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General election 2024

List the top 3 reasons you plan to vote for which party - 2 sentences for each point.

182 replies

PanicAttax · 28/05/2024 21:20

I really am struggling to pick through what I actually want to vote for, rather than against in this coming GE.

I don't feel any party ticks all of my boxes but loathe to have more of the same with Tories killing everything off and sewage.

Labour I can't deal with the VAT on private schools and how they're rolling back on hitting tech companies for tax (seems to be picking on the little guy and parents who care about education).

I really don't know much about Lib Dem - trans seems to be their main concern/not very woman friendly? and Green - do they have great policies that they've costed for? Any other party you think deserves a mention?

So, what are your top three reasons to vote for your party?
Keep it brief and to the point!

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DrCoconut · 28/05/2024 22:34

Labour. Tactical vote to get the tories out mainly.

This. Greens most closely align with my values, followed by lib dem, although they are both problematic with regard to the trans issue, as are labour, but labour are the only choice here for a chance to remove the Tories. Would much prefer proportional representation! Our labour candidate is very active in the community and does get things done locally, whereas I never see anything from our current Tory MP or the lib dem who is standing.

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 29/05/2024 09:11

Labour.

Not the Tories
Local candidate is sound and represents constituents well
I rate Rachel Reeve
I am not at all wealthy, and live in London. It is not good when the Gvt in power use the politics of a London Mayor as political tit for tat.
I can’t vote for a party that pushes a plan like Rwanda.

I don’t think anyone can magic economic tricks out of the charred ruins of the post/Brexit hat but despite some shocking behaviour by Labour (treatment of Rosie Duffield et al ) I think Labour will do their best with less lying, corruption, incompetence and self interest than the Tories have displayed.

FindingMeno · 29/05/2024 09:15

Voting Labour.
To get the Tories out.
Full stop.

Moglet4 · 29/05/2024 09:15

It’s a difficult one. Where I am, it makes no difference- it will be blue. But there’s not a cat’s chance in hell I’m voting for the Tories so whatever I vote is just a protest vote.
I had originally intended to vote Labour as they are the closest to the Tories in my constituency but this is getting less and less likely for 3 reasons:

  1. Starmer’s u-turn on PR. IMO this is the single most important matter. He advocated for it then when he realised he had a good chance of getting in he went against his own members’ wishes and vetoed it. Appallingly self-serving move.
  2. Brexit. It’s being ignored. This is cowardly and merely kicking the can down the road as it’s going to have to be addressed at some point.
  3. VAT on fees
So i guess I’m voting LD or Green.
HebburnPokemon · 29/05/2024 09:19

Labour

  1. VAT on private schooling.
  2. Votes for 16 year olds.
  3. No indication they will hold civil servants in contempt (like Tories do).
BIossomtoes · 29/05/2024 09:21

Labour. There are many more than three reasons but the main ones are: public services, particularly the NHS; their approach to immigration; and fairer taxation. The Labour front bench is filled with serious, thoughtful, intelligent politicians who inspire my confidence.

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 29/05/2024 09:22

VAT on private schools: Lifelong Labour voter and no defender of private schools.

But I think Labour have this wrong.
Remove / challenge charitable status, they are businesses not charities, and allowing the neighbouring state school to use their cricket pitch no more makes them a charity than donating vouchers for our fete raffle makes Tesco a charity.

However, my understanding is that educational services are VAT exempt. Which seems right and fair. So I don’t think Labour should meddle with VAT status on one type of education over another for idealogical purposes. E.g Uni. Music lessons. Tutoring. It seems spiteful, and of little net gain.

But I am not a VAT expert.

Lifelikinotdothinki · 29/05/2024 09:26

I’m voting for the party who recognise women as women.

I’m voting for the party who promise to keep women’s safe spaces safe.

I’m voting for the party who will keep women’s sport for actual women.

As it is, women died so I could vote but I’m buggered to know who to vote for.

frankentall · 29/05/2024 09:28

Lampslights · 29/05/2024 09:06

Posts like these are the reason folks don’t post on these type of threads if they aren’t voting labour. As you get attacked for it. It’s utterly crazy and if anyone thinks it changes what happens at the ballot box, they are seriously deluded.

What/whom have I attacked? If people don't wish to debate their choice of political party then the election topic on here is an odd place to post anything.

HebburnPokemon · 29/05/2024 09:32

Lifelikinotdothinki · 29/05/2024 09:26

I’m voting for the party who recognise women as women.

I’m voting for the party who promise to keep women’s safe spaces safe.

I’m voting for the party who will keep women’s sport for actual women.

As it is, women died so I could vote but I’m buggered to know who to vote for.

Labour have u-turned on trans issues, so there's a home for you there.

Lifelikinotdothinki · 29/05/2024 09:37

HebburnPokemon · 29/05/2024 09:32

Labour have u-turned on trans issues, so there's a home for you there.

I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest that. Can you point me in the right direction?

Anniegetyourgun · 29/05/2024 09:39

Whoever you vote for, no-one's going to tick every box, but you clearly realize that.

I'm going to be voting Labour more hopefully than I did at the last GE, as I have a lot more confidence in the current leadership. That was a definite case of "Tories must go" rather than "this lot will be better". In 2024 there appear to be at least some grown-ups in charge of Labour whilst Conservative have continued to go downhill. As a pp said, they used to have people you could respect and have reasonable confidence the place would still work even if you disagreed with their policy direction. Now the best ones have been ousted or given up.

A lot of voters feel today's Labour are not different enough, but I like that they're not leaping to make huge changes from Day 1 without checking what the finances allow. Too sudden a turn leads to the ship capsizing - I'd say ask Liz Truss, but she still believes it was a legitimate strategy which would have worked if it wasn't for those meddling economists/bankers/markets/IMF et al.

I also like that Keir Starmer is being cautious about making promises he is not sure can be fulfilled. Some call it flip-flopping, I call it honesty, and I greatly prefer it to the grandiose statements that not only can't but shouldn't be honoured.

Private schools: I attended a private primary, my DC went to state primaries, and we all went to grammar school. DGC are at a lovely state primary where their other GM teaches. When I was that age private education was a lot cheaper but it was still too expensive for my parents to put their third child through it; I honestly don't think we elder two gained a massive advantage over our sibling but maybe it just wasn't the right private school... On the VAT/affordability issue, obviously I'm not going to care in a personal sense about children I don't know, but I do care that all the nation's children should have the chance to live in a decent society with clean air, water, energy, reliable and safe food supply, a roof over their heads, health care, access to education and information, employment options and a safety net for emergencies. I count these things as more important - vastly so - than private education. And I can honestly say the current iteration of the Conservative Party is going backwards on pretty much all of it.

Lib Dems: fill your boots. They're not going to get in but I have no problem with them gaining influence. I also actively approve of more Green input to governance, but agree they're not viable as a government at the moment, in policy breadth as much as electoral chances - but they're working on it.

Er, brief, did you say? I'd better stop now then 😬

50shadedofmagnolia · 29/05/2024 09:41

I had a cup of tea and a chat about what's important to us as a family yesterday (not planned we we're enjoying a picnic in the garden as she was canvassing) with the labour candidate yesterday.
I think I'd be happy with her if she delivers what she discussed.

TinyYellow · 29/05/2024 09:47

I’m voting green. Because they’re not an untrustworthy bunch of hypocrites like the Labour Party and nor do they think it’s ok to stick asylum seekers on planes to Rwanda.

Portakalkedi · 29/05/2024 09:49

Not sure of the point of questions like this, same as the Brexit topic, few will respond if they support the Conservatives/Leave, as they get a kicking. Thus the responses will be overwhelmingly pro Labour and therefore skewed.

Lifelikinotdothinki · 29/05/2024 09:49

The Green Party believes that trans, non-binary, genderqueer, third gender, and intersex people should have their gender legally recognised and be empowered to update their birth certificate and any other official documents, without medical or state encumbrance.

skippy67 · 29/05/2024 09:50

I'll be voting Labour. They seem to be inherently more honest and competent than the Tories.
They seem to care about the majority rather than the minority.
I love the proposal of adding VAT to private school fees.

skippy67 · 29/05/2024 09:52

Lifelikinotdothinki · 29/05/2024 09:26

I’m voting for the party who recognise women as women.

I’m voting for the party who promise to keep women’s safe spaces safe.

I’m voting for the party who will keep women’s sport for actual women.

As it is, women died so I could vote but I’m buggered to know who to vote for.

Who haven't said who you're voting for though...

Bellevilles · 29/05/2024 09:53

Labour, because they have the best shot of getting rid of our appalling MP, Therese Coffey.

If it wasn’t FPTP I would vote Green.

LaPalmaLlama · 29/05/2024 09:55

@Anniegetyourgun I'm broadly where you are on Labour. My problem is I quite like the policies, I just don't honestly believe they will be implemented and not necessarily from want of trying. In particular I think there will be huge media and public pressure on them to produce these 6,500 teachers from VAT on private schools and when they inevitably don't, it's going to look really bad.

I guess my ideal would be hung parliament (Labour biggest party) to force the two main parties into a centrist consensus and rid both "wings" of influence.

The LD's are just reeds in the wind who scrabble around trying to find a gap in the shifting spectrum (not really their fault- I just don't see the point of them)

Greens are typical party that know they won't be elected so they just write an unfunded unicorn wish list - can't take them seriously, nor should I.

Independents - depends on who they are- some would be solid constituency MPs (nothing wrong with that) - some, including ours, have some odd fringe political ideas- he's basically the Brexit party so not really sure what his manifesto is now.

caringcarer · 29/05/2024 09:58

Reform UK. They won't win but they will get my vote.

Immigration is too high because we don't have the infrastructure to accommodate it or the money to boost infrastructure. The only way we can curb it is to get out of European rights and bring in our own bill of rights.

Reform clearly state there are only 2 sexes and don't entertain the idea of dozens of genders. Female spaces and races should be protected.

Reform UK would increase personal allowances to £20k before tax was paid for everyone. It's been frozen for years dragging more and more people into paying more tax.

Those are my top 3 reasons. I don't expect them to be popular but they make good sense to me.

caringcarer · 29/05/2024 10:03

Lifelikinotdothinki · 29/05/2024 09:26

I’m voting for the party who recognise women as women.

I’m voting for the party who promise to keep women’s safe spaces safe.

I’m voting for the party who will keep women’s sport for actual women.

As it is, women died so I could vote but I’m buggered to know who to vote for.

Reform UK are very gender critical.

LaPalmaLlama · 29/05/2024 10:08

Portakalkedi · 29/05/2024 09:49

Not sure of the point of questions like this, same as the Brexit topic, few will respond if they support the Conservatives/Leave, as they get a kicking. Thus the responses will be overwhelmingly pro Labour and therefore skewed.

Yes- there's definitely that danger in terms of polling- you see the same thing in the US- particularly in the case of hispanic men saying they will vote Trump but then not. Even when people are asked anonymously they lie. I think Labour will win but not by as much as the polls predict. That said, KS has done a lot (not as well as TB but still) to make them appear aspirational, which is quite important.

I cant remember if it was the 2010 or 2015 election which was dubbed the "MN election" and predicted a huge win for the LD's who ended up being completely wiped out.

Spinet · 29/05/2024 10:08

caringcarer · 29/05/2024 10:03

Reform UK are very gender critical.

What do you mean by gender critical here?

CaveMum · 29/05/2024 10:12

Lifelikinotdothinki · 29/05/2024 09:49

The Green Party believes that trans, non-binary, genderqueer, third gender, and intersex people should have their gender legally recognised and be empowered to update their birth certificate and any other official documents, without medical or state encumbrance.

And let us not forget they also attempted to classify people as men and “non-men”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/i-won-t-be-referred-to-as-nonmale-by-the-green-party-women-have-suffered-prejudice-because-of-their-bodies-for-too-long-a6967926.html

Why I won't be referred to as a 'non-male' by the Green Party

It’s important to remember that when women were denied the vote, they were denied it because they were biologically women – regardless of their gender identity or whether they were gender-conforming

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/i-won-t-be-referred-to-as-nonmale-by-the-green-party-women-have-suffered-prejudice-because-of-their-bodies-for-too-long-a6967926.html