Frozen

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I may get flamed for this but here goes...I'm struggling a bit with the whole Frozen obsession for girls as young as 3. Generally, I am really uncomfortable with Disney's portrayal feminine beauty and I worry about pre-schoolers being influenced by this. I don't think girls as young as 3 need love stories (whatever happened to Sesame Street?!), and cynically what I see driving this Frozen industry is a huge effort to turn our daughters into consumers of Disney products (Frozen hair clips, party bags, dresses, the list go on). I guess I'm uncomfortable on two fronts: I don't like what the Disney princess industry does to the self-esteem of very young children (boys as well as girls) and I don't think children as young as 3 should be drawn into this. Am I the only one? Anyone else with me?!

Repeating a bit of what's already been said, but my ds (almost 4) adores Frozen. We got it for him at Christmas because he loves the songs (I think they listen at nursery) and we watch it almost every weekend. He also doesn't watch adverts so has no idea of the level of merchandise available for this or other toy ranges. I don't shop with him much (because he makes shopping such a pain in the ass!) so he doesn't know the scale of what's available. He thinks the film is really funny, loves the snow monster, wants to be Elsa, and thinks the film is all about how being scared isn't good and that when Elsa realises her sister loves her, that makes everything ok. Song lyrics wise, I actually quite like them although I take some of the points about where the lyrics are a bit suspect, but it has no effect on my three year old because he doesn't hear them right and makes up his own! "The pasta's in the pan" for example in Let it Go (rather than "the past is in the past"). I quite like that recent Disney, Pixar and Dreamworks films have different levels of understanding for their different aged audience and don't believe my 3 year old is getting harmful messages about sexualisation and princesses. Although maybe that is different for an 8 year old girl, who has to deal with those influences from all corners of current media.

lol at alan, its REALLY grates on you huh

I love the Anna/Christophe love in (as chaste as it is). I love when she gets him his sledge at the end and their budding romance. And i LOVE when everthing defrosts at the end

Its a bit wrong to fancy a cartoon character, I know that

that said Elsa fucks me right off. I understand why, but she annoys me. Team Anna

Team Anna here too
She's imperfect, strong minded, makes mistakes, is a hopeless romantic and also has freckles - just like a normal person

If Elsa was born in today's society with her gift and upbringing (told to hide it and keep under control) she would be mentally unstable / depressed and/or sectioned. I feel sorry got Elsa in the film

I agree the 'hype' over this film is annoying - DD1 (6) has been to 3 Frozen themed parties in the last few months. When she was younger she was not bothered by dolls/princess and mostly played with Trains and Dinosaurs - later on (influenced by peers possibly) she got more into princess and girly stuff - but still enjoys other types of toys and is not that girly - she had a princess party for her 6 birthday but chose an old-school princess.

She does enjoy the movie Frozen, but is not that into her dress-up outfit or the few toys we have, we are going to see Disney on ice Frozen but that is also because she loves lce skating and has never been to a show. She thinks it is cool that Elsa has magical powers which the other princesses do not.

Her younger sister however is obsessed with the film and spends all day dressed as a princess, she truly loves Elsa and Anna, asks to watch the movie all the time and is only 2.6

I make sure with two daughters not to push the princess/pink thing too much and make sure we still watch Toy Story or Cars or Planes or play with construction toys and trains (unlike a friend who only has pink toys/dress-up and dolls for her girls), but some kids really love all that princess stuff and surely it is just a phase - one which I am glad my DDs are enjoying together (I am sure it will all be terribly uncool in a year or two!).

Personally I can't wait to take my DD's to see the live action Cinderella that is coming out later this year - looks fabulous!

My dd won't be seen in anything princess now so don't worry! It will pass. She is 9. And refused for at least 2 years.

Hi All,

My youngest DD (4) is totally addicted to Frozen, loves both sisters and totally gets the relationship. She loves it so much she spends any time she's allowed on the iPad watching YouTube videos of parodies, people opening and playing with Frozen toys(?) and people making PlayDoh clothes for the toys(??).

I'm all for strong female characters and I'm happy to discuss the merits of the film good and bad. But my problem is that when they’re on YouTube they’re only a couple of clicks away from stuff that I don’t want them to be watching. (I caught my eldest watching footage of Kamikaze planes flying into destroyers in WWII when she was looking for videos of Concorde for a school project.) I have a Wordpress blog and as such found a plugin that can aggregate YouTube videos. I have now set up a new website

www.allfrozenvideos.com

which is a hybrid Wordpress with just Frozen related videos and NOTHING else. There are updates daily, so anything that is posted on YouTube is mirrored onto the site. My youngest can now watch Anna and Elsa without me having any fear they could end up watching something inappropriate.

If you feel this would be good for you, please use it. Also if you would like me to set up another site with similar aggregated videos on another subject that your kids watch, I can. It only costs me about £20.00 and it’s pretty easy once you know how. (I'm also doing a barbie one.)

HTH.

Hate the film! My daughter first saw it at the childminders last year....and was frozen obsessed for about 2-3 months drove in insane! Her birthday party was frozen themed and I hate it! Luckily she's now lost interest and is back to liking ben & holly's little Kingdom and the gruffalo!

She does talk a lot of disney princess's and asks for random things but she's not as bad as some children I have met!

GoodGirl have you watched Frozen yourself?

I've never been a Disney fan but I do love Frozen. I can see why it might not be everyones cuppa tea, I just don't see what there is to hate about it?

Hello we’re sweeping this thread into our Films topic, but OP if you’re not happy please do let us know.