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General election 2024

Keir, what do you think?

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Lovepeaceunderstanding · 06/06/2024 16:04

Labour will win this General Election but I don’t think Sir Keir will be party leader a year from now because there are many amongst Labour MP’s who will want to be more radical. Who would you like to see as leader of the Labour Party a year from now and why?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/06/2024 20:00

Alfreddoeblin · 06/06/2024 19:59

@ActivePeony and Sunak, despite an education costing £100k + was a shouty braying archetypal Eton schoolboy who was regularly participating in debating club from the age of 11.
Funnily enough I listened to a phone-in the other day on 5live and 80% of the callers liked Starmer and thought Sunak was rude. Most people don’t see gotchas a la sun newspaper (and lying ones at that) as an indicator of a thoughtful intelligent politician.

He won in the polls after the one sided clash

Bymrsjeeves · 06/06/2024 20:00

pointythings · 06/06/2024 19:56

It just goes to show that there's nothing positive to say about the Tories, so posters have to resort to attacking Labour.

Keir Starmer is used to speaking in a courtroom, where people are allowed to finish making their point. And in the HoC he has frequently ripped Rishi to little shreds. Just because he was expecting his opponent to show some manners and let him speak, people on here are calling him names.

Balls to that. Yes, he didn't fight dirty enough. But I respect him more for not stooping to the same blustering bullshit level that Rishi Sunak was displaying on Tuesday.

And of course after the deputies' debate on Friday, the usual suspects will be out slating Angela Rayner for not being polite enough. Because hey, double standards.

‘It just goes to show that there's nothing positive to say about the Tories, so posters have to resort to attacking Labour.’

😂😂🤣🤣 That is is all that labour do - attack the tories.. it’s all they know how to do.

That is why Starmer found the other night so difficult. All he’s done is attack the tories, never told anyone what labour stand for. Apart from the obvious (private school vat, women with penises and erm not sure anything else?)

pointythings · 06/06/2024 20:01

@ActivePeony 'terrified owl' was pretty rude. Also pathetic.

ActivePeony · 06/06/2024 20:02

Alfreddoeblin · 06/06/2024 19:59

@ActivePeony and Sunak, despite an education costing £100k + was a shouty braying archetypal Eton schoolboy who was regularly participating in debating club from the age of 11.
Funnily enough I listened to a phone-in the other day on 5live and 80% of the callers liked Starmer and thought Sunak was rude. Most people don’t see gotchas a la sun newspaper (and lying ones at that) as an indicator of a thoughtful intelligent politician.

He went to Winchester.

Notonthestairs · 06/06/2024 20:03

Sunak lied 11 times in an hour on national television.

Then sent his ministers out lie again on his behalf.

It's all very reminiscent of Johnson's ministers being put through the wringer after Partygate and Pincher.

Even the Spectator found their lies ridiculous, the Spectator!!

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2024 20:03

Bymrsjeeves · 06/06/2024 19:54

Ah bless. Another champagne socialist. It’s embarrassing for you.

Honours rooted in the British Empire?
Sure no problemo.
But aren’t you a Socialist?
Well yes I am but but.. erm this is because erm .. because… 😂 pathetic.

Edited

Knighthoods date far further back than the British Empire. Don’t they teach history these days?

fromtheshires · 06/06/2024 20:03

IWantToBeASleepingCat · 06/06/2024 18:16

God help us.
He's not very intelligent is he?

He's a very intelligent and one of the best public prosecutors we have had and is a KC so is also highly regarded in the legal profession as well. He may be a bit 'bland' for some but he is far from unintelligent.

I think a lot of his issues will be from others in the party hamstringing him

pointythings · 06/06/2024 20:03

Bymrsjeeves · 06/06/2024 19:54

Ah bless. Another champagne socialist. It’s embarrassing for you.

Honours rooted in the British Empire?
Sure no problemo.
But aren’t you a Socialist?
Well yes I am but but.. erm this is because erm .. because… 😂 pathetic.

Edited

So many assumptions in such a short and incoherent post!

As a socialist, I have no problem with people receiving honours when they are deserved. Someone with a distinguished career in law, and specifically in human rights law, getting an'sir' - nope, no problem with that at all. Someone getting one because they've donated £££ to a political party - not so much.

I also don't have a problem with people being rich. I'd just like the gap to be smaller, say roughly the same size it was in the 60s and 70s.

Is that simple enough for you?

srailfonaidraug · 06/06/2024 20:04

Truth is, both Starmer and Sunk are headline acts in the same circus. Both labour and tories are the mark of the devil, with the former being an absolute doddle to argue in favour of by virtue of the latter being such a proven used colostomy bag salesman. Even the most myopic of muppets, as anyone who thinks Starmer is the answer to the ever-increasing problems this country faces will be seeing in the mirror in less than two years time, has no trouble making a case for the unsung failure right now.

Mark of the devil, as the greatest book ever written warns.

ActivePeony · 06/06/2024 20:05

pointythings · 06/06/2024 20:01

@ActivePeony 'terrified owl' was pretty rude. Also pathetic.

I compared him to a frightened owl yes, because that it exactly what he reminded me of - certainly not the confident, forensic barrister that we are supposed to be seeing. He did not speak well at all.

pointythings · 06/06/2024 20:07

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/06/2024 20:00

He won in the polls after the one sided clash

He actually didn't. One poll shows Sunak edging it 49/51. Another shows Starmer winning by a considerable margin. Let's keep it truthful, shall we?

Alfreddoeblin · 06/06/2024 20:08

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator Lol reform are edging ahead of your party. That’s a party with no policies beating a load of corrupt old has beens clinging desperately onto power.
The irony of accusing Labour of not being ready to govern when the Tories have achieved zilch in 14 years (apart from disastrous Brexit, wasting billions on HS2 and adding £13k onto the average household tax bill)).
The irony of suggesting Labour are Putin stooges when your own PM appointed ex KGB flunkies to the Lords and accepted 100s of thousands of pounds from them in donations.
A shouty entitled prig haranguing both opponent and moderator like a petulant school boy being somehow attractive to the voting public.
Feck me, you live in cloud cuckoo land.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/06/2024 20:09

Bymrsjeeves · 06/06/2024 20:00

‘It just goes to show that there's nothing positive to say about the Tories, so posters have to resort to attacking Labour.’

😂😂🤣🤣 That is is all that labour do - attack the tories.. it’s all they know how to do.

That is why Starmer found the other night so difficult. All he’s done is attack the tories, never told anyone what labour stand for. Apart from the obvious (private school vat, women with penises and erm not sure anything else?)

Fact!!

The socialist looked like a defeated fox in the middle of the road starring at the fast moving headlights of a HGV!!

I felt embarrassed for the socialist

pointythings · 06/06/2024 20:11

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator saying something is fact and adding two exclamation marks doesn't make it a fact.
The post debate polls do not agree with you - and they are the collated opinion of a large number of people, as opposed to the opinion of one person.

Alfreddoeblin · 06/06/2024 20:12

I think Starmer couldn’t believe how much our so called PM was showing himself up. Gobsmacked more like.
Rishi Sunak fast moving ? Yup, back to California.

LizzieSiddal · 06/06/2024 20:12

BurbageBrook · 06/06/2024 19:20

I think it's really the thickest people who need their politicians to be all "jazz hands" or to have a bombastic overbearing personality. I like how calm and measured Keir is. But I vote for parties not people anyway.

Agree. Same for Brexit.

ActivePeony · 06/06/2024 20:12

fromtheshires · 06/06/2024 20:03

He's a very intelligent and one of the best public prosecutors we have had and is a KC so is also highly regarded in the legal profession as well. He may be a bit 'bland' for some but he is far from unintelligent.

I think a lot of his issues will be from others in the party hamstringing him

Yes I think so too. Which is a shame as I think that he could have potential as a PM if he was not always looking over his shoulder.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2024 20:12

Your embarrassment was entirely unwarranted. I was embarrassed by the shouty, loutish PM whose expensive education clearly didn’t include manners or debating skills.

Bymrsjeeves · 06/06/2024 20:13

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/06/2024 20:09

Fact!!

The socialist looked like a defeated fox in the middle of the road starring at the fast moving headlights of a HGV!!

I felt embarrassed for the socialist

😂😂

Where was his armour??

StripedPiggy · 06/06/2024 20:13

Assuming he wins the expected landslide, Starmer will be the conquering hero. He will Labour leader & PM at least until the next election, which will be due in summer 2029, and probably for as long as he wants to.

Labour is not, and has never been, anything like as ruthless or fratricidal as the Tories. They just don’t do knifing their leaders, Blair was leader for 13 years & PM for 10 despite being loathed by the Left, & the disastrous invasion of Iraq. Corbyn was leader for 4.5 years, despite being completely useless, unelectable and a threat to national security.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/06/2024 20:14

Alfreddoeblin · 06/06/2024 20:08

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator Lol reform are edging ahead of your party. That’s a party with no policies beating a load of corrupt old has beens clinging desperately onto power.
The irony of accusing Labour of not being ready to govern when the Tories have achieved zilch in 14 years (apart from disastrous Brexit, wasting billions on HS2 and adding £13k onto the average household tax bill)).
The irony of suggesting Labour are Putin stooges when your own PM appointed ex KGB flunkies to the Lords and accepted 100s of thousands of pounds from them in donations.
A shouty entitled prig haranguing both opponent and moderator like a petulant school boy being somehow attractive to the voting public.
Feck me, you live in cloud cuckoo land.

Edited

LOL, funny post but the socialist Starmmer had no answers and that is a fact.

A fact that many see coming if Labour slips in via the back door with coalitions partner/s is - Good, old, Anglea Rayner won't be stating in the wings for too long as she has massive left wing support and they will see it as their only chance to have their own way,

ActivePeony · 06/06/2024 20:15

LizzieSiddal · 06/06/2024 20:12

Agree. Same for Brexit.

Yes all Brexit voters are thick twats and anyone who doesn't vote Labour is a Nazi. Everyone has heard it all before. Yawn.

LizzieSiddal · 06/06/2024 20:15

And Sunak couldn’t even be bothered to stay in France this afternoon at the D Day commemorations. He’s an embarrassment to our country.

Sir Keir stayed and is all over the media having a chat with Zelensky.

Another self inflicted stab in the eye for Sunak.

srailfonaidraug · 06/06/2024 20:15

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/06/2024 20:09

Fact!!

The socialist looked like a defeated fox in the middle of the road starring at the fast moving headlights of a HGV!!

I felt embarrassed for the socialist

Socialist?

Don't be ridiculous.

LizzieSiddal · 06/06/2024 20:16

ActivePeony · 06/06/2024 20:15

Yes all Brexit voters are thick twats and anyone who doesn't vote Labour is a Nazi. Everyone has heard it all before. Yawn.

Glad you agree.