Tonight's TV debate Sunak v Starmer - any predictions?

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Anyone up for a watch thread? Maybe even debate bingo. I know I know, don't threaten me with a good time. (Bingo suggestions: natural party of business, Labour has no plan, end the chaos, Rayner will take over, assorted references to Starmer's time as DPP probably blaming for Jimmy Saville again, inflation is down etc etc.)

At this point I seriously doubt anything like this will remotely change the game Nick Clegg style. I read somewhere the only way Sunak could come out of this ahead in the polls is if Starmer pulled off a mask scooby-doo style to reveal he's Jeremy Corbyn, which admittedly would be great telly.

I'm so fed up with the endless rhetoric but will definitely watch later anyway.

Yes he did - he just spends the time he is given waffling on about the past!

If you genuinely think the state provides the care, I’d urge you to visit the Elderly parents board. They don’t. Unless you have had cause to interact with the care system recently you really can’t understand how bad it is.

Oh god. Stop with the first name fakeness. Start answering questions. Stop attacking.

Starmer is winning it for me!

and why shouldn’t pensioners pay tax in these difficult times? This will help the younger generations looking after them and help the NHS which they will need more than other!

This whole section of the debate is going to be unfortunate

Come on Kier! Speak clearly, stop saying ‘um’, SAY WHAT YOU WILL DO!

I realise social care is a disaster.

This isn’t a reason to give all pensioners a lower tax rate than workers though.

A pensioner on £25k shouldn’t have a lower tax rate than a worker on £25k.

I’m struggling to see the point of this debate when nobody has released their manifestos yet 😕

Waffling on about the past...you mean holding the government of 14 years to account?

Starmer isn’t saying what he’d do, he’s just pointing the finger.

I prefer Sunak Both men are very rich so having a pop at Rishi is a bit rich.

He just attacks sunak but doesn’t answer

Would Starmer let people in who genuinely need asylum who cant currently come legally?
He's not got the courage to say it for sure.

I agree. It’s a word salad.

Track record? His party hasn’t been in government for over a decade.

“We need to smash the gangs”

HOW?!?!?

Am I the only one who thinks it's depressing things have become so much about voting for a particular political party rather than a good constituency MP?

Also if there is going to be a party leader debate, I think alk parties should be represented.

The host is appalling, she's allowing Sunak to shout over Starmer.

No because he’s not actually doing that, it’s all ‘when I was doing this’ and ‘when I was doing that’.

I’ll vote Labour but this man is an idiot, he hasn’t said a thing about what Labour will do - he’s just attacking.

Immigration now. Starmer wouldn't go near the grooming gangs when he was in charge

Why can't kier just answer the question instead keeps.brinimg up past record, what is his plan.....ignores answering it

He’s talking about the past a lot, Starmer. I’m really disappointed. I couldn’t give a fuck what his parents did for a living, or what his old job was. I want to know what his plans are!

This host is so ineffective. Turn their bloody mikes off. (I know that's not her issue but she's just turning into a rubbish mummy doing gentle parenting)

He’s just not answering the questions!

Amen what is his plan....silence