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Please help me respond to this idiot

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avat · 01/06/2024 19:26

I have been seeing someone (a man).

We got into a text conversation about the "not all men" rhetoric. I was explaining the statistics surrounding rape, domestic violence, trafficking etc. etc. And that no, it isn't all men, but it is all women who are at risk.

Talked about the gender pay gap etc.

He said he accepts what I'm saying but think the way I say it, means that men will reject the argument. That I'm seen as too radical.

I said, how do you think the suffragettes got the vote? By asking nicely?

He also said that I've stated the facts in a way that is posed to sway opinion.

He said that I have been patronising and made him feel like a dickhead. And not showed him any compassion, when he was just trying to help (?).

I said I can't believe I had expressed that women live in constant fear of being raped, killed etc. and somehow the conversation has ended up being about a man.

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Wellfancythis · 09/07/2024 08:47

@Sweden99 I think you owe me an answer.
Are you enjoying the low expectations of Denmark, where men are catered to because you cannot cope with women who will actually have their own opinion.

Sweden99 · 10/07/2024 06:55

@Wellfancythis Please, excuse the delay in replying.
I would actually agree with you in as much as my limited experience allows.
I am happily married to a Danish lady and (typically it seems) she would say I do plenty of housework, can cook. She would not say I am emotionally demanding. Indeed, I had a Danish girlfriend say I was stoic when ill, which earned her poison looks from women in Britain.
I had previously been married in an anglo-saxon marriage and the marriage counselling then was a stark contrast to the advice on MN. The Danish counsellor urged my ex-wife to help with the housework on a physical level and had no respect for emotional labour, she also seemed to disapprove of my ex-wife not accepting a job and was sympathetic to my feeling hurt at not having sex. ON MN I was pretty much called an abusive monster. But I think the UK is moving the same way and nowadays I would not get the same criticism from MN, indeed it might be her that got the criticism.

Runsyd · 11/07/2024 09:17

I said I can't believe I had expressed that women live in constant fear of being raped, killed etc. and somehow the conversation has ended up being about a man.

Have you met many men?

Wellfancythis · 14/07/2024 13:54

Sweden99 · 10/07/2024 06:55

@Wellfancythis Please, excuse the delay in replying.
I would actually agree with you in as much as my limited experience allows.
I am happily married to a Danish lady and (typically it seems) she would say I do plenty of housework, can cook. She would not say I am emotionally demanding. Indeed, I had a Danish girlfriend say I was stoic when ill, which earned her poison looks from women in Britain.
I had previously been married in an anglo-saxon marriage and the marriage counselling then was a stark contrast to the advice on MN. The Danish counsellor urged my ex-wife to help with the housework on a physical level and had no respect for emotional labour, she also seemed to disapprove of my ex-wife not accepting a job and was sympathetic to my feeling hurt at not having sex. ON MN I was pretty much called an abusive monster. But I think the UK is moving the same way and nowadays I would not get the same criticism from MN, indeed it might be her that got the criticism.

Misogynistic bile

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