Would you vote for this lot if they "protected women's rights"??

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IMO, for millions this may be a deal breaker.

I'm all for equality and that stuff, etc. However, reading Labour stance on women rights Vs Conservatives stance on women's rights.

Will Labour voters who are ladies vote Conservatives just because of their stance on 'women's rights'?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/03/16/rishi-sunak-amend-equality-act-single-sex-spaces-sport/

Thosw ladies still voting Labour must be feeling confident that Rayner will slip in via the backdoor.

Tories as they stand are not great for England. If I has a gun held to my foot and told to chode between the Tories and the Lab lot, I'd vote Tories as they are not taking away the rights that women over they years have fought hard for.

The fact is you know where the Tries stand re womens rights and Labour, that is a big fact. Sadly another fact, both of them will spout total BS to get into power, so there is no difference there

In conclusion - if you are a woman, a female of any age or a husband, brother, father etc - don't forget what Labours stance is on women rights and its in your hands at the GE

Thosw ladies still voting Labour must be feeling confident that Rayner will slip in via the backdoor.

I’m not a lady, I’m a Labour voting woman who is sufficiently clear sighted enough to see that the biggest threat to women is a Tory government. If Rayner is reelected as I expect her to be it will be via the legitimate democratic process, not the “back door”.

What single sex spaces have the Tories protected? Certainly not refuges, or women's centres which have shrivelled from a lack of funding.

I suspect a lot of people are using this as an excuse to vote Tory as if it will protect them from the scorn they deserve for condemning the country to another 5 years of corruption, incompetence and the further erosion of everyone's rights.

@SiobhanSharpe excellent summary. That should be posted everywhere.

"eroding behind rights"

50% of the population is a pretty big slice of the population and many women and girls are still unequal and underprivileged and are denied the rights the UK afford them. So you want to further reduce their status.

And all thanks to Labour and their "equal rights"

I believe in equality but Labours idea of this is crazy IMO

What women's rights will the tories protect?
Where we are right now is down to the tories.

There’s another thread on this subject and reactions were mixed as you’d expect, probably leaning towards voting Conservatives on this issue but that’s to be expected as the thread would attract those invested in the subject.

Ive commented a lot on that thread already but

Womens rights and any gender policy that has a negative effect on those rights are top of my list.

No
Where we are right now is down to Stonewall bullying.
But tbh I’m not getting into this again as there are other threads on this subject for the denyers to read if they are interested

Very well said 👏👏👏👏

Labour don't care either. They've said as much. They apparently agree with the Tories on that one.

The way Labour have and continue to treat women over this issue is unforgivable.
I said 5 years ago I would never forgive them and I won't. They will never get my vote again.

However, that doesn't mean I'm voting Conservative. Just to be clear.

Exactly. I’m baffled that any woman could read this and go ‘nah, I want all that.’ And then go and vote Labour. Or Lib Dem or Green.

As somebody left of centre I could weep that we’re being forced into choosing between the fucking Tories and this. Whatever way you vote you’ll be a turkey voting for Christmas. Where’s the choice on this?

I really want to see some analysis on how the fuck we’ve got here in 2024. Anyone would think it was 1924. It’s fucking outrageous.

100% this

Based on what? Calling them bigots and ‘dinosaurs hoarding rights’. You are kidding yourself.

100% of the population have lost these rights under the Tory government

https://www.ier.org.uk/news/7-employment-rights-you-have-lost-under-tory-pm/

"the UK government weakened basic freedoms, like people’s right to protest, with new legislation. The UK’s pursuit of its plan to transfer asylum seekers to Rwanda and the introduction of the Illegal Migration Act attacked the rights of refugees and asylum seekers...

In April, the government passed the Public Order Act, further criminalizing people’s right to peaceful protest; undermining freedom of expression, peaceful assembly, and association; and limiting workers’ strikes. The law came amid an ongoing crackdown on people protesting the government’s increasingly regressive climate change policies.

In July, the UK government adopted the widely condemned Illegal Migration Act, which bans access to asylum and undermines modern slavery and trafficking protections for anyone who arrives “irregularly” to the UK. ...

Despite an ongoing cost of living crisis, the UK government failed to adopt policies to ensure people’s rights to social security and an adequate standard of living, including food and adequate housing."

And not least their plans to scrap the Human Rights Act.

“When you think about the Human Rights Act, think of Hillsborough, or the successful challenge to police banning women from holding a vigil for Sarah Everard, or how the government will be forced to hold a proper inquiry into its handling of the Covid pandemic.

“The Human Rights Act is the most important weapon ordinary people have against the state and wrongful treatment, and we should all be very suspicious of the very people it holds to account telling us they are doing us a favour by watering it down.”

Right now I'll be voting about unless LD or greens come up with something spectacular!

I won't be voting for the party who have presided over the decimation of woman the past 14 years.

They've cut services which mean woman who are in abusive relationships find it harder to leave.

Massively raised rents make it harder for woman to leave.

Education and health care decimated which disproportionately affect woman.

Not to mention the number of the Tory MPs accused of sexual assault.

Labour have pledged to protect sex based rights even if they are for GRC.

I'm not a single issue voter. But I love being British and won't vote for a party who has systematically destroyed Britain for over a decade.

It was under the Tories that the safe spaces disappeared. Why can you not vote Labour exactly? If its just down to this one issue I'd be making it very clear to my prospective MP what my views were on this.

This. Simples.

The safe spaces were not legislated out.
Transwomen simply took over the spaces and as they declared themselves women made it impossible to deny them access.
There was a period of Stonewall pushing all the buttons but the Conservatives are the only ones who have and are pushing back on that.

For example
New building regulations clearly state all new buildings must have single sex toilets for men, women and unisex.
There was and has never been a requirement for the third category.

With Labour saying all women including trans women are the same legally women will legally lose the right to safe spaces.
The Conservatives do not recognise women and trans women as the same.

I should have tagged @Lifelikinotdothinki aswell.
Apologies

All of the damage to women's rights and the erosion of single sex spaces has happened under the tory watch. I expect most women aren't stupid enough to fall into this trap.

And now the Tories have started to put things right. They commissioned the cass report which took years to complete d once that was released they have swung into action, putting in safeguarding measures in schools and hospitals as soon as possible. Labour haven't even said anything about it. Rosie Duffield is still persona non gratis

Good luck then when Labour get in a redefine the legal meaning of ‘woman’ to include men. If any woman or girl you care about is in a vulnerable position where they need a single sex space, this will be denied and you’ll be gaslighted and persecuted as a bigot.

And worse, if they get harmed or assaulted by any man - who by this point will have a perfectly legitimate right to be amongst vulnerable women - the perpetrator be treated as just another woman like you and me. Actually not like the average woman, they’ll be treated and fawned over as a special delicate person. Not as the manipulative loophole-seeking opportunist male they are.

And if you value women’s sports, say goodbye to those.

Already sick of the lack of research and care for women’s health? Well it’ll be the health of all ‘people’ then. Back to prioritising men.

It makes me so depressed and angry to think that all our rights and safeties will just go once Labour get in. The Greens and Lib Dems are even worse. We all think the Tories are a shit show but be careful what you wish for.