What will Labour do early?

[Davidchecksall]

We can safely assume that Labour will form the next Government. Many of their proposed policies will take a long time to show a difference. They want to appoint many more teachers, but it will take time to develop ways of retaining the ones we have and enticing back those who recently resigned. etc. Recruiting new teachers will take years.
They can impose the VAT on some schools quickly,
Making it easier to change 'gender' or 'sex' can happen quite quickly.
What do you think they will do to show they mean to make changes?

VAT on private schools
Announcement of rebanding of council tax
Big sigh and sad faces saying it's much worse than we thought and any tax other than income and ni will rise.

Soon after: a trip to France to discuss those nasty gangs over tea and cakes and with an agreement the French will deploy a couple of extra border force police provided they are given zillions of pounds which Labour will declare a step forward.

@Badgertime - if you are really struggling then I agree there should be a way of you qualifying. But if you multiply £100 per month by ALL the DCs in state primary how much will it cost?

Ours by the way is £6 for those who pay, in percentage terms if we take what schools are currently being funded for per pupil, is a huge amount added to the school funding per child. And would never ever be covered by private school parents if you calculate the maths. Because some of those kids will definitely leave.

Unless you expect your school to provide it for £1 per child? Ours are currently using the breakfast club and after school club to fund other essential stuff in school! If you don’t give them the actual cost and a profit they will lose out!

You're really not making much sense. Why are you going on about the 93pc of children in state schools and free breakfast clubs? It's about so much more than that. Talk about taking things out of context in a feeble attempt to score a point.

That's not even what I said. I'm thinking it's best not to engage with someone who isn't able to read the posts properly.

Re breakfast clubs. We live in a very deprived area and breakfast club at our primary is free for all. However, it’s definitely not the kids in extreme poverty who use it. I’m not sure how many MNers have lived amongst that level of social deprivation… but it’s well documented that those kids don’t make it to even the free clubs. The country is in serious trouble, Labour has the mother of all tasks to unpick this shitshow

I wish that state schools could charge parents more for services, at least for those parents who can pay. In our town there's a choice between state schools which are desperately underfunded and terrible, and private schools which cost a bomb, drive the kids relentlessly, and give them a weird private school accent and attitude.

I would be really glad to pay good money for a normal state school that would just compentently educate my child. It's beyong me why they can't charge e.g. £1k a term to parents who can afford it.

Agree. In Australia I believe parents can pay optional fees, or at least that used to be the case.

Although there is something about a decent education (as well as health care) being free at point of service given we are essentially funding it with our taxes. That’s the whole point. It’s the wild mismanagement of those that’s the issue.

When my DC was in primary school, the teachers were spending their entire equipment budget for the year on prit stick. And this was so they could stick the kids' worksheets into books to make them look nice for ofsted. It was bonkers that their miniscule budget was entirely spent on placating ofsted.

I kept trying to give them presents of classroom equipment to help out a bit. I did give money once but it was spent on ridiculously expensive playground equipment that was no use.

I'm home ed now.

Getting back to my OP. . . . .
No one seems worried that Labour might be rushed into legislation about Self ID or TWAW.
I think they might want to try and placate the activists, tick the box and then get on with man stuff.
BTW, did you see that Rosie Duffield has had to stop attending hustings because of threats and trolling? (Times Today)

Why would anyone worry about something that’s not in their manifesto, has never been mentioned during the campaign and when they’ve got a farmyard full of shit to shovel before they even consider a niche issue?

It’s not a niche issue if they try and water down the House of Lords though is. I don’t want trendy politicians desperate for votes falling for every woke crap going. These things need to be considered carefully from every angle over a long time period.

Well said. My biggest concern with Labour is that they do all these short term plaster/quick fix policies for show with no consideration for longer term implications of every system (education, etc) and the economy.

Recruiting teachers is faster to achieve than recruiting nurses and doctors. A postgrad teaching qualification is a year. A nurse is 3 years, doctors and dentists more. Plus time to gain experience for all. But the next government should still train vastly more of all these, even the BMA/GPs would rather keep numbers the same and pay existing doctors 35% more.

They won’t be desperate for votes, will they? What’s the relevance of the HoL anyway?

I hope they look at crime and antisocial behaviour very quickly; we should all be concerned at knife crime and the predation of children by criminal adults. A big focus on prosecutions for domestic violence would also be welcome.

From Google…

“The Labour leader had initially vowed to abolish the House of Lords and replace it with an elected second chamber. But that has been watered down to a long-term ambition. Labour's manifesto now calls for a consultation on replacing the House of Lords with a "more representative" body.”

The threat to get rid of the HL has been brewing for a long time. The HL tend to be very measured and lots of experts from all walks of life. Including people who actually understand the legal system properly.

All of the systems in our country work carefully together in a balanced way for a reason. To keep the Executive in check. The HL is a key part of that. If you let them get away with appointing too many short term politicians there rather than the real checks and balances we need, we are all screwed.

Netanyahu is kept in power by the Knesset, There is no second chamber. That is why the power of the Judges had to be reduced so there are no checks and balances on the President.

I don't think that is very high on many people's agenda of what needs doing outside of some boards on MN I know people aren't bringing it up on the door round here.

Nothing I hope and take at least a few months to get a proper understanding of the situation.

No government has ever only introduced things that were in their manifesto. They ALWAYS add extras, some of which have been pretty huge. Just the same way as they often "forget" things that were in their manifestos that don't get enacted. A manifesto is only ever a general guide as to what they may do.

I think they'll focus on the big things that need fixing. The manifesto puts growth first so legislation to deliver that (even if slow burn the sooner it gets started the better). The energy policy is part of that, investment to build renewables will create jobs.

Then alongside that do what they can to improve public services, though will be limited by lack of funds given the commitment to keep the main taxes as they are.

Indeed and that is blantly obvious to even those who don't really follow politics!!

It is a basic knowledge that a gov manifesto is on the whole, total BS!!

Sadly, some people will just have blinkered views just because they are voting for X.!!!

I think self ID and House of Lords will be v low on the list. Didn't Starmer as good as say that whilst he wants to reform the lords there are more urgent things to focus on?

How are they going to do that quickly then? You are living in cloud cookoo land

Not much.

Parliament will open, get a very short run after the State Opening and then go into summer recess. We'll get the announcements as to what the priorities will be as part of the King's Speech in the State Opening. There's also quite a bit of parliamentary admin to be done at the start of the new session.

Nothing major on the financial front (e.g. changes on VAT to public schools) is likely occur before the Chancellor's Autumn Statement.

As to Manifesto pledges... well there were 41 in the 2019 Conservative Manifesto, they've met one, partially met another, and the other 39 have been missed.