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I'm asking Keir a question about women's rights on 5 live - how to phrase it?

818 replies

JanefromLondon1 · 28/06/2024 09:12

I want him not to be able to give me the flannel that we have to be kind to the woMen. I want assurances that we do t have to share our spaces. I want to not sound like the very nervous person that am I!

Any help appreciated?

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NC1258 · 28/06/2024 20:30

Juist listened to Angela Rayner LBC talk linked above: https://x.com/WhatIsAWomanUK/status/1806677594802208900
Her final words are very telling...
"Transgender women's rights are women's rights".
Emphatically No!

Thank you Jane...what a role model for us all.

x.com

https://x.com/WhatIsAWomanUK/status/1806677594802208900

cavalier · 28/06/2024 20:30

We want a yes or no answer from Starmer for this question
“would you feel very nervous is a man with a penis walked behind your wife and daughter into a female only toilet. “? Yes or no ?

Yampy · 28/06/2024 20:32

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Offering up mine & every other woman's rights, fears that she doesn’t think are justified? 😡

CormorantStrikesBack · 28/06/2024 20:32

I was going to vote Labour but really don’t think I can after listening to that now. Really don’t know what to do because I can’t stand the tories and if people don’t vote Labour the danger is the tories get in again 🤷‍♀️

im so against labours stance on this issue. But I’m against the Tories on everything else. Sadly I think ultimately I will have to vote Labour. Maybe they will chuck women under a bus but the tories chuck everyone under the bus unless you’re a rich twit like them.

TheMarzipanDildo · 28/06/2024 20:32

ilovemyspace · 28/06/2024 20:02

@TheMarzipanDildo Also I voted for Starmer to be Labour leader

should you be admitting that on this thread ........ in public n evryfink! 😳 😂😂

‘Twas back in t’ day

and there was feck all competition, in my defence. And I thought he’d be like Kier Hardie because of the name.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 28/06/2024 20:33

SchoolQuestionnaire · 28/06/2024 20:24

This really.

I truly support trans women. I want them to feel accepted and included. I want them to be safe. But I can’t accept allowing trans women into women’s safe spaces.

I feel the same way about men. I want them to be accepted, included and safe. I don’t believe that most men are predators. But that doesn’t mean that I would be comfortable allowing them into a changing room with my teenage daughter.

I wish that trans women realised that we are their allies. If they were fighting for their own safe spaces most of us would be fighting with them. But they can’t expect us to put ourselves in danger every day simply to accommodate them, even though we do understand that most trans women don’t want to hurt us. The risk that unscrupulous men will take advantage is just too great and we need to protect ourselves.

Brilliantly put.

cavalier · 28/06/2024 20:33

cavalier · 28/06/2024 20:30

We want a yes or no answer from Starmer for this question
“would you feel very nervous is a man with a penis walked behind your wife and daughter into a female only toilet. “? Yes or no ?

Sorry answered my own thread lol

AnneKipankitoo · 28/06/2024 20:33

You were fabulous ,Jane.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/06/2024 20:33

UpThePankhurst · 28/06/2024 09:52

Please say he didn't weaponise that poor murdered child again as some kind of shield for his sexist wankery?

He did indeed.

cavalier · 28/06/2024 20:34

ifIwerenotanandroid · 28/06/2024 20:33

Brilliantly put.

I agree !

Devonbabs · 28/06/2024 20:34

cavalier · 28/06/2024 20:30

We want a yes or no answer from Starmer for this question
“would you feel very nervous is a man with a penis walked behind your wife and daughter into a female only toilet. “? Yes or no ?

Or, how would you feel if your daughter was alone getting changed in a swimming pool changing room, alone and another person walked in and stopped naked next up her. That person had a penis (because he was a man) - no one could say anything because he said she was a she. Happy with that wild side Keir? Is your daughter and wife?

TheMarzipanDildo · 28/06/2024 20:34

TheMarzipanDildo · 28/06/2024 20:32

‘Twas back in t’ day

and there was feck all competition, in my defence. And I thought he’d be like Kier Hardie because of the name.

KEIR

I have never once spelt that name right.

Runningupthecurtains · 28/06/2024 20:37

Jane bloody well done. I know you were nervous but you were glorious!

@ElleWoods15 were is the respect being shown to @IamSarah who has been left without rape counseling because she has asked for a female only group, not instead of the 'female gender' group (or indeed the male group and the trans group) but along side them?

Where is the respect shown to my nieces who are having to navigate their first periods in mixed sex toilets where they are having to wash their hands at central sinks next to boys?

Where is the respect for female athletes who are having their medals, their records, their scholarships and their places taken by transwomen?

Respect seems to only flow one way.

Thank you Jane. We need more people to press politicians on how they propose to keep single sex spaces while also telling men they can be women.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 28/06/2024 20:38

Respect is earned. Anyone demanding it should be setting off alarm bells.

cavalier · 28/06/2024 20:41

Devonbabs · 28/06/2024 20:34

Or, how would you feel if your daughter was alone getting changed in a swimming pool changing room, alone and another person walked in and stopped naked next up her. That person had a penis (because he was a man) - no one could say anything because he said she was a she. Happy with that wild side Keir? Is your daughter and wife?

Yep you said it even better !!!

Tiddlywinkly · 28/06/2024 20:44

CormorantStrikesBack · 28/06/2024 20:32

I was going to vote Labour but really don’t think I can after listening to that now. Really don’t know what to do because I can’t stand the tories and if people don’t vote Labour the danger is the tories get in again 🤷‍♀️

im so against labours stance on this issue. But I’m against the Tories on everything else. Sadly I think ultimately I will have to vote Labour. Maybe they will chuck women under a bus but the tories chuck everyone under the bus unless you’re a rich twit like them.

You could always spoil your ballot? I've done it on my postal vote

NC1258 · 28/06/2024 20:44

Women's right were hard won...often with their lives. Starmer and Raynor are disrespecting all of that.

WildFlowerBees · 28/06/2024 20:46

I've emailed my (Female) Labour MP and told her I will not be voting for her. That I cannot vote for a party whereby the leader cannot/will not identify what a woman is and by not guaranteeing safe spaces endangers us, erodes our identity and our hard won rights.

TamzinGrey · 28/06/2024 20:47

Jane you were absolutely brilliant. Well done 👏👏👏

FOJN · 28/06/2024 20:48

Yampy · 28/06/2024 20:32

Offering up mine & every other woman's rights, fears that she doesn’t think are justified? 😡

If she thinks women's fears are unjustified she will do nothing to reinforce the law to reassure us.

O2AreAShowerofShite · 28/06/2024 20:50

NC1258 · 28/06/2024 20:30

Juist listened to Angela Rayner LBC talk linked above: https://x.com/WhatIsAWomanUK/status/1806677594802208900
Her final words are very telling...
"Transgender women's rights are women's rights".
Emphatically No!

Thank you Jane...what a role model for us all.

Yes, they are STILL doubling down.

Despite hearing all the many reasons why many women are demanding their single sec spaces be kept single sex, they are STILL saying ‘fuck ypu, we’re taking them off you whether you like it or not’.

They are either as thick as shit and just as arrogant, or mendacious and acting in bad faith.

Either way, a party so captured by misogynist and homophobia philosophy at the expense of women and children is not fit to govern.

LarkLane · 28/06/2024 20:52

NC1258 · 28/06/2024 20:30

Juist listened to Angela Rayner LBC talk linked above: https://x.com/WhatIsAWomanUK/status/1806677594802208900
Her final words are very telling...
"Transgender women's rights are women's rights".
Emphatically No!

Thank you Jane...what a role model for us all.

I'm wondering if she ever did an equal pay claim back in the day.
Did she take the wages off the men in the factory to level up with the women like the employer suggested?
She probably would have thought that was A Good Idea.

What a socialist. Slow handclap from me.

She can truly feck off now,
I'm glad that I've spoiled my postal ballot.

RustyBong · 28/06/2024 20:52

You were incredible 🙏

verygrumpy · 28/06/2024 20:55

@ElleWoods15 "I’m talking about people with trans identities. You’re talking about people who would seek to abuse the system. Two very different things..."

Hey - you've got a way to tell them apart! Problem solved! 😂😂😂

Whatthechicken · 28/06/2024 20:58

I feel like @JanefromLondon1 has given us all a much needed moral and fighting boost. Labour will get in, but let's all try to be a little more Jane and make the candidates incredibly uncomfortable for the next week with their sneaky words. Keep asking those difficult questions. I emailed the sex matters questions to all of my candidates and only one has got back to me...it's really not good enough and just shows how little they care for women's concerns. Women Pulll!!