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**TAMOXIFEN**the 6th

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MaryAnnSingleton · 21/10/2010 13:14

here we go !

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KurriKurri · 28/10/2010 22:57

Lovely to see you Haggis, I'm really pleased you found the thread helpful, I remember what a tough time you were having during your chemo, and it is so good to see you recovered and moving on with life Smile - It would be lovely if you could pop in every so often and let us know how you are doing - all the very best xx

MaryAnnSingleton · 29/10/2010 07:57

hi haggis - very lovely to see you and so happy you are moving on,though it's always nice to hear from you Smile

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KurriKurri · 29/10/2010 12:16

Hi MAS - I think a ceremony to mark the end of your counselling and the sense of resolution, is a great idea. Do you have anything in mind? - Sometimes going to a particular favourite place, and having some contemplation time fits the bill, but you will know what feels right for you.

I'm sure you counsellor will very much appreciate a card, as far as a donation is concerned - I don't think you should feel obligated, but if you would like to make one then I'm sure that would be appreciated too.

How do you feel now it is coming to an end, - has it helped you work through your grief and other issues? - I do hope it has brought more peace of mind, it was a brave step to take Smile

I hope your niece is continuing to recover well - she was out of hospital very quickly! - but is probably much more comfortable and at ease at home.

MaryAnnSingleton · 29/10/2010 16:04

I will definitely make a card- and have no real idea about how to do a ceremony or what I'd like to do- maybe I should revisit our childhood places ? Coincidentally it will be the anniversary of my brother's death on 15th Nov..so it might be a good time to be winding things up.
I am finding it impossible to write anything down- I feel it's too forced somehow.
My counsellor lent me a book of readings/pieces about the stages of grieving (I think i've probably mentioned it before) -will have a think. Am ready to come to the end I think and I do think it has helped. I'm hoping the mindfulness will add to it all Grin
Niece is very excited as her dh has bought her and her sister Take That tickets ! Think she will feel more comfortable at home - I rather think the hospital needed the bed !
How are you today ? I do appreciate your posts about all this btw-thanks so much Smile

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KurriKurri · 29/10/2010 16:41

I am fine thanksSmile, trying to tidy up a a bit in the house - saw a horrible big rat in the garden yesterday Shock- the dog nearly got it, but I think she would have come off worst, - it was a whopper. -The hazards of living next to a field.

Take That tickets sound like just the thing to aid recovery - lovely she has something to look forward to.

Thank you for the kind comment about my posts - I lost my brother when I was 25, and although, of course,everyone's grief is different,I know that losing a sibling can be an especially hard thing to come to terms with. I did write everything down one day, when I was going through a bad patch and missing him very much, but I have never been able to look at what I wrote since, although I kept it. But I think it did help a bit - had to be when the time was right though. So don't feel any pressure about what you should or shouldn't do - just go with what feels right for you.Smile

It will be nice when your DS and DH are back, on Sunday, but lovely for your MIL to have seen them both.

I'm wondering what to cook for DS and his GF, on Sunday - they usually go to her Mum and stepfather for a sunday roast. But DH and I don't eat meat, so maybe a big veggie lasagne and salads.

MaryAnnSingleton · 29/10/2010 17:18

veg lasagne sounds yum...my mum used to make that filo and feta and spinach thing,which I have a real longing for ! Dh and ds are having a Sunday lunch dinner tonight at MILs - dh will cook it -then they are off to lunch at the nicest pub in Notts. - always brilliant food.
Eek about the rat !! I remember one of our dogs chasing a big one in our garden - scary.
I think it must be awful to lose a sibling when you are both grown up - you must have had all that time to know one another and be close - I had my brother for ten years and have to grab every smidgeon of memory - I do know that we were close and he looked after me,even though he was younger- I piece all these memories together. At the time he died we (I) didn't grieve because I didn't know how to/was afraid to/because my family just carried on as normal and I cannot get to those feelings very easily..
Must go and do some work before meditation xx

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MaryAnnSingleton · 29/10/2010 17:18

they are having lunch tomorrow, not straight after their sunday lunch dinner - even my bopys aren't that greedy Grin

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MaryAnnSingleton · 29/10/2010 17:19

gah ! boys obviously

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MaryAnnSingleton · 29/10/2010 17:21

meant to add- went to pick up my tamoxifen prescription and it was a different brand - went to the other Boots in town (we have 2 for some reason) and asked which brand they stocked and they had the Wockhardt. The pharmacist in the first Boots said that if I asked my gp to prescribe Wockhardt on the presc. then the chemist must give me that...

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sandripples · 29/10/2010 19:26

Just a quick hello because I'm an addict because we're just back from Tenerife. Have had a quick look through your posts - hooray for Cupcaked finishing rads! Don't worry if you get a bit more tired before you go up again though. KK - glad your op is to be done so soon as then you'll be able to relax about it! Though I can understand the eek!

MAS - well done on completing the couselling, even though its been tough for you.

My energy held up well while we were away. Will post more of a report tomorrow. Meanwhile I hope everyone is doing well.

KurriKurri · 29/10/2010 19:38

Hi SR - hope you had a lovely holiday, - look forward to hearing all about itSmile

MAS I didn't know you could specify which brand you have. I have Wockhardt usually, but the last few times have had a couple of different brands, and some of them do have slightly different ingredients (not the main one obviously, but the sort of minor additions to the tablet). I don't understand why the same chemist will suddenly go to a different brand and then go back?

MaryAnnSingleton · 29/10/2010 21:35

welcome back SR - looking forward to holiday details Smile
KK - I didn't know that either- I always ask what brand they have before handing over my prescription and so far they've always had Wockhardt -when i've asked before they say they have whatever they get sent...I'd just prefer to stick with what I've been having -don't want to change anything as it's all quite bearable for me so far

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Cakesandale · 30/10/2010 13:49

Hello all! Back from hols and catching up with you all. Thanks for the new thread, MAS.

My money's on a ceremony too. It needn't be a lot, but just something private and meaningful to mark how far you have come, and send you off on a new path.

Yay for whatlooks like a positive outcome for your niece.

Got to work....

MaryAnnSingleton · 30/10/2010 22:07

ceremony seems best to me -need to think properly about it - thanks Smile Fab to have you back Cakes x

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reallywoundup · 30/10/2010 23:39

We own a horse...... Well to be precise, the grandparents own a horse intended for the use of my children ( and a spare one for me lol!!)
we went to the local horse sale- it's a bit of a spectacular, yearly sale of welsh cobs, ponies and assorted odds and sods, thought the kids would enjoy it etc.... They did, but then I left them with the gp's and went for lunch with SIL- big mistake!! On my return they were loading a section d chestnut welsh cob into their great uncles horse box, along with a black beast (for me!) and an Arab cross that they had intended to buy!
WTF!! Lesson learnt, never leave old people in charge of children and chequebooks!
So our new additions are called dynamite (real name is fflur ffrefyn) and shadow, we are now a horsey family apparently!

KurriKurri · 31/10/2010 00:43

Welcome back Cakes, hope you had a good holidaySmile

RWU - we take our eyes off you for 5 minutes and you are one of the horsey setGrin seriously - how exciting, what fun for the children (and you of course).

Goodness it's late - I need to get off to bed!

MaryAnnSingleton · 31/10/2010 09:03

oh RWU ! whtever next ? you'll joining the pony club mums in a barbour and headscarf next Grin
I longed for a pony as a child....bit daft in west London (though my friend Louise had one,stabled just out of town )

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sandripples · 31/10/2010 10:16

Fancy inadvertantly buying a horse - you need to be more careful RWU - but it sounds very exciting. Do you know -um- know anything about horses?

Haggis- in case you're reading this, great to hear how far you've come and best wishes.

MAS - hope all is well with everything on your side - your niece, Celeste and yourself emerging from the counselling.

KK - I have rather achey legs too - am wondering if its the Arimidex. I also think I need to lose weight to reduce strain on my joints, and fairly soon I won't have much excuse not to try as my energy is recovering, although not 100% yet. Sore knees make it difficult to garden which could be annoying.

Anyway, Tenerife is a strange place. We stayed in the North and thank goodness as the South end looked completely horrendous when we made a short visit. I have never seen anywehere so tacky and unattractive.

Best bit was definitely the trip up Mount Teide which was fantastic - even my DS though it was 'epic'. Its an unspolit, wild volcanic landscape and I'd never seem such before. You drive up through misty pine forests then emerge into bright sunny lava fields of chaotic rocks and sand and brightly coloured rocks - very little vegetation - really fascinating to see the huge crater and you feel as though you're on Mars!

Whale watching was also nice - small whales but very close. And I had my first swim for 10 months which was lovely. In the sea.

DS had his 2nd diving lesson and is getting quite keen so am thinking about a future trip where he could do 3-4 day course and DH and I could amuse ourselves.

The island has been very spolied all round the coast apart from a few areas. As soon as you go up into the mountains its lovely. but the planners for the coast need to knock a lot down and start again really! IMO its worse than Mallorca which has lots of pretty bits. I wouldn't go there again but the holiday marked the end of a chapter for us and I'm glad we went. (It was a bit too hot for me - esp at night as no AC. Very pleasant in the morning and from about 4pm though)

We saw lots of exotic plants and trees - both generally around the North of the island and also in the Botanic gardens. LOvely buttress root trees and also giant figs with enormous roots that drop down from branches and root down making complicated structures. We tried to do a longish walk in one of many deep gorges but when we arrived it was closed due to rock falls, which was disappointing. Nice restaurant there for lunch though.

So now its back to work on Tuesday, so I'm trying to tidy the house up a bit this w/e. Had about 6 loads of washing to do but am reaching the end!

sandripples · 31/10/2010 10:18

BTW, my armpit muscles still pretty stiff after rads. Am doing the tedious exercises but how long did this stiffness continue for others who had rads? I think swimming prob very good for it so will take up my weekly session again now that my immunity should be OK.

Cakesandale · 31/10/2010 14:32

Flipping heck RWU, not just one, but 2 horses. Good God.

i hope you know a bit about horses, they have always struck me as rather a lot of work: great to have though!

SR's put me right off Tenerife. Should have known really, as DH's aunt loves it, and she is known for her love of tat and all things cheesy.

Stiffness in the armpit lasts a long time, and i still find i get a tendency towards it if I don't exercise (Iam 11 months after my last rads session). I do think swimming is one of the best things.

MAS - hope poor little Celeste is dong OK, I agree with KK they pick things up so easily. But like kids they do seem to pick up quickly again. If things are going in the top, and coming out the bottom, and she is bouncing, it's probably not too bad.

DD was absolutely made up on holiday - she has long wanted a dog and we just don't have the time for one. We went into a pub, where they had a new chihuahua puppy. When we returned 3 days later the woman who ran the pub offered to lend her to dd for the day. She didn't know us from Adam! So dd took her proudly all around Tintagel, bought her a teddy, and then took her safely back home -totally knackered. It was a day dd will always remember. Chihuahuas are not really my thing, but she was very sweet, pretty feisty, and attracted a LOT of attention (being only about the size of a squirrel).

sandripples · 31/10/2010 15:54

Cakes- what a lovely treat for your DD. People in Tenerife seemed mad about small dogs and we saw a few chihuahas!

Yeah, I think unless you have to go on hols out of season and you really want a bit of sunshine, then there are lots of nicer places! I wanted to be sure of good weather- and was a bit overhot at times, as I said! It was nice coming back to UK autumn - Tintagel; must have been lovely.

BUT I am very glad to have visited the volcano, as it was fab. I also suspect that if you're children free, it would be good to get a persoanl walking guide for a day or two to take you to a few out of the way places. Some people clearly manage to discover an off-the-beaten-track Tenerife but we only saw a little of this.

Cakesandale · 31/10/2010 16:14

Hard to do off the beaten track things with kids -they aren't very keen, are they? Diving lessons, gardens and volcanoes sound nice though. Good luck on Tuesday. Take it steady.
xx

KurriKurri · 31/10/2010 17:35

Good luck for work next week SR, I'm sure you will be fine, - and the holiday will have been a great chance to relax before you restart.
The volcano sounds amazing, as does swimming in the sea - well done - was the water very cold or is it still fairly warm there?

Regarding armpit stiffness - also still get it if I don't exercise, and even if I do, I find it hard to carry a heavy shopping bag on that side, and it's achy if I over do it (and in the shoulder) - my rads finished in May last year. I think it is quite a long term thing unfortunately, but it is better now than it was a year ago - so going in the right direction.

Cakes - how lovely for DD to borrow a puppySmile my niece (who I visited while up in Scotland) has a chihuahua, it is a fiesty little thing as well, it is tiny - I always worry I'm going to sit on it or something dreadful! Your holiday sounds lovely, I've never been to Cornwall, but would love to go.

I went to a lunch do yesterday - an anniversary for a group I belong to. It was really nice, yummy buffet, and was able to catch up with friends. (My friend who moved to Scotland a while ago flew down for the lunch, so lovely to see herSmile)

Today we had DS and his DP over for lunch, which was fun, they brought me a lovely plant, and also a rather nice cheesecake (new diet starts tomorrowGrin).

I've just said to the dog 'it's not time for your tea yet' - because she was fussing round, then remembered the poor little thing doesn't understand the clocks have changed!

Hope everyone has had a good weekend. I've got to be at the hospital for 9a.m. tomorrow for my pre-op. - oh the joysGrin

MaryAnnSingleton · 01/11/2010 07:32

volcano sounds good SR but don't like the sounds of tacky bits- hope you feel you've marked the end of stuff though - I think any break is a good thing. Will think of you especially on Tuesday going back to work Smile
How lovely that dd got to mind the chihuahua Cakes !!
My boys are back from MIL and had a nice time, but i did miss them- it felt very odd to be here on my own,though Celeste was company of course (but short on conversation)
Dh now fretting that he was speeding on the M3, not realising that the beginning after the M25 is 50...
And the tumble dryer has finally died - will have to replace (though have been severely lectured by friend and SIL)
Celeste much better too- she was fine in herself,so not too worried and she seemed to like taking her medicine !
Niece is recovering nicely at home, being looked after very well,but a bit fed up with being housebound.
Breast clinic on Wednesday to see consultant.
Have a good week everyone Smile

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Cakesandale · 01/11/2010 09:41

God we're all back at the hospital, again, aren't we? (I have my check up next week).

Animals and kids don't get the time change, do they? DD never believes in the 'extra hour in bed' thing Angry - i was up with the lark on Sunday. NOT good, especially as a very drunk reveller appeared in our very quiet little Close during Saturday night and proceeded to cry, scream and F and blind, then throw up all over the turning circle at the end. It took us hours to get back to sleep after the police moved her and her highly suspicious male friend on...God knows what he was doing skulking around the old peoples' bungalows.

Good luck KK for pre-op, and MAS for check up, of course

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