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Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Cambridgebunz · 07/11/2023 09:26

Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

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Shortbread49 · 10/12/2023 12:38

I hope they did go on the train as it’s an amazing ride Ona steam train over the viaduct now in Harry Potter to malls it where you can get on the ferry to skye

WGACA · 10/12/2023 13:34

What is Mike’s Instagram account name please?

CloudybayOz · 10/12/2023 13:48

We can’t share on here. It will rightly have the thread pulled. This thread is not about him. He’s entitled to his privacy.

Raydt · 10/12/2023 17:17

She hadn’t tagged him either. I wonder why not. I’m assuming the ultra runner she posted recently is him.

Raffington55 · 10/12/2023 18:20

Raydt · 10/12/2023 17:17

She hadn’t tagged him either. I wonder why not. I’m assuming the ultra runner she posted recently is him.

I doubt he's on social media. She wouldn't write half the cringey shite about being in 'lurve', about coats on the stairs, being in a relationship (after a single date) etc if he was - he'd have read it all run for the hills.

How very strange, also, to write that huge post announcing "I am now in a relationship!" only to just post the man's shoes? What was the point of the relationship announcement exactly? I guess it garners an extra second of attention - which is what Liz lives and breathes for, poor thing. I don't know why, but I get the image of someone very Germanic who likely wears speedo- or thong-type pants. Posing pouch type things. Maybe it was the 1990s fur collared jacket.

Melszone · 10/12/2023 19:23

She made a thing out of going to Inverness then went to Skye?

Melszone · 10/12/2023 19:26

Oh and while falling in love with a MAN she forgot about the WOMEN in jail she was going to help until to realised not all were white, straight, Oxbridge educated and middle class. Oh and have no access to social media so can’t big her up. Perhaps one sent her a note in torn up newspaper letters, warning her off!!!

Perfectlystill · 10/12/2023 20:46

Notsolong · 10/12/2023 12:04

Her broken ribs are healed then.

I couldn't run for three months after I broke my ribs, and even after that time, only very short and slow runs as it still hurt.

Shortbread49 · 10/12/2023 22:42

Maybe she saw my suggestion to visit skye and changed from inverness

Rachealfar · 11/12/2023 09:07

She is certainly influenced by posts on here and T. Both sites are the majority of her followers. She seems to have lost her following of women victims of domestic abuse.

Umbrellaisback · 11/12/2023 14:19

‘I am no longer going to share anything about being a mother because S who? I’m on my jollies for weeks on end the media landscape has changed so much in the last two weeks since I was last at home year. (?) I am no longer going to share the scant great work I do for abused women from wherever I am on holiday online because I’m busy running marathon with no training.’

Okayyyy

Tortiemiaw · 11/12/2023 14:31

Oh my goodness. But I was enthralled and soooo impressed by the tireless efforts she's been making with abused women, like...er...that..thing she did and the other ...um thing...that was so amazing.

I'll miss the updates in so much detail about how she throws herself into helping women of all classes and creed, her understanding of poverty and domestic abuse and the outcomes.

Such a shame

OffendedScot · 11/12/2023 14:42

Do it, don’t say it Liz. Seriously now, long may you remain in love and he in love with you. Long may you do these great works for women that must have happened if you say so. I remember your long post from January 1 this year. Maybe next year you’ll achieve some of those things. Meanwhile Liz, mates before dates is a could ethos to live by. Mates more often than not ate for life. Dates, well, you know more about this than I do. I was at Mike and S’s wedding with my husband too. I’m still with him.

Shortbread49 · 11/12/2023 14:52

Would imagine she has been told to stop am assuming new men knows otherwise he might think it odd she is off on holiday all this time leaving young child at home

Raffington55 · 11/12/2023 15:29

In other words, on the DV work front she's just going to stop promising what she has no intention of delivering - same as for Edgeway. That must be a huge weight off her mind. It looks as though Scout might have been handed over to Mike now that Liz has a man - which shows where her priorities lie - but no surprises there. Mike and his family look to be making Scout so much happier - allowing her to be the child rather than the parent. That's lovely to see. As usual, everything single thing hangs on a man for Liz. This is another car crash waiting to happen. And Scout won't be anywhere in sight when the edifice crumbles.

Heatherfell · 11/12/2023 15:40

Yep. She’ll be back when this guy needs ripping to shreads.

RhinoRhino · 11/12/2023 16:35

So, another announcement today. I wonder if this will be the final one of the year.

There have been plenty this year, haven’t there? Probably at least one a month. I can’t remember all of them, but definitely there was the announcement of the founding of a publishing company to unsilence women; the novel which was going to be written; the writers’ retreats were finally going to happen this year; the submissions guidelines were to be published by the end of May, Flying Solo was going to launch something or other by September; a different novel was in the offing; there was the “I got the job” announcement in the summer – was that the Venice Hotel job or the Schloss Whateveritscalled in Austria(?); then the talks about DV to women prisoners … to name but a few.

I remember years ago Ms Fraser tweeting that her ‘special friend’ at the time (Mike, although he hadn’t yet been formally presented to YOU LOT, presumably because he was still married to his beautiful wife) advised Liz to “actually FINISH SOMETHING”. I imagine said tweet was an announcement that THAT was the year she was going to finish what she started. (Well, I guess she did finish SOMETHING that year. Hers and somebody else’s marriages.)

If she really is embarking on a reciprocal romantic relationship with somebody who is free and happy to fall in love then good on her. One of the main benefits of a break-up is that you are then free to find love with somebody else (without giving up your responsibilities towards family and friends, ofc). But I think there is more to life than trying to impress a potential suitor by besting him at his chosen passion. And by dropping everything else that was so important months, weeks and days ago.

I might be being cynical, but I cannot help thinking that the Mail online snooping around her profile will have given her pause to wonder about the wisdom of some of her posts. Either that, or there has been a (long overdue) family intervention, or maybe somebody now has it in their power to legally prevent her from continuing to live her version of her life out in the public domain.

Or is this yet another thing that won’t happen and she’ll be back before the end of the year?

Apologies for the Fraseresque capitals, but I kinda like them myself! 😂

NHSarah · 11/12/2023 16:36

Let's hope the NCDV takes the right action and terminates its relationship with her. As a midwife, I witness aspects of life that many don't see and cant imagine exists. These women must have confidence in organisations set up to help them and as medical professionals we need to know we’re directing them to places of safety. False promises and claims do not benefit anyone.

I see more than I should and it drives me to expose the women who purport to aid others while harming those who genuinely do. The recent stunt she pulled to discredit S's stepmother was a despicable move. S's stepmother is a truly remarkable woman dedicated to assisting other women. This must truly anger Liz and boil her bile.

She will never measure up to M’s partners before and after her, which underscores just how ill with addiction he must have been.

AppleBlossomTimeNow · 11/12/2023 16:44

Oh Liz. How lovely for you that you can walk away from the commitments & responsibilities other women have to deal with. As you re-invent yourself again as a sporty, got her shit together, not like other girls chick for the new man. How energising it must be to start so many things & then give up on them when they no longer serve your narrative & lifestyle. How you must hope that social media has a short memory for all the lies, grifting, 'poor me' posts about your imminent death due to a broken mind, body & spirit. How shuffling your kids off social media will make questions about your unconventional (absentee) parenting go away. How you can rise phoenix-like IN LOVE and TRIUMPH as your haterz back off & leave you to be the amazing 'girl' you are. What a shallow, immoral, self-obsessed, spoilt & self-serving idiot you are. I hope your vacuous new life of travel & running & writing bollox gives you all the satisfaction that playing the victim clearly didn't...mostly because everyone saw through your lies & called you out.

GinnyWoolf · 11/12/2023 17:35

Yep, I totally read her 'announcement' as 'I'm not going to talk about motherhood because actually I'm not doing much of it any more' and 'I'm not going to talk about my DV work because I'm not doing that any more either.' She's never held back from sharing controversial/difficult stuff before, so this announcement doesn't wash.

Notsolong · 11/12/2023 18:29

I suspect she is aware that she has a lot to address and stuff under that carpet if this guy is going to take her seriously as an athlete. Her mental fragility is as far from the typical profile of an ultra runner as is possible!

“Ultrarunning teaches us patience, grit, determination, and how to handle situations when they don’t go as planned. Everyday life doesn’t go as per plan; how we choose to handle it matters.”

“In one study, researchers glean from ultrarunners’ interviews that “mental toughness in ultramarathon running is the ability to persist and utilize mental skills to overcome the perception of physical, psychological, emotional, and environmental obstacles in the relentless pursuit of a goal.”

“The study determines that mental toughness helps athletes overcome physical and psychological distress, allowing them to maintain emotional control and stay positive in adverse situations.”

MademoiselleÉtoile · 11/12/2023 18:51

Okay Liz.
Thank you for the update, and looking forward with anticipation to the new chapters.
I am sure I have read your THINGS before, and I hope that I am not being too forward by saying I am confident that I already know the beginning middle and end.
What will stay with me is the most profound and moving (although not necessarily introspective) quote of your unwavering genius.....

"Some people are just C**ts!"

Grosses bises.

Raffington55 · 11/12/2023 18:53

I'm predicting a "Thank you you LOVELY LOT for your THOUSANDS of messages in response this"
very shortly on her stories or insta 🤣🤣😁

Physicsrevision · 11/12/2023 18:53

Well, this hiatus didn’t last long. In fact less time than the sisterhood predicted 😂

An untagged woman is photographed in the all too familiar Liz head lock! Of course, LF was star spotted 499 miles from home. Her coordinates must be wrong. Venice is surely closer to 1500 miles from Skye? 😉

Anyway, a new friendship is starting based on the shared interests and experiences of running, cycling and motherhood. I’d love to hear them
comparing notes on parenting 😂

Physicsrevision · 11/12/2023 18:56

@GinnyWoolf she too mentally tough to be a victim of DV.

This guy had better not say anything to annoy her or her DV joker will be played faster than he can run 100 miles.

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