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Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Cambridgebunz · 07/11/2023 09:26

Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

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Raffington55 · 20/11/2023 20:35

@thelisad 👏🏻👏🏻 Well said. Read that and weep, Liz.

Wrongsideofliz · 20/11/2023 21:00

@thelisad you sound the business. Welcome to the cleaning team. Btw, my man is hotter than yours, coz he is fire 🔥😜😂

LynetteScavo · 20/11/2023 21:04

This has all gone completely batshit. I vaguely know GlennB and he seems to have been sucked into this somehow. I have no idea if he is the person Liz is in a relationship now, but I doubt it. I thought they might have met on her travels earlier this year, but honestly I have no idea. In his defense he really isn't a bad person as far as I'm aware, and doesn't deserve any shit. He's left Instagram for now.

Raffington55 · 20/11/2023 21:18

I'm lost - what's the GlennB sitch?

Wrongsideofliz · 20/11/2023 21:18

Liz, here's some woman-to-woman advice: Stay extremely vigilant. No matter how physically fit your new man might be, there's no chance he's a decent man if he finds your vitriolic, quick-to-anger temperament attractive. Absolutely no chance.
I have a strong feeling that if this relationship exists, it's going to be bidirectional red flags to bulls. If I see anything from my side of the room, I’ll let you / him know, as applicable ;-)

thelisad · 20/11/2023 21:19

LynetteScavo · 20/11/2023 21:04

This has all gone completely batshit. I vaguely know GlennB and he seems to have been sucked into this somehow. I have no idea if he is the person Liz is in a relationship now, but I doubt it. I thought they might have met on her travels earlier this year, but honestly I have no idea. In his defense he really isn't a bad person as far as I'm aware, and doesn't deserve any shit. He's left Instagram for now.

I certainly haven't given him shit @LynetteScavo I haven't given anyone shit, apart from simply trying to open their eyes to the truth about LF. As we all do.

I think his post about taking a break from insta happened before he and I made first contact. But he's been online today and interacted with me, so I'm not sure what that means. Either way, I mean him no harm. I just wish that he'd be a little more discerning about which posts he makes sycophantic comments on on Instagram.

Thank you Cleaning Ladies of mumsnet for welcoming me. It's feels good to be here #womensupportingwomen 😉

LynetteScavo · 20/11/2023 21:35

@thelisad -I'm totally with you about opening peoples eyes. My eyes have, indeed, been opened!

The thing is, posters on these threads have offered Liz advice, which to some extent she's taken onboard. But then she shouts about trolls and randoms preventing the publication of women's stories and just makes herself look silly. She says it makes no difference to her and givers her more time to do other things like take photos of her feet/legs Duh, yes of course it does because setting up a publishing house is a full time job that you have to really dedicate yourself to. And if you're de not doing that you have about an extra 12 hours a day.

Apparently every time Liz starts something GOOD people fu k it up for her. Other people. There is a pattern here, according to Liz. It's never Liz's fault things doesn't work out, it's always because of other people, she claims. My own DD went through a stage like this aged 14 but thankfully grew out of it

Raffington55 · 20/11/2023 22:10

Raffington55 · 20/11/2023 21:18

I'm lost - what's the GlennB sitch?

Isn't GlennB @BiteMeSausage? Just realised. Haven't heard much about him in a while.

Waverleyst · 21/11/2023 00:24

Glen has been well and truly Lizzed! Liz drew him in, had a quick chew and hasn't even bothered to spit him out. The poor guy thought he was defending “his friend,” without realising that Liz is a friend to no one.
He knows nothing about her, yet I doubt I’m the only one who dipped into his instagram this evening and thanks to Liz throwing him under the bus, I now know a lot about a man I’d not heard of before and the state of his business. Meanwhile, Liz has moved on, leaving him burning if it suits her agenda.

Liz operates like a "Tinder Swindler." There is no friendship between her and her “friends behind the squares.” She lets them think there is. This is how abusers operate. Big Glen B, Bite-my-sausage, simpering Ade and the other men and some women that come and go mean nothing to her.
To Liz, these people are mere pawns in her game, “obey or I’ll leave you.” Glen and the other suckers have created versions of Liz moulded from the information she shares, a few pictures to maintain that persona and their desired perception of her. Im sure most following her do so with good intentions, viewing her as a woman who's triumphed over adversity or an athlete, with the added allure of occasional titillating photos from Liz's so-you-think-anything-goes-in-the-bedroom portfolio.

What they fail to see is the collateral damage we see. If Mike's ex-wife were Glen B's or Ade’s sister, or if their sisters found Liz Fraser's hairbrush in her bathroom, or if their wives gave money to Liz to feed her children only to discover she spent it on champagne and holidays, Glen B and Ade would not be defending Liz Fraser I hope, but agreeing with @thelisad.

For a long time, Liz has managed to silence anyone who gets close to revealing the truth. We know this. Many in this and the tatttle group have had their accounts blocked. However, Liz snd Glen B got more than they bargained for taking on @thelisad!

Liz accused the wrong woman of being a troll there. Choosing to tarnishing the wrong woman's name and profile across the internet. Lisa did what any woman has the right to do, something Liz theoretically encourages—she spoke out and defended herself when attacked. Glen B chose to keep dancing with the devil. Perhaps Glen doesn't understand the ethics of being a woman and it's questionable whether Liz does. Alternatively, Glen might not be as genuine as he appears, thinking that if he flatters Liz enough, he'll win ego strokes. He won’t, although he does fit her type, a bankrupt photographer with a slightly disheveled, creative look, and younger than Liz.
Maybe Glen isn't aware of this group or simply doesn't understand why so many strangers have come together. It's not to randomly pick on Liz every time she has a hare-brained idea. Neither he nor Liz seems to grasp that when one woman faces adversity, others rally to her support. Feminism aims to ensure an equitable path forward.

A slight aside, but I do feel sad and actually quite concerned for Ade and what it will do to him when he realises Liz isn’t who she thinks she is and she doesn’t give a damn about her. Recently widowed, from his profile, he’s clearly very lonely and alone. Needing to feel needed. He interacts with lots of needy women on Twitter, like Liz, the sort most women can see straight through. I have the most awful feeling that he’ll hand his life savings over to one of them - and they’ll take it without question. Liz for certain would!

Raffington55 · 21/11/2023 08:32

@Waverleyst Blimey. A bit of insincere flattery from Liz and she thinks she's got all these blokes back on side. Not for much longer.

Shortbread49 · 21/11/2023 08:53

Setting up your phone to take pics of your own legs in the gym to post online and tell people how skinny they are is very sad other gym goers must wonder what she is doing

GinnyWoolf · 21/11/2023 09:14

That 'I like ma legs like I like ma coffee' post on Twitter made me cringe big-style this morning. Talk about obvious.

TomatoSoupkitchen · 21/11/2023 09:32

@thelisad in your chats with Glen the Brave Protector of Little Ladies Like Liz, did he say how he knows her?

Springtime1973 · 21/11/2023 10:12

And so the plot thickens 🧐 Is Glen the sports photographer Liz's new lover? I initially thought a random person took a photo, but that would be odd and a privacy breach. Knowing Liz, she'd rightly label it an 'attack on her in a safe space' and aim to have the person banned or shut down the gym, unless, of course, he's a hot guy 😅 Inside her head, a cyclone of revenge planning swirls and having a compliant sidekick won't calm it. #prayforglen

Umbrellaisback · 21/11/2023 10:35

Although when a ‘random’ person ‘randomly’ snapped her ‘working’ in a bar she was thrilled and couldn’t wait to share it

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Joonio · 21/11/2023 12:04

Who is Ade?

GinnyWoolf · 21/11/2023 12:46

For anybody who is yet to get the measure of LF, her 'poem' included in one of her bestselling books, entitled 'Some People Are Just C**ts' will do the job nicely. She suggests that you share it with your kids as bedtime reading.

Juniper744 · 21/11/2023 13:24

A random Twitter super fan. Seriously, bless him though as said he looks like an innocent lonely rather than the lonely incels Liz mostly attracts.

OffendedScot · 21/11/2023 14:49

Statement of facts: A loyalty card rewards customers for repeat purchases at a business, often through points or discounts. 😶

Tone deaf: Women and girls are not commodities. We are not to be purchase and consumed. What message is this sending out to men and boys?

NCDV: I really struggle with your endorsement of this.

Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
Raffington55 · 21/11/2023 15:37

No-one needs to compliment LF's body - she spends 100% of her time doing it herself. How tiresome she is having to point out that someone wanted to do that. It's also a crafty invitation for others to do the same. By others, I mean her drooling old-man fan base. It really is an illness in her. Her post makes me queasy. She simply wants people to know. How sad and desperate can you be?

OffendedScot · 21/11/2023 16:09

But she didn’t share the message 🧐

OffendedScot · 21/11/2023 16:27

While I’m still logged in, as we now know Liz is a silent, but very engaged member of this group, a quick lesson for the NCDV ambassador, school governor and mental health ally in cultural and linguistic sensitivity and respect.
Accent imitation and mocking is considered a form of discrimination or prejudice with potential consequences including legal repercussions and workplace tribunals. If you're unsure if imitating an accent is appropriate, just don’t do it to prevent causing offence and alienating entire populations.

I’ll preempt what you will claim here Liz, because I am offended. I’m not without a sense of humour. You are mocking a generic Scottish accent In your post, yesterday. Scottish accents are not comedy accents. The distinct pronunciation patterns and features should not be used to suggest lower intelligence, drunks, for example.

I likes ma legs how I likes ma coffee, baby;
skinny, very strong and extra hot
Oh, and with a loyalty card and a smile, obvs

Jokes involving nationalities or stereotypes are outdated. Most people avoid making jokes that offend. As parents, employees, employers or ambassadors for any organisation, how we act and speak sets the tone.
If we’re ever going to achieve a respectful and inclusive world where everyone is considered equal and there is no abuse of any kind, we need respectful and inclusive conversations.

Diamondstars · 21/11/2023 16:55

Privileged private school and University of Cambridge education wasted on spoiled little rich kid🙄 #FeesrefundforProf&MrsFraser.

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