Keir, what do you think?

[Lovepeaceunderstanding]

Labour will win this General Election but I don’t think Sir Keir will be party leader a year from now because there are many amongst Labour MP’s who will want to be more radical. Who would you like to see as leader of the Labour Party a year from now and why?

@pointythings

"You're assuming that all the new Labour MPs will be closet Momentum supporters and I'm really not buying that."

Not so much that the new Labour MPs will be closet Momentum supporters but more that there will be alot of new idealistic Labour MPs wanting to see real change. When the realisation that as a backbencher MP means that they can't really effect much change they will get restless.

David Cameron or Jeremy Hunt would be very qualified to take on the role.

Two problems - Cameron isn’t an MP or even standing and Hunt likely won’t be one on 5 July.

@BIossomtoes

"It’s amazing how many people have got crystal balls"

It's just an opinion that may or may not be right.

Oh not the “what would you do” line.

You really are a hypocrite, criticising people who disagree with you for expressing their opinions on the same platform as you.

Or do you think your similarly-afflicted consensus somehow affords you special rights? Good luck with that.

Like the ERG ? Who were sniping at the sidelines for years. I think your view of labour MPs is a bit off actually. I don’t think any of them are clandestine Commies ready to unfurl the soviet flag over the HoP and declare a people’s republic. Some of these theories are flipping mad.

Hyperbolic strawman anyone?

Oh not the “what would you do” line

Its a completely reasonable question

Come on, oh “holier than yowz”

what should we all do before we can bask in your approving sunshine?

Hence ‘so called’. As they haven’t published it yet - despite it being less than 4 weeks to go. We just have the ‘Lets Get Britain Back’ list of hopes and dreams. But they are going to look very silly if the manifesto doesn’t have the same themes…

You really are a hypocrite, criticising people who disagree with you for expressing their opinions on the same platform as you.

The lack of self awareness in this line is hilarious.

The Tories haven't published theirs either. The timeline for publishing manifestos being followed in this election is pretty much normal.

If Jeremy Hunt loses his seat after the election does that matter now?

This article suggests Lord Cameron would be ok as well;

Despite the unlikelihood of a prime minister serving from the House of Lords in contemporary times, analysis in 2023 by Dr Conor Farrington in Political Quarterly suggested that, constitutionally, nothing prevents that from occurring.
Researchers for the House of Lords Library told Bennett: “It does not appear that, beyond the convention, there is any formal mechanism preventing a member of the House of Lords from becoming prime minister.”

https://bylinetimes.com/2024/03/05/yes-lord-david-cameron-could-come-back-as-prime-minister-and-he-wouldnt-need-to-run-for-mp/

You could always crawl sideways back under your rock I suppose?

@Alfreddoeblin

"I think your view of labour MPs is a bit off actually. I don’t think any of them are clandestine Commies ready to unfurl the soviet flag over the HoP and declare a people’s republic. Some of these theories are flipping mad."

I wasn't suggesting at all that the new Labour MPs would be clandestine communists or seeking a communist revolution.

But it is a reality that new MPs of all political parties when elected are idealistic and seek real change to the existing system. This is why they became MPs in the first place.

Once they realise that this is not possible then they get disillusioned and disgruntled.

Conservative manifesto comes out Tuesday- just in case there is any kind of illusion the governing party has already published theirs.

Labour Thursday.

Very standard publication timeline.

You could always crawl sideways back under your rock I suppose?

Well, I am a crab after all

Blair had a stonking majority and stuck with Tory spending plans for two years. I don’t remember him having much trouble with his backbenchers.

If you think the fury about Sunaks disrespect to the nation can be ignored, you are deluded.
If you think an unelected Lord acting as PM would be acceptable, you've gone to a happy place no-one can follow
How would PMQS work for a start?

I spotted this in the article as well;

She said some Labour women seen as “awkward” had been offered peerages to try to get them to stand aside. Was she among them? “I’ve had overtures,” she said.

Even now, she fears she could be chucked out of the party.

Which is why I said ‘so called” as all we have to go on is 24 pages of let’s get Britain back…

It matters not to me whether you view my post with suspicion as I have no party loyalty at all. I treat those that do with suspicion however, as if a party is true to its beliefs then it cannot be the right party for all circumstances.

At times the country needs things diametrically posed to one parties beliefs and yet they still then think they deserve votes. I’ve voted Tory, lib dem and Labour in the past, depending on who I thought had the best policies to address the country’s problems. But this time despite it being less than 4 weeks to go we don’t know what 2 of the parties plans are. And that strikes me as disrespectful to the electorate. I will probably spoil my vote and continue my life as normal.

Utterly delusional. Do you not understand what deep shit your lot are in Clav?

The lack of self awareness in this line is hilarious

Except it isn’t me making demands I’ve no right to.

He didn’t have discontent from the entire public sector to deal with, and the unions were compliant. Neither of which is the case today.

Which has nothing to do with party discipline.

Gtfto2024
If you think the fury about Sunaks disrespect to the nation can be ignored, you are deluded.

I think that depends on next week's headlines.

If you think an unelected Lord acting as PM would be acceptable, you've gone to a happy place no-one can follow

I'm a very optimistic person - I am generally in a happy place.

How would PMQS work for a start?

Not a problem in the next four weeks though is it.

TL:DR I am allowed to criticise everyone and call them names.
No-one is allowed to criticise me or even disagree with me.

Got it.