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Forces sweethearts

If you have a family member in the Royal Navy, RAF or army, find support from other Mumsnetters here.

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I'm stirring it a bit but have you seen?.......

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vintageteacups · 28/02/2011 18:58

I know I'm being a bit naughty but there's a current thread on AIBU about whether forces personnel should be allowed to go into fast track teaching degree ahead of civvies.

Gosh - some people have a very unrealistic view of what serving personnel are like!

here

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Guacamole · 28/02/2011 19:08

From what I've read most of them don't have a clue...

Some of the comments are ridiculous!

Grabaspoon · 28/02/2011 19:11

I am quite shocked at some of the comments.

But after hearing a couple of years ago from 2 christian ladies at a church thing that soldiers are more or less all from care homes I'm not too shocked these days :(

CaveMum · 28/02/2011 19:23

I'm trying not to read it any more, some of those comments have made me see red!

No doubt of course I will be back!

Guacamole · 28/02/2011 19:29

Valhalla is particularly annoying me, she is trying to justify every ridiculous comment by stating it's with regard to my children.

"- blinkered view but bottom line - military personnel are generally contracted to:
A. Do as they are told without questioning it (I'm speaking of adults here of course, not of the expectations reasonably made of schoolchildren).
B. Kill.
C. Risk being killed.

Now oddly enough and rightly or wrongly I don't want people waxing lyrical to my children about those things. I don't want my children beinbg taught by someone in a position of authority that this is an acceptable career or lifestyle for them. No more than I want them to be taught that it's acceptable to kick puppies.
In my world these things are immoral. It is my duty to teach my children morals, not someone else's to go against all that I believe."

I didn't realise we had so much choice on the lifestyles of our educators?
Here's me thinking this is about teaching Physics, Mathematics, German whatever... Apparently not?!

jenga079 · 28/02/2011 19:31

Damn, I was trying to ignore it (got into a bit of a stand off with a bitch of a mumsnetter about the armed forces in a recent thread) but now you've mentioned it I may need to go have a peep.

I'm looking forward to the programme though; should be interesting.

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vintageteacups · 28/02/2011 20:30

on now!

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scaryteacher · 28/02/2011 21:45

I've recorded it for tomorrow morning with a coffee.

MrsSnaplegs · 28/02/2011 21:53

I have seen the thread but holding my tongue/ fingers! Have just caught the end of the programme and have found the thread really insulting from some of the comments. Trying not to rise to the bigotry on there.

OfflineFor30Seconds · 28/02/2011 21:57

I know MrsSnaplegs, why is it that any thread that involves a discussion about anything forces related degenerates into uninformed anti-military spouting? It's so disheartening.

penguin73 · 28/02/2011 21:59

I got dragged in! I am stupid, please don't let me loose on AIBU again.....(drags self to bed with cocoa)

CaveMum · 28/02/2011 22:01

Just been speaking with DH on Skype: I told him about some of the comments on the other thread and he laughed! He signed off with the immortal line "Seeing as I'm a thug I'd better go and smash some things up!"

OfflineFor30Seconds · 28/02/2011 22:04

Well Penguin73, I was applauding you from the comfort of my sofa. Or does that make me a dim sycophant too?

jcscot · 28/02/2011 22:06

Am banging my head off the desk in frustration at some of the bigoted rubbish being spouted.

I especially resent being called "dim" simply on the hypothesis that I am a Forces wife ergo I am dim. QED.

Bollocks to that.

scaryteacher · 28/02/2011 22:08

Well, as I pointed out to Valhalla her kids will come across far worse than being taught by an ex-military person.

I nearly rofl'd at LDN - the Teachers Channel (I presume she meant Teachers TV) was sooo good they withdrew it. Who had the energy to sit and watch it after a day teaching and then with hours of marking and planning to do? Not how one learns to teach!

OfflineFor30Seconds · 28/02/2011 22:09

I don't know about you, but I lost the ability to speak 4 languages, hold a professional qualification and my masters from Oxford disappeared as soon as I married DH.

Honeydragon · 28/02/2011 22:11

Dh is no longer in the Forces but thankyou for confirming my instincts not to look at that thread

Guacamole · 28/02/2011 22:17

I'm not a forces wife and I'm livid for you. I'm a forces daughter and sister and am extremely proud of my father, mother and brother (all Army) and found the thread upsetting. I'm not going to look at it anymore!
Well done honeydragon for avoiding it!

jcscot · 28/02/2011 22:17

I'm afraid that I was so dazzled by my sparkly engagement and wedding rings that I failed to notice that when I was signing the register, I was also signing a consent form for a lobotomy. Silly me!

I've met lots of interesting women outside of the Forces. I've met lots of interesting women since I married my husband (either serving, ex-serving or married to someone who serves). I see no discernible difference in intellectual capacity between the average "civvy" wife and the average Forces wife.

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vintageteacups · 28/02/2011 22:47

the way of life may be very different (espeically if living on a camp) but the people are no different than the differences you may find between two 'civvie' wives.

I'm not going back tonight either - well maybe just a peek......they're being pedantic for the sake of it and it's making me so cross. First, off to make a

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TalcAndTurnips · 28/02/2011 22:48

i loked at the thred but as a navee wiff im to dimm to undastannd all the big werds wot they wos sayin.

Seriously though, I had to sit on my hands! I just didn't want to give the winder-uppers the pleasure of any more reaction than you brave ladies were already posting.

I just read those ignorant comments and thought of my dear, lovely husband and all his hard-working, dedicated colleagues, so far away from home and, and, and... took a deep breath. I will not allow myself to be upset by those words.

scaryteacher · 28/02/2011 22:50

'I especially resent being called "dim" simply on the hypothesis that I am a Forces wife ergo I am dim. QED.' No, she specifically said Army wives, obviously the rest of us are OK

Anyway, she wouldn't be asked to socialise with us anyway; we are far too intellectual for that sort of thing.

jcscot · 28/02/2011 22:51

I'm afraid I couldn't resist the urge to post (although I - barely - resisted the urge to be equally offensive in return).

The ignorance exhibited is breathtaking - I'm not talking about those people who have raised reasonable reservations about the scheme, I'm only annoyed by those people who've been trotting out the same old prehistoric tired cliches about Service personnel and their families.

jcscot · 28/02/2011 22:52

"Anyway, she wouldn't be asked to socialise with us anyway."

Nah - she wouldn't be allowed in the Mess (Officers, Seniors or Junior Ranks!).

victoriascrumptious · 28/02/2011 23:07

That, of course, is very important in your world Jcscot.

victoriascrumptious · 28/02/2011 23:10

No 'tired cliches' here

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