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General election 2024

What do you want out of the new government?

160 replies

chillymorns · 25/05/2024 16:21

Whoever they are.

I want -

A better management and investment in key areas of the NHS

Cheaper utilities

More money for disabled people and their families

More tax on those earning over a certain %, so maybe those on £100k plus being taxed a bit further

Cheaper railways being introduced

Better investment in local facilities

Please share yours Smile I voted Labour last time and will do so again. The Tories just need to be gone, and I'm not convinced those with any sense will say otherwise

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ShanghaiDiva · 27/05/2024 14:15

all children to have access to an NHS dentist
repair the roads properly, not by patching and filling in potholes and then re patching 6 months later
honesty and transparency

MissyB1 · 27/05/2024 15:15

steamedisbest · 26/05/2024 12:05

Sounds like a response in a Miss Skegness Beauty Pageant

We're you a contestant?

Xtraincome · 27/05/2024 18:30

Proper investment in schools and education. Bring back 14-16 apprenticeships and allow children to finish school at 16 if they have a trade/skill. Slow down the maths and English curriculums somewhat so that learners are not bombarded with it every single morning of their school life.

Affordable utilities

Stricter house buying processes like Scotland.

Katypp · 27/05/2024 18:50

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 25/05/2024 20:21

A government who admits the public are part of the problem.

The Tories have been a shitshow but the quality of the public has absolutely nosedived. They’re lazy, entitled, unhealthy, weak and unintelligent.

Essentially a ‘firm but fair’ parent who is willing to make unpopular decisions and hold their nerve.

No more bloody concessions and handing out free money.

Reward people who work.

Stop letting half the country play the victim.

I agree with this. I am a member of several FB pages where people seem to spend most of their time competing with each other over who is the most vulnerable, poor, cold etc. Endless pics last winter of them sat in coats and hats to keep warm or 'sitting with tears rolling down my face' watching their smart meter.
Stiff upper lip has been and gone now - it's all about being a victim.
I blame Gordon Brown for starting this dependency culture with tax credits. It's grown into a complete monster with no-one having any shame anymore.
Those cost of living payments were a shocking mistake - everyone knew people were spending them on all sorts then moaning they could not afford to heat their homes.
Pensioners moaning they were freezing when they were given up to £600 extra to heat their homes.
It's all take, and as long as the money keeps coming, no thought as to who is actually paying for it

parkrun500club · 27/05/2024 20:47

Rejoining the EU (ok that isn't going to happen but much closer links and agree to the EU proposal for free movement for under 25s and rejoin Erasmus)

Ban pavement parking

Ban noisy fireworks and garden bonfires

Abolish employee NI and increase income tax - simplify taxation - it will actually bring in more tax and cost less

Make NHS core service and everyone has to have private or public insurance for everything else - including dentistry - so people can afford the dentist and there would be dentists available. Much more thought needed on that one though.

Get rid of GCSEs and have a numeracy/literacy test at 16 instead - ideally I'd change the whole school system around but it wouldn't be realistic

Fix potholes and build cycle lanes

Sort out the water companies' pollution

Consumer law reform to make companies answer phones and deal with customer problems.

Carrots and sticks to get holiday/second/empty properties brought back into residential use

parkrun500club · 27/05/2024 20:51

The Tories have been a shitshow but the quality of the public has absolutely nosedived. They’re lazy, entitled, unhealthy, weak and unintelligent

I do agree with this. Especially with financial services. If you made a bargain, that's on you. I don't see why there should be compensation for everything, eg equity release. Some things are blatantly unfair and will get reformed - but if you agree to something because the overall product suits you, that's your decision. An example would be my father buying a retirement flat with a 1% sales fee. Outrageous in my view, but it suited him at the time and there would be no justification in compensation.

Badbadbunny · 02/06/2024 08:45

Katypp · 27/05/2024 18:50

I agree with this. I am a member of several FB pages where people seem to spend most of their time competing with each other over who is the most vulnerable, poor, cold etc. Endless pics last winter of them sat in coats and hats to keep warm or 'sitting with tears rolling down my face' watching their smart meter.
Stiff upper lip has been and gone now - it's all about being a victim.
I blame Gordon Brown for starting this dependency culture with tax credits. It's grown into a complete monster with no-one having any shame anymore.
Those cost of living payments were a shocking mistake - everyone knew people were spending them on all sorts then moaning they could not afford to heat their homes.
Pensioners moaning they were freezing when they were given up to £600 extra to heat their homes.
It's all take, and as long as the money keeps coming, no thought as to who is actually paying for it

Nail on the head. Fully agree. Need to stop the pity party and get people taking responsibility for themselves again.

Badbadbunny · 02/06/2024 08:49

@parkrun500club

Abolish employee NI and increase income tax - simplify taxation - it will actually bring in more tax and cost less

Yes, yes, yes! We need more tax revenue and it’s grossly unfair to keep hammering workers - time to spread the burden over more people. Those with unearned income, I.e. pensions, dividends, rental income have got away with it for too long, ever since Brown/Blairs NIC increases which they were in favour of because it didn’t affect them!

scalt · 02/06/2024 08:55

Nail on the head. Fully agree. Need to stop the pity party and get people taking responsibility for themselves again.
I know it's not the only thing about this, but this is one reason of many I think that blanket lockdowns were an absolutely terrible thing to happen. It became the State's responsibility to "protect the public", in a way that did much more harm than good. I think it really should have been shield the vulnerable, and let everything else carry on. Because Saint Boris vowed to do "whatever it takes", people looked to him as their saviour. It then made it politically much more difficult to end lockdowns, because that would have been murdering Granny. His staged grovel over 100,000 deaths many of which were with Covid, rather than of Covid only reinforced this.

This problem has been around for ages. Once upon a time, people looked both ways before crossing the road. Now, they try to sue the council if they get run over.

Northernnature · 02/06/2024 09:13

Yes, one of the main priorities (which I know neither party will address) should be addressing the breakdown of the family. This includes absent fathers taking responsibility and tax breaks for marriage and allowing one partner to use the others tax allowance if theyre caring for children or other family members. We have the worst family breakdown in Europe and this costs the state alot of money and feeds into crime, drugs loneliness etc. The only politicians addressing this are tories such as miriam cates who are not in the leadership.

Katypp · 02/06/2024 09:21

scalt · 02/06/2024 08:55

Nail on the head. Fully agree. Need to stop the pity party and get people taking responsibility for themselves again.
I know it's not the only thing about this, but this is one reason of many I think that blanket lockdowns were an absolutely terrible thing to happen. It became the State's responsibility to "protect the public", in a way that did much more harm than good. I think it really should have been shield the vulnerable, and let everything else carry on. Because Saint Boris vowed to do "whatever it takes", people looked to him as their saviour. It then made it politically much more difficult to end lockdowns, because that would have been murdering Granny. His staged grovel over 100,000 deaths many of which were with Covid, rather than of Covid only reinforced this.

This problem has been around for ages. Once upon a time, people looked both ways before crossing the road. Now, they try to sue the council if they get run over.

You might be right there as there has definitely been a shift in recent years.
While there was suffering that was not talked about in the past, I find this recent phenomena of poverty hierarchy deeply troubling. As I said, I am a member of an energy Facebook page and the victim mentality astonishing. People seem to revel in 'not being able to understand' or 'please help me' instead of sorting problems out for themselves. Instead of behaving like adults, they behave like children, expecting someone else to look after them. It's a bizarre and not good shift imo

Chocolatelover13 · 02/06/2024 09:26

No independence for Scotland - ideally ged rid of the SNP
lower welfare bill, with money being focused in the right areas
Overhaul of the NHS
More equal taxation, this doesn’t mean increasing those in the £100k bracket more and more
deal with tax dodgers
stop removal of women’s rights
get a culture of work back into society
nationalise things like rail, water etc but don’t allow the unions to destroy them - public service but run with a business mindset so that it’s not profit making. Profits reinvested into the service
remove fees for uni education for the majority of courses but for some, which are a waste of time then fees could still be payable. People won’t like this but don’t believe this is fully supportable as is
sort out child maintenance and deal with persistent none payers, garner wages, remove driving licences

Katypp · 02/06/2024 10:12

@Chocolatelover13 care to add some detail to your list?
I am particularly interested in how you suggest the new government gets rid of the SNP, overhauls the NHS and deals with tax dodgers?

Chocolatelover13 · 02/06/2024 11:43

Katypp · 02/06/2024 10:12

@Chocolatelover13 care to add some detail to your list?
I am particularly interested in how you suggest the new government gets rid of the SNP, overhauls the NHS and deals with tax dodgers?

I’m not sure how they can get rid of the SNP but we can live in hope that the next election obliterates the SNP, they need to be got rid of ASAP!
NHS, review and remove the vast number of management levels, review costs and invest money in front line services. There are many many reports on where money is wasted.
Tighten tax legislation and prosecute those companies who avoid their tax obligations, rather than tax those perceived higher earners more and more to fill the gaps in the public purse.

taxguru · 02/06/2024 11:55

Northernnature · 02/06/2024 09:13

Yes, one of the main priorities (which I know neither party will address) should be addressing the breakdown of the family. This includes absent fathers taking responsibility and tax breaks for marriage and allowing one partner to use the others tax allowance if theyre caring for children or other family members. We have the worst family breakdown in Europe and this costs the state alot of money and feeds into crime, drugs loneliness etc. The only politicians addressing this are tories such as miriam cates who are not in the leadership.

I think we need to extend that to the fragmentation of families caused by the ridiculous push for 18 year olds to move away to Uni, and then never return because there are often no decent jobs for graduates outside a handful of big cities. We need reasons for children to stay studying and working near their family homes to maintain family support networks and that means and end to centralisation of everything in a few big cities and spreading the economy more evenly over the country.

pointythings · 02/06/2024 12:22

I agree with decentralising the economy; that would be good for everyone. I disagree that 18 year olds should stay in the nest and not have the opportunity to live independently without mummy and daddy on the doorstep.

As for Miriam Cates; anyone who complains about people being 'excessively educated' and uses tropes like 'cultural Marxism' is highly suspect to me. Keeping a population ill educated makes them easy to manipulate and the cultural Marxism trope is antisemitic.

bombastix · 02/06/2024 12:23

I’d like a lot of investment in schooling from primary age; schools are neglected and underfunded. Removal of the “charity sector” in filling any gaps. Make expulsions a lot easier than they are currently but end discretion on knife possession and drugs - these should be mandatory reasons to be excluded.

Refund the criminal justice system. Police, crown prosecution service and the courts. A strong focus on prosecution of domestic abuse and violence - actual prosecutions not talk. I would also change the presumption on child contact - any violent or sexual offending should disbar someone from contact unless certain criteria are met, one being psychological assessment. That should be presumed, not optional.

Nationalise rail, water and energy.

And welfare benefits need to be reformed. We are subsidizing companies to pay poor wages and also people who are definitely capable of working full time.

Social housing to be reviewed as to who qualifies, and how long you stay in it. Stop the sale of it.

RobinStrike · 02/06/2024 15:01
  1. For the next government to adhere to the Nolan principles in public office and for whatever structures there are to hold them to it be given genuine powers. Also for the CEO and boards of utilities to be legally bound by the same principles.

2.Following on from that, the suspension of any MPs or civil servants immediately there is a complaint made against them and their removal if the complaint is upheld. Too much is done within the Party because they don't have an HR department and employ heir own staff.

3.Reinvestment in health, education, railways, water, and 18+ training.
4.Housing investment for young people.

Whataloadofpiffle · 02/06/2024 15:06

Shorten the NHS waiting lists

roarrfeckingroar · 02/06/2024 15:08

For women to be protected by clearly defined status - adult human females.

Repeal of the gender recognition act would be ideal.

An acceptance that there is goodness in Britishness. We shouldn't have to be apologetic for our country, history, values.

Otherwise, just some calm, some peace, some sensible policies aimed at helping people. No huge tax rises.

PocketSand · 02/06/2024 15:50

Make employers pay for their workforce - ie stop in work benefits. They appear to benefit the individual claimant but actually benefit the employer. Low wages topped up by benefit payments allow wages to remain low, increase the cost to the state and exacerbate income inequality.

PocketSand · 02/06/2024 15:57

Also tax wealth and not just income. Inequality is increasing - the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and this is having a huge impact on well being and national finances. The already rich are living their best lives whilst the state picks up the pieces.

parkrun500club · 02/06/2024 17:39

I thought of something else today. A law which requires proper provision of public toilets, including accessible toilets/Changing Places, and stop councils closing them all the time.

I know they get vandalised, so they could be open 7-7 or something like that, and maybe shorter hours in the winter. But it would be a big improvement on the situation now.

All that said, I think we have better provision than some other European countries.

Cattery · 02/06/2024 23:08

Honesty

pizzaHeart · 02/06/2024 23:10

chillymorns · 25/05/2024 16:21

Whoever they are.

I want -

A better management and investment in key areas of the NHS

Cheaper utilities

More money for disabled people and their families

More tax on those earning over a certain %, so maybe those on £100k plus being taxed a bit further

Cheaper railways being introduced

Better investment in local facilities

Please share yours Smile I voted Labour last time and will do so again. The Tories just need to be gone, and I'm not convinced those with any sense will say otherwise

You are reading my mind. Agree with all these^