Conservative Party Manifesto - for women and girls

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Absolutely fantastic. The cynical me asks "why haven't they done this before?" And yea, they've just brought it out now. But it has been over 2 years in the making and the result of some very hard work behind the scenes.

@MNHQ please don't move this to the Feminist Board, it's very relevant here as it forms a part of the Conservative Party manifesto

Ummm this is.fear mongering and an absolute non-issue. What circumstance has your daughter had to undress in front a trans person?
And the hulking big 17 yr old taking medals. I like how you added the hulking, and big and 17 yr old to really ratchet up the fear.
Our daughters have a far bigger problem with online sexual harassment and abuse. That is what you should be worrying about.

It's not for me as a disabled woman.

It's not meaningless. The definition of sex in the equality act has been clarified by a court case to mean legal sex and not biological sex. This Tory proposal will override that and protect single sex spaces. Labour plan not only to leave the act as is, but also to make it far easier to change legal sex.

Trans people aren't a vulnerable group in the UK. They have more backing than any other group.

Why are Labour not supporting actual vulnerable groups, such as female prisoners, rape survivors who want single sex care, disabled women, or autistic teenagers?

I'm all for women being protected. But If this what you take from the manifesto? I feel like giving in. I don't because I know most people understand that where the 12 billion they will save from welfare reform will result n poor people being poorer

how is the 12bilbillion going to come from, otherwise? Our of the pockets of those who are already poor, that's where.

But you carry on being focused on only one issue. And side poor people, who seem, to me, to be mostly women.

I don't like the Tories but this is a good policy. I'd very much like the Labour Party to adopt this. Women's rights are incredibly important and have been damaged, diminished and actively removed over the last few years. Thank heavens for the Cass Review which has made the facts clear, though some activists still seem to think it's ok to sterilise young girls just because they are autistic and emotionally damaged. But we still need clarity on women's rights and Labour aren't doing that. Their own Labour Women's Declaration has issued some excellent statements but Labour doesn't listen. Maybe this will prompt a response.

I think the absolute obsession with gender stuff comes from relatively privileged voters who don’t have to worry about the CoL crisis. If you can’t feed your kids why worry about the apocryphal trans person in the loo beyond owt else. I’m not saying there isn’t an issue but it’s not the thing that determines my vote above everything else.

100000% this.
Who do you think austerity has hit hardest op?? Women.
I’ll believe they care about women when they overhaul the CMS.

If you believe that Labour will radically improve all those other things then yes it is a difficult decision. I personally don't think the current Labour Party will make big enough differences to things like cost of living, that are largely global in nature anyway. Uniquely, the gender issue doesn't require billions to solve, it doesn't need funds to be diverted from some other vital service. There is just a cost free choice between embedding sexist, homophobic, child harming, cult-like views further into our laws, or just not doing that.

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Because not everyone agrees with you! The majority of the country doesn't agree with you.
The Conservative Party have been disastrous for women. Their ideological' austerity policies disproportionately affected women.

Totally agree!

Labour wants to appeal to the younger voters they are suggesting reducing the voting age because that's where their target audience lies young people have this all consuming belief that if you wish really really hard it will happen thing is if a woman without a womb was adamant they could get pregnant people would suggest mental health support if a born man does it they are stunning and fucking brave

Goodness I hadn't realised that Liz Truss had crashed the world economy not just the UKs.

She is certainly talented.

Oddly despite working with young people for the past 20 years, I have not found any that have this belief that you describe. Do you know where I can find them?

Both Truss's reign and Brexit were IMO, pointless acts of self harm on our economy (others may disagree). Nonetheless COL is something that every country has grappled with. However you think each party will perform on the economy in future, and none of us has a crystal ball, I personally can't vote for a party whose leadership is signed up to gender ideology anymore than I could if they were all scientologists or flat earthers.

They will get an almighty shock then. The 16 and 17 year olds my DS knows have already moved on from this. He had a large group of trans/non binary mainly girls in his class in year 9 and 10. All but one has dropped it by year 11. Most of them eye roll about this as something ' older' (25+) people are obsessed with.

What do you think the majority of the country disagrees with?

That women are female people?

That we should be allowed to have single sex rape counselling without being called bigots?

That the NHS shouldn't be putting male patients on female only wards and then lying to the police about it when a female patient is raped?

That Isla Bryson and others like him shouldn't be housed in women's prisons?

That male athletes shouldn't be competing in women's sports?

That a little boy who likes playing with dolls is a little boy who likes playing with dolls, not a little girl?

That a teenage girl with body dysphoria should be offered appropriate mental health support, not hormones and a double mastectomy?

No, I think you will find most people do in fact agree with me.

The thing is, younger people are less likely to vote than older people.

The Tories understand this, which is why the triple lock on pensions has been maintained but tuition fees are now sky high.

Appealing to younger voters isn't the way to win elections.

That's not to say it's OK not to have any policies which benefit young people. But policies which benefit young people are things like tuition fees and sure start centres and child support, not gender lunacy.

Labour or left parties side with the vulnerable. This has become a tool they have been using to get those votes. They do not do much for them. What you end up with is they let people break havoc and unaccountable. Like happened in the US and some cities in Europe like Barcelona. Riots, homelessness, crime so cities become hell holes. London has been one with S Khan. They also come with stupid laws that affect negatively the hard working citizens against thuggish behaviours.

So they know what we want, only had 14 years in power and still didn't do it?

London is not a hell hole. That's nonsense.

My (mid twenties) child will vote for gender lunacy totally swallowed it hook line and sinker
My (currently 15 year old) would not can't understand what's going on why are people so confused about who/what they are he respects the right to be called he/she at will (because it doesn't effect him) respects my rule about me not being "cis" thinks the whole world has gone insane over it

Yeah right! Nothing to be worried about it. It is so safe here like in the late 90’s and with other majors. 👍💯

Some people would not=see until we are like San Francisco 🙄

No. 14 years ago very few people knew the harms of gender ideology, least of all the Tory party.
Feminists over the last ten or so years have been trying to get the message across to all political parties, and have finally managed to make one major party take notice. And to everyone's surprise it wasn't the progressive greens, libdems or even Labour who finally paid attention it was the Conservatives. While Labour called women dinosaurs, the SNP called them bigots, the Greens called them non-men, a few senior Tories actually listened to the message. They have instigated the Cass report, blocked Scottish self ID with section 35, and published draft guidance on trans issues in schools. This is real but modest progress, but sadly the momentum will likely now shift in the opposite direction under the next govt.