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MMR again!! Baby Leo had Singles!!

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pfer · 08/11/2005 07:44

Anyone else catch the paper headlines on TV this morning. Allegedly a Doctor has told them that baby Leo had the single jabs. If this is true I feel a little decieved.

I'd always make my own choice anyway but for Tony to say quite categorically that it's safe then go for the other option.......hmmmm

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coppertop · 08/11/2005 09:38

If TB believed that the MMR wasn't suitable for all then he should have let this be reflected in the immunisation policy. Currently the only parents who have a choice about MMR vs singles are those who can afford to pay to have the singles.

spagblog · 08/11/2005 09:39

LOL!

I thought it read that Leo had shingles, poor littl lad!

pfer · 08/11/2005 09:42

coppertop - we can't really afford to have the singles but am not prepared to leave ds2 unprotected. Surely it'd be better if the NHS offerer parents a choice - it is a free country after all (more than a slight hint of sarcasm)..

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Furball · 08/11/2005 09:57

Yes but don't forget we are not responsible enough to get our children to 3 different appointments!

LadySherlockofLGJ · 08/11/2005 10:04

All we wanted was a choice, we pay our taxes, we uphold the law, we are raising tomorrows citizens and we should have had a choice.

QED

Socci · 08/11/2005 11:00

Message withdrawn

HRHQoQ · 08/11/2005 11:03

why decieved - he never said whether he gave MMR or not - did he???

HRHQoQ · 08/11/2005 11:05

I reckon it was Mrs Blair that pushed for it - I think she wears the trousers in that household - he's probably embarassed that his wife makes the important decisions and so doesn't want people to know

hunkermunker · 08/11/2005 11:07

No, he didn't deceive.

But he's a policymaker. He should have the courage of his own fecking policies, don't you think?

Live by these rules is what he's saying. And then not doing it himself. Wanker.

Fauve · 08/11/2005 11:14

IMO The Daily Mail should run a campaign to find out what all MPs have done about giving their kids the MMR/single vaccines and compare it to their voting record on the issue. Bet it would throw up masses of anomalies. I say the Daily Mail because they have campaigned on this already, but any paper would do.

pfer · 08/11/2005 11:20

hunkermunker

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Harrizeb · 08/11/2005 11:28

FFS!! i am so so DS still hasn't had his MMR jab because I really don't think that it is safe for so many different reasons - and I am having to fight to get information about single jabs - the local health care profs have closed ranks and are toeing the party line that the combined jab is the best and only way to go and therefore the only information that they will provide.

This is supposed to be a democracy - what happened to freedom of choice? at the end of the day if DS ended up as one of the acceptable casualties of imms it's me that has to look after him and face the choice that they have made for me - not them!!!!!

sorry i am really really really about the total lack of options.

pfer · 08/11/2005 11:33

harrizeb - you're not on your own. i've gone on to the "jabs" website to find clinics nearby that will offer the singles. The prob is. in order to get them the whole family has to register which means we'll all come off the register of our current NHS doctors.If we wanted to go back on after the jabs we'd struggle as no Doctors are taking on new patients at the moment in our area. How crap is that. So I do have a choice but not a very good one.

I'm going to go in to see my practice nurse to talk to her to see if she can get me any info but I'm not holding out much hope.

All I can say is if it's true (and I think it is) the Tory (not a spelling mistake) Blair wants to be answering the critics pretty damned quick.

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Angeliz · 08/11/2005 11:40

My dd had singles, my second dd will have singles and i don't care what Tony Blair's choices are.
However i think it's a disgrace that he can stand and preach about how safe the MMR is to the whole country and then not use it for his own children.
I'm not at all suprised though as if Leo had had the MMR he would have said straight away i think and not let it drag on so, i always thought he'd had singles TBH!

Furball · 08/11/2005 11:48

pfer - Thats seems crazy having the whole family register with the single jabs clinic - When DS had is singles we just signed up at a JABS reccommended clinic and that was that, they even gave us documents to give to our GP to say that he'd had them. - Where abouts are you?

pfer · 08/11/2005 11:56

Furball, I'm in Lincs, I think it's just that clinic, but it's the closest one and that's an hour away. I'm going to 'shop around' a bit more before I go ahead anyway.

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Tinker · 08/11/2005 11:59

Agree with what Soupy says.

pfer · 08/11/2005 12:03

So you wouldn't care say, if the politicians knew there were risks, no matter how small, that some children may develope autism / chrones disease or whatever, and they forgot to mention it to the general public and even went so far as to say that it's perfectly safe? If it is perfectly safe for all then surely Leo would have had it?

Anyway, I don't think it's the jabs that are the underlying issue. It's that TB isn't practising what he's preaching and in his position he really should be shouldn't he? Or maybe as we all know that politicians have a tendancy to bend the truth then it's OK for them to do it?

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dinosaur · 08/11/2005 12:11

There were some interesting points made about the MMR vaccine in these letters to the Guardian yesterday.

dinosaur · 08/11/2005 12:15

I agree with Angeliz - I always thought their silence spoke volumes!

pfer · 08/11/2005 12:16

Dinosaur very interesting. I had mumps and rubella as a kid and hardly noticed also it's documented that cases of serious illness or death relating to measles dropped by 95% BEFORE the introduction of any vaccines at all, purely because we now have better diets and general health. So surely to say the MMR is better than the singles is a bit silly anyway? Why of why can't we have a choice (free)?

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Bozza · 08/11/2005 12:17

I misread the title of this thread that Baby Leo had shingles and was thinking mmm a bit ununusual in one so young.

dinosaur · 08/11/2005 12:19

pfer, I do agree. I had measles also, as just about all kids did in the 60s. Rubella is very serious if pregnant women catch it, though. Which is one reason why I have eventually had my older two boys MMR'd.

stripey · 08/11/2005 13:07

If it is true then I think it is dispicable. Blair decided to de-licence single jabs in the UK so they would no longer be available to anyone who wanted a choice and then gets them for his own child. I can't stand the man.

Did get single measles for my boys but you have to agree to using unlicenced products in the UK which nearly put me off.

noddyholder · 08/11/2005 13:14

I think it is shocking that they are not prepared to vaccinate their own son with the very thing they are telling the rest of us is safe.Agree their business is their business etc but this is serious.

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