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Army girlfriend going through first 6 month deployment, UK edition

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MissTeacup · 14/04/2021 17:25

Hey, hope this is allowed but I’ve been Googling like mad to find some kind of UK military girlfriend support space or stories of people in Britain going through deployment for the first time. All I seem to find is American resources which have a very star-spangled skew (not dumping on their patriotism). The blogs I’m reading feel more like the US has a 'military lifestyle' culture which doesn't really translate in the UK (happy to be corrected if wrong).

My partner, H, was unexpectedly deployed after deferring studies and this whole army thing is completely new to me as when we met he wasn't full-time. For context, we are unmarried, have no children, and were not living together prior to him leaving.

Inspired by another forces girlfriend's helpful blog post linked in this slice of MN on coping with deployment (hey @Survivingasamilitarygf if you're reading! :) ) I thought I’d throw in my two pennies worth of what to expect as an army girlfriend / partner in the UK going through a first deployment. I can’t be the only one desperately scouring the web for a place to help stumble through this bonkers period of my partner's working life.

I don’t know much but I think if you're married to your service person and, or, have a family you might be able to travel with them depending on the operation / have a bit more structure of comfort from the military if you stay at home. Childfree girlfriend and boyfriend relationships don’t seem to be really recognised (have seen the phrase ‘just a girlfriend’ chucked about on some old milspouse forum threads Hmm) in the same way, but from what I understand the MOD is slowly crawling into the 21st century with new cohabiting rules for couples in LTR introduced in 2019.

H and I are close to a month into deployment (six weeks apart because of pre-flight COVID quarantine) but this is what I've picked up so far, in no particular order:

Schedules change all.the.time.
Dates, timings, placements - I have had to dig really deep and go with the flow in terms of plans, which pushes against my overly organised personality! It feels like sometimes the left hand does not talk to the right hand in terms of military operational logistics. Our time together pre-deployment was cut short by two weeks as his leaving date suddenly was moved forward. This felt catastrophic to me as it meant he missed my birthday and instead of 14ish days of making the most of being with each other, it was all crammed into any day we could get. However, this is his current chosen job and the nature of it will always come first, just try not to take a change of plans as a personal affront to your specific wants (a small self-pity wallow is allowed Wink ). For us, the new date happened all so fast which meant I pushed myself not to marinate in my sad disappointment for too long as we felt it was important to focus on creating happy memories before he left. The silver lining from my perspective was the sooner he goes, the sooner he'll come back. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

The military
I am not from a military family (bar a granddad and a great-granddad serving distant stints in Korea & WW1 that I know of), nor do I live near a military base, have any friends or friends' partners in the forces. My life had been directly untouched by the military until I met my boyfriend. He left the army full-time sevenish months prior to us getting together, but continued as a reservist locally and started a course to help his career beyond the army. I thought "great", in the first flushes of our romance, "I didn't want to date someone who might get posted away from me at the drop of a hat and it's nice he has a hobby.".....Anyway, being with him has really shined a light on my naive ignorance regarding the armed forces. Asking him questions about his job, what he's done, how things works, and what Sandhurst was like has genuinely broadened my limited perspective towards the armed forces. Also, you can look up what deployment operations the MOD is currently running on their publicly available website and learn a little more about it, which I thought was interesting.

You & your own lovely life
I would say this is probably the most vital patch of green grass to water while deployment is going on. I was single for years before H and feel very strongly about curating my own life outside of being in a couple so I find slipping into a 'me' mindset easy, but I know it can be hard for some. Make your life as full and exciting as possible with things to do (lockdown be gone!), setting goals, and looking after you. Brunch with pals? Book it now. Want to get into running? The couch to 5k app is brilliant. That tourist attraction you've always wanted to visit but they didn't? Go see it, moaning partner-free. Feeling brave? I promise you there is nothing that feels more glam and sophisticated than playing the mysterious, but well-dressed, 'table-for-one please' diner eating alone in a busy cool restaurant. Working on you and your life will not only help your separation go by faster as your calendar gets busy, but it gives you stories to talk about with your partner when you catch up, increases confidence in doing stuff alone (very sexy), and you’ll feel happier overall which will make them happier (unless it does the opposite then run. Red flag! Red flag!). With all that being said though, give yourself grace when those feelings of missing them bubble up. Yesterday I did not pine but today has been tough, despite taking my own advice by having a socially distant coffee date with a pal I hadn’t seen since the panny-d started.

Keeping the relationship alive
Bit rich coming from me as we’re only just out of the deployment starting gate, who knows what could happen in three months time! The easy answer here is to get creative and make the most of what technology has to offer in terms of exciting your partner (two-way street though, make sure you are getting yours!). However, the hot and heavy stuff is one facet of a relationship, incorporate other fuzzy coupley things like a virtual date night if possible, sending care packages, and maybe going old school with writing letters to each other. I’ve done two of the things mentioned so far and it’s going okay. Might report back with more ideas.

Communication
Goes without saying to stay in touch. H and I have made a pact to get in contact every day, even if it’s just an emoji (ahh, modern love). I’m busy, he’s busy, we’re on different working schedules (although thankfully only one-hour time difference), and his wifi isn’t always great. I don’t expect to be chatting on the phone with him for hours before bed or constantly messaging throughout the day. At the moment, we’ve struck a communication balance we’re both happy with, chatting every other day on the phone and then every other phone call a video chat. But this could all change further down the line so we’re open to keeping our communication frequency as fluid as possible depending on what we’ve each got on our respective plates. One tip I will impart is to make phone calls over messaging your primary form of communication (sorry to Gen-Z readers recoiling in disgust). Tone of meaning gets lost in text, and hearing your partner’s voice, laugh, sighs, word inflexions, even (non-COVID) coughs will bridge the physical gap just a smidge more. A voice note would be a good compromise if the immediacy of phone chats are too cringe.

Post
I had no idea there’s a British Forces post office until a few weeks ago. Did you?! It’s like a whole hidden world (except it’s not actually hidden) I had no idea existed which transports your beautifully written letters and thoughtful care packages to your service partner on deployment sometimes FOR FREE. Subject to whatever operation they’re on and the size/weight of what you’re posting you can send stuff for nothing. This gov website www.gov.uk/bfpo is really helpful (obvi there are restricted items, take a good look at that), so go get that BFPO number from your honey and treat yourself to a pretty personalised letter set.

Trust & honesty
To be transparent, the trust in our relationship could not have been in a worse place the week before H left for pre-deployment quarantine. Crossed boundaries and lies by omission on his side came to a head literally days away from his departure. I flip-flopped on whether or not to end it with the deployment serving as a clean cut, break it off while he was away while maybe being open to us getting in touch when he came home, or stay together taking each day as it comes and slowly build trust back up again. At the moment I don't regret going for option C but it's early days yet and I could be kicking myself come the other side of summer. It's no secret the military has a reputation for being rife with infidelity on both parts of a couple navigating an armed forces job somewhere in the mix, but a shitty person is a shitty person. An occupation does not define someone’s behaviour IMO, their actions and character do. I’ve chosen to be with H so I am choosing to trust him and vice versa. With that trust comes an expectation of total honesty from each of us to the other, e.g. rationally voicing if we are feeling a little neglected or telling them an ex popped over to say hi while you were out with mates etc. Nonetheless, I get there’s a fine line between honestly expressing stuff going through your head which a partner would hear almost day-to-day and not consistently being a mopey gloom and doom voice on the end of the line every phone call. Also going too far in the opposite direction suppressing feelings with an “I’m finnne” sounding like Maria von Trapp riding a sugar high probably not the best either. I’m waffling now, but point is to trust your partner and be honest to reinforce that trust. As simple as it is, you can’t stop someone from hurting you regardless of relationship seriousness and dealbreakers put in place, so no point worrying about hypothetical what-ifs if they haven’t happened.

I'm probably going to keep adding to this thread as new stuff crops up over the next five months and 1 week. Would love to hear anyone else's tips and advice who has been there and got the many deployment T-shirts!

OP posts:
MissTeacup · 23/06/2021 10:22

Just to update you all, H violated the trust once more and was caught using dating apps while away. Only made it halfway through deployment. Gutting as I couldn't wait to pick him from the airport in September and have spent months dreaming about all the fun things we were going to do together when home.

As utterly broken as I am, I can't forgive him a second time and have had to walk away for my own self-respect. I deserve better and he needs to sort out the insecurities which feed off of validation swipes from strangers. If a healthy, loving, and unconditionally supportive relationship wasn't enough to stop him from looking around for attention, nothing but professional help will.

@ChanCK good for you not putting your life on hold for a 'don't know'. I hope you have heaps of success focusing on yourself and doing on dates with new people who will fall over themselves to give you what you want.

@Survivingasamilitarygf your writing is amazing and I wish you so much luck with your blog.

xxx

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FlowerGirl03 · 01/07/2021 15:41

@MissTeacup, I found your post after countless searches. I can’t tell you how relieved I felt when I did. But when I read your last comment, I suddenly stopped thinking about myself and felt a tremendous amount of pain for you. I am in a situation where I am totally lost with what the right decision to make is with my fiancé, who is currently in the army. I understand the thoughts and emotions that come early on with military relationships and just how hard it is. To go through these and then to be dishonoured by the man you are doing this for must be a real smack in the face. I obviously do not know you or the entire situation, but I really hope that you are feeling positive and proud of yourself for knowing that you deserve far better than this. No one deserves that.

I remain desperate to talk to someone in a situation similar to mine, where I have to work out how to make my future work with army man. I work in London, with army man a couple of hours drive away. So we see each every weekend that we can. I have a career, which involves travel too (usually no longer than 3 weeks, several times a year). I have worked extremely hard to get where I am and I feel proud of my job. Just like my army man is of his. I love this man so much that I have considered leaving my career to be able to spend more time with him (move into SFA). I do not enjoy only seeing him on weekends, which isn’t always possible anyway due to exercises and my work. The problem is, I can be slightly stubborn at times. I am terrified of losing my identity and my life having to revolve around his career. If anyone is in a similar situation, or has any advice, please help!

ChanCK · 01/07/2021 21:09

@MissTeacup I am really sorry to hear about your situation. How are you feeling now? I just cannot comprehend why a guy would go behind his loyal partner and cheat on them while deployment. I actually just went on a date with an American guy in the AirForce last week (he is in the UK for an assignment) he told me it is very normal for his peers to go on date while on an overseas assignment. I am shocked to hear his stories.

I still maintain a friendly relationship with that guy, he contacted me when he was in London last week and we went to dinner. I actually much prefer this as he knows he cannot commit at this stage of his life, so he doesn't want to waste my time. I actually respect him for saying that now.

Let's keep each other posted xx

Missingmymilitaryman · 22/10/2021 09:24

Hi all,

Newbie here but strugglingggg 😂. Your thread was exactly what I needed, thank you for opening up. Gutted for you @MissTeacup and @ChanCK. I hope you’ve both come through the other side 💙.

Background: My man, S, and I have been together 4 years and I know he’s my one. From the moment I met him I knew. He’s my soulmate and in Civvie life we were utterly inseparable and hopelessly, sickeningly in love. I’m young (20 and nearly 20 + 1) but I’m not naïve and I know that what I have with S is rare and to throw it away would be dumb.

I’m new to being a military g/f as he’s just started basic training. Even before he met me he decided on the military and I’ve always known it was what he wanted throughout our relationship. I just never thought he’d actually go lol as he had issues with facing his fears of failure by potentially discovering that the military wasn’t for him. Well now he’s gone and I’m not sure what I’m doing anymore. Pretty much everything reminds me of him which is tough.

Since the beginning of our relationship, we built a life with each other in our heads. We had like a picket fence dream of marriage, house, career, child and building a farm or our own business together. He has to commit to a minimum of 4 years service very soon but he’s talked about serving 8 years before which terrifies me. He’s always said that the Army isn’t going to be his entire career but I’d be naïve to believe that if he really loves it. I can barely talk to him at the moment to gauge this, which is genuinely fine as he’s busy doing his job, but we do need a proper conversation. I don’t even know if he has already had to commit and hasn’t told me yet.

Currently I’m grieving the loss of this life because we can’t have it for at least 4 years if not more. For the sake of argument, I’m assuming he will commit/ has committed to 4 years. For 3 of these 4 years I’m doing a degree which keeps me busy but whichever regiment he ends up in, at best, his closest potential base is 2 hours away. At worst he’s 4 hours away. I’ve explored houses in a half way point for us in the close base but they’re just too expensive to buy and not what we’re looking for at this stage. To be fair I haven’t looked at rentals yet which may be more viable. As a student though, money isn’t exactly lying around even with a job.

Anyway, we’re going to have no time together and I’m terrified that it will end the relationship we’ve spent so many years and tears growing. Even if he has a weekend off, I might not be available due to my degree. I’m terrified of deployment and that he’ll be killed and I’ll lose him. After my degree I may be able to find jobs near him and we can go from there but 3 years waiting is a very long time.

I’ll be 24 then and if he signs up for more years where does a family fit in? Will he still want me then? I’m catastrophising so much but I’m trying to work out how to protect me, my heart and the life I want.

Anyone else able to relate? Thanks guys xx

Littlemisblueeyes · 09/11/2021 11:46

Hello,
Not sure if anyone replys to this post still but I've literally started talking to a guy over a month a go. He is in the army and got deployed few weeks ago. We used to talk every day and we have facetimed afew times too. until a week a go where no communication. I understand that he has a job to do and I respect that. I want to give him space. I'm just wondering if this is normal and how long can no communication go on for as he is deployed for 6 months but has R&R over Xmas. We spoke about meeting when he has his break. This is my first time speaking to a guy In the army and he got deployed 3 days after speaking. He asked me to wait for him and give him a chance but this is driving me crazy lol im trying to keep busy but I guess I enjoy hearing from him mainly cus I know he is safe. He goes on WhatsApp every day but I know he has a group chat on there with the rest of his army buddy's. Just wondering if this is normal with no communication for this long? I've sent him messages and he hasn't read them.
Many Thanks, Laura xx 😊

Rokita2021 · 25/01/2022 18:48

I've literally been searching for someone ina similar position (not married, no kids) but there is nothing! My partner is set for his first deployment and because he's navy it will be 6 months no contact from him and I'm properly stressing about it, we are planning to move house and might have to do it alone. If anyone is or has been in this position any advice would be great😊

Amblu81 · 26/02/2022 08:00

With everything going on in the world right now I thought I might bump this post up.
The feeling of someone you care about going off on a training exercise somewhere is nothing like the impending issues. Currently feel like I have been punched in the stomach and our relationship has barely had the chance to get going!!! I have no idea how you ladies cope.
Maybe we can all update each other

LP2022 · 04/07/2022 21:01

HI Laura how you? I'm interested to know how things are going now? I'm in your exact same position now. 5 weeks in and he's just been deployed. Complete new world for me. We've gone from speaking every day all the time to a few one minute calls here and there and a few texts that mostly just say hi and I'm busy. This is tough because I'm falling deeply for him and I want to see it through. Things always changing such as dates however after reading some of the other posts I have found some comfort in knowing that is normal. Its hard for your mind not to go adrift wondering whats reality and what isn't because all such a new world. I pray he is my future husband and all works out. Be great to hear from you and other ladies xxx

LP2022 · 04/07/2022 21:03

P.S also same thing with whats app which caused abit of friction cause thought was speaking to someone else.

Ebee19 · 10/07/2022 19:44

Hi all,
I thought I would just jump on here. I am in a relationship of 4 years with someone in the RAF. He went in at 6 months and it really put the brakes on our relationship but we have kept going. It is ok as long as my life can revolve around his. My brother was in the army and I always promised myself I wouldn't be a military wife, but hey I fell in love and I do like a lot of the values, it's his dream and his colleagues are lovely!
I did see the messages about texts and such which have come in recently. We haven't had a deployment (yet) but lot's of training - I literally did not hear from him for weeks at a time, then on others he phoned at midnight or 1am each night (which totally ruined my sleep pattern even 3 years on). He quite simply said sometimes they don't signal and other times it is so tough you don't want to hear from home.
I also saw about people saying they have to stay in 4 or 6 years. He told me it would be 6 years and he would leave - which was vital for me as I didn't want to be a military wife especially with children as I am disabled. However, quite simply since he has been in the goal post keep changing - maybe 6, maybe 8, maybe 12. But there are more posts which allow them to work from home now, which is a bonus.
The relationship has had a huge effect on me and not all positive, so I will be joining the facebook group above. Thank you for OP for creating this thread - I am so sorry to read about the outcome for you after all your effort and hope you are happy now with someone new xx

alotoftutus · 16/08/2022 23:51

Hi ladies,

I've not read all the comments but thought I'd offer my support. My husband is an officer and he's done 10 years - our baby was born whilst he was in Afghan. It can definitely be rough.

The Facebook group U.K. forces WAGs is a good community for those needing to chat. (Hate the name of it but love the group). Happy for anyone to DM me if you are struggling xxx

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