What will Labour do early?

[Davidchecksall]

We can safely assume that Labour will form the next Government. Many of their proposed policies will take a long time to show a difference. They want to appoint many more teachers, but it will take time to develop ways of retaining the ones we have and enticing back those who recently resigned. etc. Recruiting new teachers will take years.
They can impose the VAT on some schools quickly,
Making it easier to change 'gender' or 'sex' can happen quite quickly.
What do you think they will do to show they mean to make changes?

See this is what is strange. On another thread I was repeatedly told by numerous posters that anyone who earns over 34K is wealthy and as 34K is the median wage then surely that follows that no-one earning over that should need state benefits or indeed a free breakfast for their kids.

I don’t understand the breakfast club one, it’s the same with universal infant free school meals I don’t think they should be provided to all either. They are things would be nice extras if the rest of public services were running well but not priorities

If you let them get away with appointing too many short term politicians there rather than the real checks and balances we need, we are all screwed.

The Tories have been doing that for the last 14 years - you just haven’t noticed or chosen to look the other way.

I think what @Badgertime means is that single parents in particular have it hard as it is just one income and we do not tax household income in this country! Even child benefit thresholds were completely unfair on single parents. I would like our laws changed so that no men can abdicate their financial responsibilities towards any children they have fathered. DNA test being enough. Other countries go after them properly. The state should not have to pick that tab up.

@blossomtoes - I dislike the Tories, but I value immensely having a Second Chamber like the House of Lords.

So do I but, as you pointed out, it’s of little value if the government of the day stuffs it with its cronies. It’s just another way the Tories have salted the soil for an incoming government of a different colour.

Did you not notice Labour doing exactly the same for the 13 years prior to that??

Just two cheeks of the same arse!

Actually I didn’t. They awarded fewer peerages than the Tory governments since 2010 and neither Blair nor Brown had resignation honours lists. Sunak’s created over 50 in less than two years.

I wonder how many of those 50 are friends and family.

As they always do

Labour are against self-ID, as are a significant majority of their members. What makes you think that they’d introduce it at all, let alone as a priority?

Depends how big their majority is and how much shit they're dealing with.

Apparently Sue Grey has put together a 'shit list'. Things that may go tits up after the Tories leave office that Labour will have to deal with. This includes

• the possible collapse of Thames Water
• one or more universities becoming insolvent
• more councils declaring bankruptcy
• the criminal justice system completely grinding to a halt as prison over crowding becomes untenable
• the NHS falling into total crisis this winter as the new restrictions on immigration start to take their toll on recruitment into the care sector: more bed blocking, longer waiting lists, staff completely burned out and leaving in droves.

And of course the Tories - having created these disasters through 14 years of public sector mismanagement and underfunding will behave like absolute arseholes in parliament to stop Labour making any progress with legislation to address major problems in the public sector.

Check the list above, and note how many GC on this thread are still wittering on about transgender people.

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www.ft.com/content/b95976ff-d861-4baf-a168-fd262b4e2f95

They didn’t last time they were in power.

@ByJoyousAquaOtter Keir Starmer not emphatic about adopting Cass Report. He has not supported Rosie Duffield. The mob still hounding her. NHS Trade Unions are supporting the Self ID, Pride and not arguing for male free nursing and personal care for women on wards.
David Lamy still active for TWAW etc.
I think there could be targeted pressure for change soon after the election.

They need to agree teachers pay. Schools are having to prepare budgets with no idea what they need to include in them. Government can’t do it now as an election has been called. Think it is the same position for nurses. Sunak has very cleverly dodged having to do this.

Yes. He’s very cleverly managed to lose an election. (We hope)

They'll need to fill the 2,000 vacancies they already have for teachers before they begin recruiting for the 6.500 new ones promised.
Budget expected in September. I would expect more clarity then, including vat on school fees, changes in rates, increase in capital gains tax.

Absolutely agree with this. People have got to get used to paying for their own children. There's been a weird switch since Covid to people seemingly assuming the Government will pick up the tab
We need to look at how on earth we have got into the situation where parents expect the government to pay them to feed their own children as a matter of course.
And the howls of protest about cuts when anything which was always going to be a short-term measure is removed (such as UC uplift or Household Support Fund).
The Goverment is not a substitute parent.

@Katypp

Finland, Sweden, Estonia, London, Scotland, 6 American states & Brazil provide free meals for all primary school children.

But apparently England (apart from London) just can't and shouldn't do this, even when there are proven benefits & economies by having a universal programme?

urbanhealth.org.uk/insights/reports/expanding-free-school-meals-a-cost-benefit-analysis

@izimbra my understanding is that Finland provide free meals, but there is very little menu choice.

My experience of English Primary school parents is uproar if jacket potatoes are taken off the menu, why do we have to have things like curry as my child wouldn't eat that, the only fish they can eat are fish fingers, why do they provide salad my child won't eat that etc etc.

Many parents still provide pack lunches or demand sandwiches are part of the options.

To offer free school meals really worthwhile parental attitude in this country needs to change

mine is autistic so when he was in mainstream we couldn’t benefit from universal free infant school meals as he couldn’t manage the noise in the dining room so I still had to send a pack lunch so he could eat in the classroom. I’m not saying it’s not beneficial but the education system particularly Sen is in such a dire state at the minute I just don’t think it should be the priority to give to all.

DecafFox

Well said. My biggest concern with Labour is that they do all these short term plaster/quick fix policies for show with no consideration for longer term implications of every system (education, etc) and the economy.

And that is exactly the problem. Labour quite rightly want to spend money in various areas immediately (health, education). The problem is raising that money. And also causing damage by slapping a quick policy on. The damage to education is going to be terrible. I thank goodness my dc are too old to be impacted.

I think one of things they might consider within first 12 months is trying to join membership of Pan-Euro Mediterranean Convention

The PEM convention is not the single market or customs union,… it involves EU, EFTA, Turkey, I think manufacturers to ask for such a change pretty soon, if there’s a change of Government as removes some of Brexit red tape & might reduce costs of importing goods./parts.

There is a good article by Faisal Islam on this on the internet, i think some of more moderate Tories liked idea but shot down by right wing cabinet members and Sunak.