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General election 2024

List the top 3 reasons you plan to vote for which party - 2 sentences for each point.

182 replies

PanicAttax · 28/05/2024 21:20

I really am struggling to pick through what I actually want to vote for, rather than against in this coming GE.

I don't feel any party ticks all of my boxes but loathe to have more of the same with Tories killing everything off and sewage.

Labour I can't deal with the VAT on private schools and how they're rolling back on hitting tech companies for tax (seems to be picking on the little guy and parents who care about education).

I really don't know much about Lib Dem - trans seems to be their main concern/not very woman friendly? and Green - do they have great policies that they've costed for? Any other party you think deserves a mention?

So, what are your top three reasons to vote for your party?
Keep it brief and to the point!

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App13 · 29/05/2024 20:07

SheilaFentiman · 29/05/2024 19:59

Trussonomics?

I'm talking about sunak here, truss can go jump

Spendonsend · 29/05/2024 20:07

Lib dem because I know my local candidate and he has done a lot for the area. I dont agree with everthing the party believes, but I dont with any of the others either.

I know he is in this dor the right reason.

SiriAlexa · 29/05/2024 20:09

Oh and Labour’s confused position on the GRA is a strike against them, together with their appalling treatment of Rosie Duffield.

I don’t think there is a single party that is aligned with my values.

Big tick for the Lib Dems is their focus on stopping sewage dumping into waterways, but their position on women’s rights is terrible.

Hazyjaneishere · 29/05/2024 20:10

Do you think only parents whose kids are privately educated ‘care about education?’ If so that’s an interesting take.

I’m not keen on this version of Labour but I do agree with

investing in NHS
Investing in state education
Nationalising services like rail and their plans for a state owned energy company

BlowDryRat · 29/05/2024 20:12

I think Labour, although I don't like it.

  1. The Conservatives seem to enjoy being evil to vulnerable people and I refuse to have refugees dragged off to Rwanda in my name.
  2. My local Labour MP is gender critical and the party needs people like her to be voices of reason.
  3. The Lib Dems and Greens are mired in gender woo and so can fuck right off.

I've voted for all four parties in various elections.

SheilaFentiman · 29/05/2024 20:22

App13 · 29/05/2024 20:07

I'm talking about sunak here, truss can go jump

Errr….

Tory, I appreciate the way the economy has been steered through the multiple crisis it has experienced and I would prefer it to remain that way with sound finances, inflation in control and awaiting an interest rate drop.

Truss, a Tory, steered into one or two of those crises. And the approach of Johnson, a Tory, to Brexit also caused economic strains.

Yolo12345 · 29/05/2024 20:22

Hear hear @MaryBethMayfair and also:

  • SNP are pro-European party. I voted against Brexit so they represent my political views in this area
  • SNP fought for free parking at hospitals in Scotland, which I'm very grateful for
  • SNP have more left-wing policies than Scot Labour, who really struggle to come up with credible left-wing policies in Scotland
  • SNP candidates and party members are from wide range of backgrounds and I feel are more representative of the general population. They are also clearly passionate about the nation, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. Very little "glory" or influence in Scottish politics...
MariaVT65 · 29/05/2024 20:26

Honestly I don’t know. I have never voted Labour before, and I don’t agree with some of their promises. And I have concerns about antisemetism.

But the National Service pledge is insane. Can’t vote for that.

If Labour promise not to reverse the increased funded nursery hours, I may vote for them, as that is what impacts me in the next few years really.

CaveMum · 29/05/2024 20:34

It is worth pointing out that some Labour MPs (David Lammy for example) have previously advocated for a type of National Service. In and of itself it’s not a bad idea, it operates well in Norway and Sweden and Germany are currently looking into it. Military NS does not automatically mean sending young, raw recruits off into battle. These days it is more likely to mean training in things such as cyber security and other roles that can be performed in the UK, leaving the full time military personnel freed up to be deployed.

That being said. What is currently being proposed is ill thought out and it’s obvious no one in the military was actually consulted before they announced it.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 29/05/2024 20:36

App13 · 29/05/2024 20:07

I'm talking about sunak here, truss can go jump

If the Tories win, Sunaks face will be a picture. He'll have to quietly withdraw the kids from that Californian school he'd paid for...

ComingInByAnsible · 29/05/2024 20:39

Not Tories, can't forgive Brexit and the damage they've done to NHS, education and society. The ridiculous National Service plan is the nail in the coffin.

Not Labour and the stupid populist VAT on private schools plan.

Probably Lib Dems, who want closer ties with the EU, to clean up the sewage, and support the NHS.

Angrymum22 · 29/05/2024 20:46

Conservative.

  1. I’ve just turned 60 so their policy re pensions is important
  2. my DS is a student so concerned about VAT on uni fees. There is no guarantee that they won’t change things but Labours VAT on private education may open the floodgates for VAT on many more educational costs.
  3. I am confident that the Tories are more savvy with the whole gender identity issue currently. They are not reaching out to young voters using gender to generate votes.
I have lived through the previous periods of Labour government. They are not a pro women party. Their stand on what defines a woman suggests they haven’t changed.
PanicAttax · 29/05/2024 20:53

ComingInByAnsible · 29/05/2024 20:39

Not Tories, can't forgive Brexit and the damage they've done to NHS, education and society. The ridiculous National Service plan is the nail in the coffin.

Not Labour and the stupid populist VAT on private schools plan.

Probably Lib Dems, who want closer ties with the EU, to clean up the sewage, and support the NHS.

Same points I'd pick and reasoning!

Apologies to the 3rd poster who decided my possibly clumsy wording was me being nasty to all non-private parents. I didn't mean it in that way, as I have explained. Having a deeper appreciation for what Dianne Abbot has been put through!

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App13 · 29/05/2024 20:53

SheilaFentiman · 29/05/2024 20:22

Errr….

Tory, I appreciate the way the economy has been steered through the multiple crisis it has experienced and I would prefer it to remain that way with sound finances, inflation in control and awaiting an interest rate drop.

Truss, a Tory, steered into one or two of those crises. And the approach of Johnson, a Tory, to Brexit also caused economic strains.

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Truss is not a true Tory as far as I am concerned, she doesnt have the economic prowess that Sunak has shown at all.
And Boris is what he is, as is Brexit.

Papyrophile · 29/05/2024 20:58

App13 · 29/05/2024 19:58

Tory, I appreciate the way the economy has been steered through the multiple crisis it has experienced and I would prefer it to remain that way with sound finances, inflation in control and awaiting an interest rate drop.

While I have to hold my nose at the stench of pigs troughing, pigs are pigs. And actually, despite the 49 catastropic days of Liz Truss, I think Rishi has done a very decent job negotiating the biggest potholes for 18 months.

Nevertheless, I think after 14 years in power, the Tories need time off, and Starmer's version of Labour is not scaring my horse. I'm reserving my opinion until I get more information about our Labour candidate and her wish list, I'm waiting to see before deciding. Or I shall spoil my ballot.

SheilaFentiman · 29/05/2024 21:24

App13 · 29/05/2024 20:53

Truss is not a true Tory as far as I am concerned, she doesnt have the economic prowess that Sunak has shown at all.
And Boris is what he is, as is Brexit.

Truss held fairly senior roles in a number of Tory governments and then she led the Tory party.

So yeah, she’s a Tory.

If you want to vote conservative cos you trust Sunak to do a good job, so be it.

LokiCroc · 29/05/2024 21:33

I'm voting Labour. Its my usual go to and was when Andy Burnham was our local MP. After he left, I preferred the local Tory candidate to the Labour one and he was the first Tory MP here in 100yrs or something. He's already quit pre- election so back to Labour I go.

I feel we need a change, even if it seems an impossible task to get this country anywhere near its best. I think Labour will win.

Papyrophile · 29/05/2024 21:35

Trussonomics lasted at most 40 days, which was enough to spook markets worldwide. Rishi Sunak has levelled the ship after the storm and minimised the damage, and I think he deserves credit for doing so. But after 14 years in power, I think the Tories need to go away and get their heads down for a big think about what conservatism should look like 10 years from now. Meanwhile I shall lend my vote to Sir Keir Starmer for a term, and possibly a second term -- as long as the centre left dominate.

OverNexus · 29/05/2024 21:46

The Tories, the Tories, the Tories oh and the Tories. Sorry 4 reasons.
I hate them - have never voted for them never will.

Labour till I die.

Papyrophile · 29/05/2024 21:50

Happy for you in your certainty @OverNexus . Most people are less partisan, to my relief.

bbgtrf · 29/05/2024 22:04

Lib Dem

Live in a blue county
Closer ties with Europe
Childcare

(Have always voted Labour in the past but I can accept VAT of education)

Garlicked · 29/05/2024 22:25

Labour. I live in an extremely safe Conservative seat, so my vote's only a way of sending a very small message.

The message is there is such a thing as society, and it matters. The Tories are speeding up their mission to turn us into something like Belize or Panama with worse weather.

I'm actually a capitalist, but untrammelled capitalism's as bad for a society & economy as any other runaway ideology. Labour does responsible capitalism quite well.

Labour governments are historically good for the economy, while repairing much of the societal damage inflicted by a preceding Conservative administration.

I detest Labour's positions on EU membership and the definition of a woman. Both of those will be long battles, whoever has the majority.

frankentall · 30/05/2024 08:09

PanicAttax · 29/05/2024 20:53

Same points I'd pick and reasoning!

Apologies to the 3rd poster who decided my possibly clumsy wording was me being nasty to all non-private parents. I didn't mean it in that way, as I have explained. Having a deeper appreciation for what Dianne Abbot has been put through!

I suspect people may have been reading this bit of what you wrote and feeliing it's the exact kind of "attack" you complain about others launching -

I'm sure you care about your child but you sure as shit don't care about mine if you vote labour.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 30/05/2024 08:17

Garlicked · 29/05/2024 22:25

Labour. I live in an extremely safe Conservative seat, so my vote's only a way of sending a very small message.

The message is there is such a thing as society, and it matters. The Tories are speeding up their mission to turn us into something like Belize or Panama with worse weather.

I'm actually a capitalist, but untrammelled capitalism's as bad for a society & economy as any other runaway ideology. Labour does responsible capitalism quite well.

Labour governments are historically good for the economy, while repairing much of the societal damage inflicted by a preceding Conservative administration.

I detest Labour's positions on EU membership and the definition of a woman. Both of those will be long battles, whoever has the majority.

I agree. Listening to Jeremy Hunt thus morning is like listening to the Tories from 40 years ago. Low taxes, when individuals and businesses aldo need efficient public services, decent roads, working healthcare, sanitation and education in order to grow the economy not just tax cuts, which take money away from all those things ( although the highest tax burden since WWII doesn't seem to have been spent on any public services over the past 10 or so years) We have a huge skills shortage and vacancies all over the place, so talk of jobs creation is out of date too. Nothing new at all. Just pandering again to their base.

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