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campaign for free range chicken!!!!!!! Please.

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fordfiesta · 09/01/2008 17:22

Please check out www.chickenout.tv or watch Hugh's chicken run tonight at 2100 channel 4.
you can sign up for his campaign on the above address.... sorry dont know how to do the link.
If you have been watching the program you will know how important it is!
thank you.

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noddyholder · 09/01/2008 23:15

who am i insulting?I come on here to say what I think and I do.

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 23:16

Sigh.

Of course, we all have designer prams and flat screen plasma TVs and drive 4x4s.

If you can't win the argument lets turn on those we are arguing against. Let's not have a reasoned debate but a slanging match that trades personal insults and stereotypes. Typical Mumsnet.

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 23:17

oops - if you read my posts you'll see I actually have no idea of whether the meat I buy is organic/free-range at all - I just know it's not from the supermarket.

noddyholder · 09/01/2008 23:17

I am not to be taken literally it is the sentiment I am trying to get across

oops · 09/01/2008 23:17

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Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 23:17

Noddy, you sent me a Xmas package once. Would you have done that if you honestly thought I had all those material possessions?

I know you don't really believe that so why say it?

VeniVidiVickiQV · 09/01/2008 23:17

OMG - i forgot about courgettes - yes! They are prolific. Absolute BARGAIN garden plant. Produces dozens of courgettes on one plant.

MicrowaveOnly · 09/01/2008 23:18

Rhubarb..without the sarcasm..please explain why it is ok for a farmer to abuse animals because he has a low standard of living???

he can get another a job. No one is forcing him to build those bloody sheds and stuff them full of birds. No-one.

aviatrix · 09/01/2008 23:18

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 09/01/2008 23:19

I'm in a complete world of my own here arent I?

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 23:19

No oops, you do have a valid point. But you cannot force a nation to eat plants. You can change government and supermarket policy however and I believe that is what people should be doing, not targeting the consumers because we should all be able to eat what we want to.

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 23:19

ooooo I love courgettes - great for bulking out meals [grin[

aviatrix · 09/01/2008 23:19

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noddyholder · 09/01/2008 23:19

I am saying sacrifice the unnecessary crap for the moral good

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 23:20

yep definitely in your own little world their VVV

oops · 09/01/2008 23:21

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Heathcliffscathy · 09/01/2008 23:21

no you're not, i'm listening avidly vvv.

we've got herbs and roses growing in the garden.

i'm about to do a good life number on it though. it is smaller than yours, but still big enough (not for chickens but for lots of veggies i think

noddyholder · 09/01/2008 23:21

If I had known ANYONE had all those things I would send nothing

Heathcliffscathy · 09/01/2008 23:21

no you're not, i'm listening avidly vvv.

we've got herbs and roses growing in the garden.

i'm about to do a good life number on it though. it is smaller than yours, but still big enough (not for chickens but for lots of veggies i think

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 23:21

microwave - because that is his livelihood. Not just his but the migrant workers who tend to the hens. The government pay him more to intensively farm. So that is what he does.

If you are doing down the ethical issue, may I ask where you buy your clothes? What do you drive? We are all capitalist to some extent, you cannot dictate a standard of living to someone without looking at your own first.

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 23:22

yes but noddy - apart from my £15 on tobacco for my roll-ups (which lets be honest isn't going to buy that much free-range stuff is it????) I don't BUY any "unnecessary crap" - that's my one little "luxury" (not to mention sanity saver when the DC are doing my head in - 5 minutes down the end of the garden where I can't hear them scream.......oh sorry - lost track there ) and you and I both know that £15 a month for free-range meat isn't going to get very much....

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 23:23

Therefore Noddy, you know it isn't true that people have all these things and still bleat on about being poor. That's not a fair statement.

You are welcome to look round my house at any time. I'll even make you a brew!

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 23:23

(fairtrade of course)

Heathcliffscathy · 09/01/2008 23:23

£15 is 2 - 3 free range chickens

Lauriefairycake · 09/01/2008 23:23

I think its morally wrong to eat an animal raised in this way.

I eat chicken only when I can afford it (maybe once a month). I use the whole chicken and boil it for stock.

The rest of the time I eat vegetarian food (my dh is vegetarian).

Everyone in this house eats what's put in front of them - or they go without. At least one night a week we have beans and cheese on toast.

We have two chickens in our extremely tiny courtyard (for eggs)

Noone has a right to eat anything (just like noone has a right to designer clothes and fancy cars)

20 years ago meat was a luxury and people ate it once a week - chicken for Christmas was more usual.

This cheap food malarkey (did I really use that word) has forced us all to think that food should be cheap. Food should not be cheap as that means costs of unfair wages to workers and particularly farmers - food used to be the biggest expense after household.

Now the average family spends more on 'entertainment' crap than food. It is quite simply wrong, everything you buy is a political decision, from the £2 top in Primark to buying Nestle goods.

Our food budget is the right proportion of our income (low income), we take no fancy holidays, have a cheapy car and buy no gadgets

And we try hard not to exploit anyone by buying cheap shite we don't need.

We don't always get it right but we make a real fucking effort to go through this life causing as little harm as possible.

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