Conservative Party Manifesto - for women and girls

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Absolutely fantastic. The cynical me asks "why haven't they done this before?" And yea, they've just brought it out now. But it has been over 2 years in the making and the result of some very hard work behind the scenes.

@MNHQ please don't move this to the Feminist Board, it's very relevant here as it forms a part of the Conservative Party manifesto

This.

Too little too late..I don't trust Tories anymore and nothing will change my mind at this stage

The Tories failed us on this as they failed us on most things. They thought that bleating but Labour... was adequate substitute for running the country.🙈

Ah well, they're toast now so their witless witterings are utterly meaningless.🤷‍♀️

Yes, spot on, what have the Conservatives done too decrease wealth inequality- I would imagine poverty is not a great equaliser for women- money gives you choices and you don’t have many of them when you are poor.

Who cares more about women? The party producing some meaningless cant in its manifesto or the party that plans to bring rapists to justice? I suppose there are some people so dedicated to the Tory cause they’ll cling to any excuse for doing so.

Do we think But Jeremy Corbyn is pleased or disappointed that he has been usurped?

How exactly do you think Labour will bring rapists to justice?

They might perhaps fund the criminal justice system properly, rather than consistently cutting it?

Radical, I know, but maybe?

Oh dear OP, it looks like you're actually dumb enough to fall for the "look at the shiny toy" approach.

The Tories do not give two shits about you, or your daughters

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scunthorpe-tories-b2315032.html

With what? The magic money tree?

How do they propose to fund this?

And once these rapists have been convicted, how many of them will be housed in women's prisons?

Are you suggesting that the current situation whereby rape has essentially been decriminalised is better? Or that most rapists are trans women?

Exactly. When you have the justice system on its knees, local services cut to ribbons, schools and hospitals falling apart and the country servicing trillion pounds worth of debt, who thinks tax cuts for the wealthy are a good idea? It's like your house falling down, so instead of spending money on fixing the roof, going out and buying a new car to live in.

No, I asked you how they proposed to fund this and whether they will still stick to their policy of putting male rapists who claim to have pink gender identities in women's prisons.

According to the government there is sufficient money to cut National Insurance, and surely the government would know, so perhaps instead of that, it could be used to fund vital public services that we all rely on?

In the interests of factual accuracy I would like to point out that rape as defined by the law in England and Wales (probably also Scotland, but I have not checked) means that a rapist must be male.

If the Tories can find the money for 150 judges to implement their Rwanda policy it’s not a stretch to use those judges for rape trials. And your disingenuity around trans women in prisons doesn’t wash. Your argument relies on the presumption that a substantive proportion of unconvicted rapists are trans women and it’s safer to leave them on the streets than lock them up.

I can only conclude that safety for women isn’t a strong motivator for voting Tory.

They must have a penis.

Labour don't believe having a penis necessarily means you are male.

No, my argument relies on the factual observation that literally any man can now say, "I identify as a woman."

It should be common sense that how someone claims to identify should have absolutely no bearing on which prison they go to, but apparently it isn't.

The Tories don't need to find money for anything because they'll be in opposition this time next month.

The Tories don't need to find money for anything because they'll be in opposition this time next month.

You asked where the money would come from. The Tories aren’t going to take it with them - although I wouldn’t put it past them to try.

Its surely not so much that Labour don't believe that, but that Labour believe in the rule of law, and that is what the law currently says.

We know that Sunak doesn't believe in the rule of law as evidenced several times by his lawbreaking.

I think the absolute obsession with gender stuff comes from relatively privileged voters who don’t have to worry about the CoL crisis. If you can’t feed your kids why worry about the apocryphal trans person in the loo beyond owt else. I’m not saying there isn’t an issue but it’s not the thing that determines my vote above everything else.

Bollocks. You can be concerned about multiple things at the same time, it isn't even hard. Maybe, just maybe, they want to be able to feed their children AND make sure that their daughters aren't losing out on medals to boys, having mixed-sex sleepovers with Guides, and undressing in front of grown men.

If he was trying to be technically legally correct, the vast majority of transwomen are still legally male, so he should be able to call them men. But he can't, because it's an ideological position not a legal one.

Just maybe being gender critical and taking three million children out of poverty are incompatible because you seem to think that only the party that created all that poverty supports your GC views. And they’re clearly more important to you than millions of children in destitution. Those children aren’t winning medals or going to Guides so it’s very much a middle class luxury view.