AIBU to think no one agrees with conscription. Does Rushi want to loose the election? This feels like a threat not and election promise?

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This has been popping up on my SM overnight. I feel like Rushinis doing his best to throw this election.

Who exactly thinks Conscription is a good idea and how would it work??

Of the 18 year olds I know, quite a few are married and have children. How is that going to work out ?
Some are in college pursuing a career in dance, or training in sports where taking a year off would all bar right off their career

Some already have apprenticeships which would have to be stopped
Dd and ds were starting businesses

Not all young people are heading to a life of crime and not all young people are straight out of school heading for university and a year out is more of a gap year and isn’t going to mess up any long term career

For some it is going to be a disaster

Can't misbehave if you get blown up at 18 I suppose

My sons have all done these questionnaires and personality profiling as part of careers advice but without specialists brought in.
They are very good I think.
Generally they suited all my boys but generally they were the fields they wanted as well. Perhaps swayed by the profiling possibly.
They would be excellent in all state schools.

That’s very inflammatory
National Service doesn’t involve getting blown up.

For those in education, work, training etc there’s volunteering.
Or perhaps look at the other 80 countries that have some form of National Service and see how they work to give an idea.

Don’t a lot of the military come out and end up homeless and/or mental health problems? Sadly it doesn’t seem to work well for them.

That sounds amazing! Such a shame that they closed down.

"For some it is going to be a disaster"

I know 18 year olds in full time employment. And now they meant to spend their one day off a week being forced to volunteer.

Tie the completion of the military or civil work to the right to vote. You shouldn’t have the right to choose who governs the country unless you have served the country.

Obviously I agree conscription is a terrible idea. I do however hope all those people outraged at the thought of sending their son's or grandsons to war think again before they support any more wars abroad. It's easy when it's other people children who are dying

I think it is a good idea, if implemented sensibly. I am not a wealthy British pensioner who hates young people as suggested on the thread, I am an immigrant from a country where there's compulsory national service.

Remember, some of us didn't think that people would be stupid enough to vote for Brexit- and it happened.

So, this should be a warning for people to actually vote.

And all those over 40 who actually think this is a fab idea, should have to do it. Including Maude and Frank at 79 -tucked up comfortably with their final salary pension , annual car switch and numerous European breaks, stumbling around in their 4 bedroom house.

Apparantly, there will be no exceptions around working, Uni etc. or even health, in most cases. 🙄. The only choice will be around military service or volunteering.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c988jdxl02vo

Good for you.

Then when your kids reach 18, taken them back to your home country and pop them on the compulsory program.

Personally, I'd like my kids to have the choice not to have to do this.

Well, I fit none of the above generalistic criteria, other than being a pensioner . 🙄

Why would I want my GCs dragged into this nonsense anyway?🤷‍♀️

Do you think he's got the wind up about Russia and China?

I prefer them to serve in their country of citizenship which is Great Britain, and where their roots on the father's side are. However, It is sooo cute when left leaning people use "don't like it here, go back home" when speaking to someone foreign who happens to have a difference of opinion to them lol.

I don't think that would work given the low percentage of young people who vote. Nor would making a university place conditional on completion as half of all young people don't go.

I can imagine the work for the legal profession and the court cases to get exceptions.

Of course there is a simple response to this- vote for someone other than the Conservatives.

Noone is stopping them serving their country of citizenship though. People don't want 18 year olds being forced to.

Well the whole idea is that everyone does it, otherwise it kind of loses sense. You know, like learning to read and having at least basic school education, paying taxes, driving according to traffic rules and so on. All "forced" on 18 year olds.

He definitely doesn't want to win and is pushing for a big Labour majority win, but I don't know why.

How old are you that you think 41year olds are the demographic supporting this?

18 year olds don't actually have to go to school. They also have a choice about whether to drive. Although taxes are compulsory if they earn enough it is something everyone has to do not just people of a specific age.

It reminds me of when COVID kicked off people were asked to sign up as 'nhs volunteers' and large numbers of people did . In the meantime communities had already organised themselves and started trying to locate any vulnerable people who might be in need of support. Were any of the official volunteers ever called on? The scheme went very quiet very quickly