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i am so SICK of this "natural goodness" "free from harmful chemicals" etc paranoid "health food" stuff, aaargh

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Fillyjonk · 16/04/2007 09:27

aaaargh

I am doing my shop online at goodnessdirect .

now don't get me wrong, dried mango and other actual food and so forth GOOD, its all this parnoia about chemicals that is getting me.

Eat good food cos it TASTES nice, not cos you think that otherwise insidious chemicals will do something bad

oh i desrve a flaming from the lentil weavers, I have broken rank, i am sorry, but aaaargh!

and don't get me started on ecos and their anti-radiation paint...

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Zeitgeist · 16/04/2007 17:03

I agree with Carmenere, I think there's a difference between just wanting to eat a plain carrot without any chemical crap on it and paying thousands for some dodgy guru therapy.

I found it a minefield with fish when pregnant...and still do cos bfeeding. Tuna good for omega 3 but bad for mercury

farmed salmon bad cos polluted...wild salmon and organically-farmed OK

ended up eating nothing but sardines and anchovies as they're small so less likely to contain mercury....does your head in...and when pregnant you feel so guilty, whatever you eat...

PinkTulips · 16/04/2007 17:04

in defence of vits dd will not eat veg or meat (not even hidden) and i'm under doctors oreders to get some into her as she's anaemic

Snaf · 16/04/2007 17:04

Well, I've just squandered £15 on some foul-smelling Chinese pulverised herbs for my acne, if anyone wants to feel superior to me this lovely summer's eve?

Go on, I can take it...

beckybrastraps · 16/04/2007 17:09

Ooh - I've got one for you Filly. My dh (sensible, ultra-logical engineer) is on the look out for a wart charmer. Apparently his family always had their warts (yuck!) charmed away by a (now dead) woman in their village. Mention homeopathy or other such 'alternative' therapies and he will give you a , but wart charming - now that's different.

Greenleeves · 16/04/2007 17:18

[actively shunning]

RubberDuck · 16/04/2007 17:20

Ta Daisy - will try and remember to watch it

I will come out and admit I have used homoeopathy very successfully (both self-prescribed and with a homoeopath) but don't really care if anyone else thinks it works or not as long as it remains available as an option.

I do think, though, that organic, environmentally-friendly, alternative are all words that sell well and are big business at the moment and as younger industries are probably less well-regulated than they should be

In fact, I subscribed to the Ecologist a few months back and have actually been turned more cynical as it's so agenda driven (well, duh, what did I expect ) and have noticed several areas of dodgy science to make it fit the article/agenda better. So something that was supposed to make me more environmentally aware has actually had the effect of turning me off a lot of it.

kks · 16/04/2007 17:27

I have to say i bought my baby yogurt yesterday and chose Yeo Valley Organiic because i saw what went in the other baby yogurts and didn't like it.

kks · 16/04/2007 17:36

I am into proper home cooked meals, i don't bother with vitamin tablets or anything. It does go over the top doesn't it though, someone told me yesterday that Ribena have to change all their labels because research has shown there isn't one drop of vitamin c in it.

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Fillyjonk · 16/04/2007 17:37

wow rd, -SNAP

am so much more cynical since subscribing to the ecologist

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Blu · 16/04/2007 17:43

yes - research done by young schoolgirls!
And yet they got away with it for generations!

Pruni · 16/04/2007 19:11

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RubberDuck · 16/04/2007 19:18

You might enjoy this link:

Penn and Teller: Water Banning Petition

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Fillyjonk · 16/04/2007 20:02

oh yes wtf is this reiki malarky?

i grew up in s steiner household so have a great tolerance for this sort of thing but really...these people shoudl be giving their money to a good cause, like Filly's Bike Fund, I think.

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Pruni · 16/04/2007 20:06

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Fillyjonk · 16/04/2007 20:07
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moondog · 16/04/2007 20:10

Oh I sooooooo agree.

Eat proper food (and learn how to bloody cook.)

Steer clear of processeed shit.

Exercise

Do something worthwhile

Errr...that's it.

£350 for that advice thanks.

notamorningperson · 16/04/2007 20:32

Don't know much about some of the stuff that people have been ranting about but I would like defend reiki a little bit! It can be a fab healing experience (when you're in the right hands) and it's really sad that there are so many fake healers out there spoiling it. Guess it's like anything though - each to their own.

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Fillyjonk · 16/04/2007 20:57

come on then, tell us why its not a con trick

am all ears

well not but, you know...

how on earth can it work?

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SaintGeorge · 16/04/2007 20:57

Agree entirely about supplements and the need to simply have a decent diet, but I would like to comment on other points raised.

Don't knock a lot of these therapies unless you have at least tried (or researched them) first.

I was incredibly sceptical about reiki but have been very favourably impressed. My mum is a Reiki Master and her clients certainly seem happy enough with the results. Treatments I have had myself (not done by mum) have sorted out some long standing health problems for me.

The same goes for Chinese herbalism. I have seen some amazing results when years of 'convential' medicine haven't helped.

As for crystal healing, certain stones have been shown to have a scientific explanation (magnetism for example) although the majority probably work purely by faith. So what? If someone has faith and the use of a piece of rock helps them then let them get on with it.

Yes, there are opportunities to be a cowboy and make a fortune by winching in the gullible and charging them ridiculous prices. That does not mean that the therapies and treatments themselves are useless. There are genuine practitioners out there who do a lot of good and help a hell of a lot of people.

notamorningperson · 16/04/2007 21:08

Thanks so much saint. You posted exactly what I meant. Wish there was a way for more people to get in touch with genuine healers. Filly I was the same as you and thought it was all crap until I had my first reiki treatment. But then my healer is genuine and fab and was happy to be paid virtually nothing or in flowers when I was pregnant and wasn't earning very much.

SaintGeorge · 16/04/2007 21:23

Please, call me StG or even George but never Saint. I am far from saintly, 'tis ironic see.

booge · 16/04/2007 21:32

Pruni, I have a friend who talks like that, I think it is a load of bollocks quite frankly but she is vulnerable so I let it pass. IMO many 'alternative' therapies are aimed at taking money from the vulnerable sadly, just like the psychic industries.

PinkTulips · 16/04/2007 23:46

my friends dad was a reiki healer and he'd taught my friend how to do some of it.

he worked on a bad rib injury i had and i swear to god it was so warming and felt so much better.

my friend also taught my dad and me how to see aura's and my dad still raves about it.... and he'usually thinks all that stuff is a load of nonsense.

can i just point out again that some people do need vitamin supplements despite a good diet. dd has a very healthy diet (confirmed by a dietician and doctor) but as she can't have wheat or cow's milk and refuses meat and alot of vegetables she does need to take vitamins as she doesn't get all the vits she needs from just fruit, w-f cereals and fish

PinkTulips · 16/04/2007 23:46

auras.... sorry pedants

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