campaign for free range chicken!!!!!!! Please.

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Please check out www.chickenout.tv or watch Hugh's chicken run tonight at 2100 channel 4.
you can sign up for his campaign on the above address.... sorry dont know how to do the link.
If you have been watching the program you will know how important it is!
thank you.

but frankly i'd do roll ups and lentils as i think luxuries tha tmake you feel sane are important.

Then tell the government and supermarkets to stop paying farmers to farm intensively.

In fact, campaign against supermarkets and bring back local shops.

But don't hit out against the consumer.

It depends how much the issue itself bothers you.I don't smoke so I don't know but I would be prepared to give something up to stop that level of cruelty.

But you have to start somewhere..so i've started with food - cos its an easy one - you can just look at the label in the shop. Clothes slavery etc are harder and need more investigating, and yes ideally we should all do everything. But waiting for govnt to change things is an excuse to do nothing. One thing at a time...what next then?

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rhubarb honestly don't you realise that change HAS to come from the consumer???

But we as the consumer have to do it - cos we live in a capitalist free market economy

Yeah, campaigning against the government is of course what we should do, but the choice starts in our wallets

sophable why didn't I say that because that is what i meant

I'm poor, I eat well (you should see the size of my arse)

but sophable I don't want to EAT 2 or 3 chicken s (of any type) a month - I'd rather stay sane

Meat a luxury 20 years ago?? Hmm not what I remember - we weren't well off by any stretch of the imagination (in fact most of the bullying I was subject to at school was due to our lack of money) but we had meat regularly...

And food is my only expense (bar the smoking) after paying the bills - we don't have a clothes/entertainment/holiday budget.

If I didn't have to fork out £20 a week for dd to have two 45min sessions at the after school club, I'd be able to afford free range organic chicken! Believe me, I'd rather spend that money on food than subsidise the nursery owner's new 4x4.

Life is simply not fair and some of us have to sacrifice a little here and there. I do buy ethically whenever and wherever I can. I'm in a more priviledged place than most too.

Always free range and organic chicken and eggs in the Quat household.

Sometimes the cost makes me wince and I am well paid. We cam't blame people for thinking "well I am being wasteful if I do that...". I really think legislation is needed.

in the 70s and 80s when i was a kid, noodles and cheese was always supper on sunday night.

meatballs and rice (a tin of, i dread to think) one night.

potato pancakes one night (it's a polish thing)

one chicken went to 3 nights (first day roast, that was sunday) second day rissoles, third day stocky soup with noodles in.

so basically a can of meatballs and a chicken was the meat quotient per week.

Quat, simple ecomomics says if no-one buys a battery egg, the battery egg farmer goes out of business. Done. sorted.

no legislation needed.

sophable, do you honestly think that the consumer is still ignorant as to how animals are now treated?

They are informed, that's all you can do. Petitions and so on are good, but unless you get supermarkets and governments to change, then consumers will carry on buying the cheapest.

Yeah but cheap cuts of meat, who remembers having mince and potatoes (with lots of carrots in)

or a big pie??

But not a whole chicken or parts of a chicken - parts of a chicken are the ones that sell because have less time (or prioritise time differently) to cook so instead they buy chicken parts, bread 'em and serve 'em.

the whole way the ready meal generation do it is different (not in this house)

microwave - unemployment figures go up. More people on benefits. Less people eating eggs.

i totally disagree, the shock on the people's faces when they saw the chicken barn tonight let alone when they killed the chicken they'd named said it all.

people have NO understanding of what it means to eat meat.

i'm so glad that i've been fishing and caught my food and had to thump it over the head as it is only in that way that i've understood that meat is murder. and so if i choose to eat it the least i can do is make sure it lives vaguely ethically.

Actually think we are due for a huge backlash in the way we spend money - really think people are going to move away from cheap chicken and cheap clothes

totally convinced

1pm it is! Unless you fancy eating somewhere nicer... say that lovely Italian place in Crouch End?

Anyhoo.... off to bed! Will put the remains of my free range (I kid you not) chicken in the fridge ready to children's sandwiches tomorrow and for chicken soup which will also be made tomorrow.

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There's enough media coverage of it all now that I fail to see how anyone can still be ignorant of how they live and die. And I'm sorry to say that you'll still get ones who don't give a shit, like the guy who said he still eat one of those chickens.

Which is why, once you've educated the public, you turn to supermarkets and governments to change things.