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Year 12 #1 - GCSEs are sooo last year!

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bpisok · 31/10/2018 12:38

New thread to see us through to Christmas?

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pannetone · 27/11/2018 16:24

Sorry Oratory credited what you said to Cherryburn by mistake Blush

TheFirstOHN · 27/11/2018 16:43

The head of Y12 included a slide about flipped learning in his talk for parents earlier this term, and I got the impression that most (if not all) A-level teaching is planned this way. They only have 4 hours of timetabled contact time per subject per week, and they believe that this is the most efficient way of using that time.

DS2 has eight different teachers (two for each subject); I haven't asked him how much each individual teacher actually fully commits to the flipped learning process.

TheFirstOHN · 27/11/2018 16:45

In your DS's case, it sounds as though there might be an issue with the teacher's understanding of what he or she is meant to be delivering during the lesson.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 27/11/2018 17:46

DS3 has just told me his school isn’t ‘cool enough’ to do flipped learning! Grin

Still haven’t got his SMC score but he’s found out he’s the only Y12 to get into the kangaroo along with 4 Y13s out of 80ish taking it in total. So he’s got gold at least (and best in year.) The only reason he’s been told is that it’s on Friday and the school has an inset that day. He’s going to go in anyway. Hopefully he’ll get an actual result eventually!

bpisok · 27/11/2018 18:39

Hi all!!!
I didn't realise that the name 'flipped learning' existed by it's def the way DDs course is 'taught'. She loves it. She is doing essay based subjects so the lessons are all about debating and talking 'around' the subject rather than listening to a teacher telling them something they are quite capable of reading for themselves.
...as for first loves and break-ups I can remember the boy was called Dave and we went out throughout the lower 6th but I can't for the life of me remember his surname, where I met him or why we broke up - so the pain obviously passes hahaha

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LooseAtTheSeams · 27/11/2018 20:03

bpisok I did a version of this last lesson with my Access students but I didn't realise it was called flipped learning! It did mean that they were much better at the discussion part so I will definitely use it again. Takes a bit of planning ahead but worth it to avoid those long, agonising silences!

AlexanderHamilton · 27/11/2018 20:08

The thread has dropped off my list!

Not much to report. Dd was home at the weekend. Seems happy. Ds is in week no 3 of shows with an audition on Sunday.

And whoever said my ear drum might have burst and I should stop the otomise you were right. I have a small perforation. I can’t hear anything in that ear at the moment and I have antibiotics (but no pain)

Dd went to Birmingham for her physio today also.

TheFirstOHN · 27/11/2018 20:25

DS2 had a progress test in Chemistry, made up of past A-level questions on the topics they've done so far.

He got A* (93%) which is reassuring as Chemistry is the subject he was less certain about.

KingscoteStaff · 27/11/2018 20:29

DS had dress rehearsal of school musical today - he has shows every evening this week. He’s discovered that his cunning plan to do some work/reading in the pit is doomed to failure - not enough room and the gaps between songs sren’t long enough! I have emphasised the need to find a quiet working space between 4 and 7...

TheFirstOHN · 27/11/2018 20:38

KingscoteStaff that is tricky - the orchestra pit is not the most conducive place to do quiet studying. Plus he needs to be ready for his next cue.

I've forgotten what subjects he studies, but flashcards might work for learning that has to be stop-start.

DS2 is performing ten pieces in two evening concerts this week. Sadly none of them are the pieces he is supposed to be practising for his exam.

Oratory1 · 27/11/2018 21:23

Yup ds too stated ‘well we may have hit the first week when I question 4 a levels’ with music rehearsals, drama rehearsals and revision for tests all competing for time

Oratory1 · 27/11/2018 21:23

Amazing marks thefirst

BlueBelle123 · 28/11/2018 08:01

Another great result from thefirst Smile

I've never heard of flipped classroom before.......I can see for the more able student it would be a good way to learn but for others it could result in hours trying to get their head around science concepts before it is then explained by the teacher........I guess it would be more suited for everyone in the humanities.

KingscoteStaff · 28/11/2018 08:23

DS is doing all Humanities (Eng Lit, Hist, Politics, Philosophy) and always seems to be assigned articles to read/podcasts to listen to/documentaries to watch before discussing a topic in a lesson. Is this flipped learning? Certainly far nearer to what I experienced at university than what we did in the 6th form. He says they never have a session where they know nothing and the teacher tells them everything.

This has also given him a revelation that certain boys who he perceived as being naturally brilliant at GCSE may just have been keeping a few pages ahead in the text book!

LooseAtTheSeams · 28/11/2018 08:50

I'll have to ask DS what they do at his sixth form. He's also busy with music at the moment - two rehearsals at school today and one this evening.
He's definitely dropping one of the four at the end of the year!

bpisok · 28/11/2018 08:51

Kinsgscote - DD said the same about many of the 'bright' kids in her classes too. She was shocked that many of them knew the 'what' of the subject they had read in the text book before the lesson, but couldn't work out the 'why' and deduce how things were interrelated during the debates. Her suspicion is that their GCSE results (in some cases) were achieved by solid hard work and regurgitation of taught facts as opposed to 'intelligence'. Perhaps that's why they describe A Levels as a massive 'step-up'? Either way she also said the style of lessons were really helping....so the flipped learning (now we know what it's called) was really beneficial but involves lots of self study time. So all good here in bp land.

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AlexanderHamilton · 28/11/2018 10:05

As I may have mentioned before dd is actually self studying one A level with a weekly tutorial. She is really enjoying it.

whistl · 28/11/2018 10:19

Dropping into the thread again. AH just read your last post - I don't think I've read that before, but it is really impressive! Which one is she self-studying?

AlexanderHamilton · 28/11/2018 10:40

RS (Philosophy & Ethics)

Oratory1 · 28/11/2018 12:35

I think you said your dd won’t go to uni (or at least not in the conventional way) but it sounds like she s building a great cv and getting used to being independent which will stand her in good stead whatever she does next. Ds is the opposite with 6 lessons in each subject pw and in a boarding school bubble !! But then he is definitely a late developer and not an independent learner so I guess it’s horses for courses.

Oratory1 · 28/11/2018 12:36

DD2 is doing P&E at uni and the style is very much flipped learning

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 28/11/2018 13:23

Nice to see you whistl. Have you been away?

whistl · 28/11/2018 14:22

Just busy. I am working every waking minute, 7 days a week at the moment trying to get an overdue project completed. The developer has let us down. T'is a nightmare!

The family are eating ready meals, DS1 is mid-exams, DS2 is being left to his own devices and all I do is work, glance up to find that Brexit is going from bad to worse and then go back to work!

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 28/11/2018 15:04

Gosh, sounds extreme, whistl.

I'm impressed by the voluntary self study, Alexander especially in a subject like P & E. My DS1 was kind of forced to self study his computing AS when their teacher was kicked out left in October of Y12. It takes particular sort of self motivated person to do it on your own. DS1 gave up computing after Y12 to concentrate on his other subjects which worked out well for him. He's still likely to end up working in software though.

AlexanderHamilton · 28/11/2018 15:17

She was going to do the AQA Philosophy & Ethics A level with her RS teacher acting as tutor and a mentor from another local school . However the RS teacher went on a training course with teacher from other local school and learnt the otehr school were switching to OCR RS A level which has a huge philosophy & ethics element and both teachers liked the structure of the syllabus more.

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