How confident do you feel that the Tories will lose? pt2

[frankentall]

Listening to Prof Sir John Curtice this morning - it does seem that there may be hope of a massive Tory defeat. It appears they are polling badly everywhere they really need to do well. Cheered me right up.

Pretty confident, until Diane Abbott popped up again!

Ditto

D day for Abbott, will she stand for MP or accept her leaders the socialist's offer??

IMO, Mr Farage will eat into the Tory vote

I'm pretty certain tories will not go into number 10 now. However, the socialists Labour will only slip in via the back door with a coalition partner/s.

However, the socialists Labour will only slip in via the back door with a coalition partner/s.
Please stop peddling this utter crap.

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator I think Farage will take the Tory vote too. I also think he'll take some from Labour, as immigration - illegal and cheap imported labour affects the working "man" more than the middle classes. I kind of do agree about Labour getting in through the back door - I won't vote for them because I like them, it'll be because I'm voting against Tory, and I'm imaging a lot of people who voted Tory last time, me included, will feel the same. Interesting times.

What the fuck is all this "back door" bollocks?
It is an election, albeit with a shit outdated FPTP system - the result will be determined by votes in each constituency. There is no "back door" to a party gaining power, that's just a load of arse.

Agreed

It's a funny one. Yes, everyone wants rid of the current lot of Tories, but there's not the same optimism about Labour that there was in 1997 (or maybe I'm just older!).

I do think Labour will need a coalition, they have always relied on the Scottish vote to form a government, but they currently only have 1 Scottish seat (in comparison during the last Labour government they had over 50 Scottish seats). So they need a massive drop in the SNP vote in Scotland and the vote to all move to them OR they need England to vote for them in numbers that they've never achieved before. Both are possible of course.

This! Have seen this same utter nonsense quote on two threads from this poster 🙄😂

Yes, I’m feeling a bit less depressed today as well.

Yes it is crap. It will be a large victory for Labour. They have actually increased their lead over the Conservatives so far in the election.

I’m getting a sense that Sunak doesn’t want to be PM any more anyway.

How can you be of the opinion that Starmer is a socialist? He famously said he didn’t know what one is.

Many thanks!!
I fully agree with you stance inc Farages lot will also take votes from Labour

Some followed of the socialist labour leader are in for a shock come polling day as YouGov has got it massively wrong before.

However, Tories won't win unless Ms Abbott makes a bombshell disclosure today or something is leaked to the media re Labours real plans

Don't take my word for it

https://metro.co.uk/2024/05/28/take-a-real-socialist-labour-leader-keir-starmer-isnt-one-20926207/

Actions speak louder than words and as a previous poster said, the UK won’t usually vote for a ‘true’ socialist. Tony Blair was also Tory-lite. Which is why we saw a load of MPs resign from his government when he supported the hawkish Iraq war. TB really wasn’t a typical socialist even though he called himself one at university.

Agreed. Surely the party that gets in by the back door in a coalition is the smaller of the two parties??

Ever since Brexit and Trump winning in the US I'm not confident about anything political. You think people couldn't possibly vote a certain way and bam! They do.

The Economists election forecast:

Yes. It’s getting very tiresome.

I think the snp after 17 years have really f**ed up so there might be some cons seats there - though it might be Labour people turn to anything but snp imv

Scotland was traditionally Labour until the SNP came along. I’d astounded if it turned to the Tories. I can see a few Labour gains there.

Tories down to 140 seats on latest poll. Excellent.

I can’t see any reason why people in Scotland would turn to the Tories.

Labour are ahead of the Tories on basically every single measure. Sunak is less popular than Corbyn was in 2019. The country’s a mess, the Tory campaign is a joke, all polls are predicting large majorities for Labour, Tory MPs are deserting the party, they can’t get enough candidates to stand and still some people are wittering on about Labour not winning outright.

Heads in the sand.

I don’t get it. The Tory party was taken over by UKIP aka Brexit party but that was ok ? Starmer has done a decent job ousting far left candidates like Russell moyle.
He can’t win. Maybe it’s the fear of folk with w/c northern accents like Angela Rayner.