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General election 2024

Tonight's TV debate Sunak v Starmer - any predictions?

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CallingOccupantsOfInterplanetaryCraft · 04/06/2024 16:44

Anyone up for a watch thread? Maybe even debate bingo. I know I know, don't threaten me with a good time. (Bingo suggestions: natural party of business, Labour has no plan, end the chaos, Rayner will take over, assorted references to Starmer's time as DPP probably blaming for Jimmy Saville again, inflation is down etc etc.)

At this point I seriously doubt anything like this will remotely change the game Nick Clegg style. I read somewhere the only way Sunak could come out of this ahead in the polls is if Starmer pulled off a mask scooby-doo style to reveal he's Jeremy Corbyn, which admittedly would be great telly.

I'm so fed up with the endless rhetoric but will definitely watch later anyway.

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coffeandteav · 04/06/2024 21:30

@Charlie2121

How? Please elaborate.

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2024 21:30

Sunak’s doing my head in.

Notonthestairs · 04/06/2024 21:30

L1ttledrummergirl · 04/06/2024 21:29

Fuck Starmer is patient.

Sunak shut up and let the grown ups speak.

Quite.

Sunak hasn't learnt from talking over Truss.

Hotnamehere · 04/06/2024 21:31

Send them to their rooms. The bickering is annoying.

WinterMorn · 04/06/2024 21:31

What an embarrassment on both parts. Is this really the best choice we can have? And the disingenuous way they keep repeating the audience members names…horrible. So faux.

uniquestionss · 04/06/2024 21:31

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2024 21:30

Sunak’s doing my head in.

Slimy little man

MrsWhites · 04/06/2024 21:31

Its very stressful trying to listen to them shouting over each other.

Starmer doesn’t answer any of the questions put to him though, didn’t answer again about pensioner taxes.

ThatCrackIsReallyMoreish · 04/06/2024 21:31

Rishi is rude, arrogant and full of bluster. Starmer appears to have much more integrity despite his less charismatic personality.

PrincessofWells · 04/06/2024 21:31

I'd quite like to pay more taxes . . .

OneFrenchEgg · 04/06/2024 21:31

She's definitely trying to shut starmer up more as he's less aggressive in his talking over people

Libra19752 · 04/06/2024 21:31

Why shouldn't pensioners pay tax on their pension?

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 04/06/2024 21:31

MrsWhites · 04/06/2024 21:31

Its very stressful trying to listen to them shouting over each other.

Starmer doesn’t answer any of the questions put to him though, didn’t answer again about pensioner taxes.

I know 😭 ANSWER THE QUESTIONS KIER

MagnetCarHair · 04/06/2024 21:31

They should give them their allotted time and then turn off their mics.

ilovesooty · 04/06/2024 21:31

Keir Starmer can talk about the past all he wants

But Sunak, do you seriously expect no one to hold you to account?

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2024 21:31

MrsWhites · 04/06/2024 21:31

Its very stressful trying to listen to them shouting over each other.

Starmer doesn’t answer any of the questions put to him though, didn’t answer again about pensioner taxes.

He didn’t get the chance.

uniquestionss · 04/06/2024 21:31

Starmer is growing on me, Sunak is coming off badly

Cornettoninja · 04/06/2024 21:32

I feel like I’ve heard the same spiel out of Rishi’s mouth since he took position. I just can’t process anything he’s saying as new information, it’s all just yada, yada, yada.

he’s also looking shifty af.

Notonthestairs · 04/06/2024 21:32

MagnetCarHair · 04/06/2024 21:31

They should give them their allotted time and then turn off their mics.

Agree.

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 04/06/2024 21:32

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2024 21:31

He didn’t get the chance.

Oh come on he’s a Barrister, what is stopping him versus Sunak?

Therichgetricher · 04/06/2024 21:32

MidnightPatrol · 04/06/2024 21:30

I really disagree with the idea that pensioners should pay less tax than workers at the same income level.

As a working person, it just seems like a ludicrous bribe to the old, who already pay less tax via their exclusion from NI.

You might until you need care - at which point you’ll be needing every penny. I don’t begrudge the elderly having concessions. Getting old is shit - and they have paid many years into the system.

NigelHarmansNewWife · 04/06/2024 21:32

Charlie2121 · 04/06/2024 21:26

How anyone can vote for Starmer after watching this is beyond me. We are headed for dark times under Labour.

Well I can't vote for the Tories after the way they've run the country into the ground with feckless leader after feckless leader. We don't vote directly for either of them though.

allowstatistical · 04/06/2024 21:32

Sunak is such a petulant, shouty, small man. I didn't like him before but I despise him now.

Bet Starmer wishes there was a judge about and some actual grown up rules about how to debate and communicate or be held in contempt! I'd struggle not to punch Sunak in the face if I were him.

Host needs some way of letting the speak properly without droning on.

MintGreenDream · 04/06/2024 21:32

Why does she keep saying “gentleman” when it’s Sunak over speaking?? This is maddening!

Sunak is coming across so so rude and he clearly thinks he can run this debate better himself.

MidnightPatrol · 04/06/2024 21:32

Rishi constantly repeating the £2,000 thing is just incredibly annoying tbh.

That’s the thing he wants you to remember.

Ignoring entirely that he had increased your taxes by freezing the thresholds.

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2024 21:32

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 04/06/2024 21:32

Oh come on he’s a Barrister, what is stopping him versus Sunak?

Sunak won’t shut up.

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