Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

@thelisad you queen!
Don’t forget as well as the money the 15+ years of diceit.
Maybe add a tile to your IG with some or all of the following:

affairs x 2 with husbands of friends; the train sex man; adultery, she was married through all 3 affairs, 2 which were happening st same time.

Child abandonment x 3 teenagers; deceit, where do we start?!; besmirching reputations, yours of course ;-), Mike, Mike’s partner, wife of train sex man; alleged parental alienation, and grifting to rival Jack Monroe.

Liz Fraser has been very careful to cover up her affairs.
I was at the wedding of Mike his wife in 2015.
Liz was there too with her husband and three children.
How did she not know he was married if she RSVPed and attended?
How does she claim she had no idea he was alcoholic when everyone st that wedding knew he had a drink problem?

Oh an @thelisad, I think that guy was calling you fat 😝

@thelisadare you new the the group? It’s good to see more women coming forward with their experiences. Mike destroyed his darling wife and Liz has shown no remorse but given the impression that he was fair game. It seems in Liz Fraser’s world that girl power is powering your way in to other women’s security.

I'm assuming lisad's new post on her insta (hello Lisa!) is the vile vicious trolling post?

Looks pretty reasonable to me!!

@OffendedScot Oh I don't mind, I am fat. Compared to Lizzie anyway.
It's that thick skin of mine that does it. And that means that I can take whatever Glen and his ilk throw at me, because I won't stop until she stops harming women whilst claiming to help them.

Hi Lisa! 😊

Hi Lisa! Great work. Also, have you had the (dubious) pleasure of LF acquaintance?

😂

Likewise. I believe that this group of women shows that recovery and gaining strength is something women do better together. Liz, on the other hand, doesn't seem to grasp the power of women's friendships and support. She's a lone sniper, calling on men to feed her ego.

Does anyone know exactly why Coming Clean was never released as a paperback? Did Mike object or did the publishing company become aware that certain important details were swept under the carpet (rather than properly cleaned up). Will there be any more print runs of the hardback copy? I followed Liz as a fan at that time and remember she did a video to camera explaining that there would be no paperback book, but I couldn't make sense of what she said.

Surprised the cavalry hasn't arrived on the thread in the form of whereswillywonkaswoolysweaterandwinteruggboots 😀

I don’t know this for certain but I suspect it was because the hardback didn’t do that well despite being a ‘bestseller’ in some random Amazon category but I also wonder whether M’s recovery might have led him to assess it rather differently.

While LF ranted about a lone troll whose identity was known, the local police near Liz's and my homes sought information regarding the brutal rape of a young woman just minutes away.

Unsurprisingly, there was no mention of it from Liz. She had the opportunity to use her social media presence to assist this unfortunate 20-year-old whose life will be forever altered, but she chose not to. Yesterday, like most days, it was all about Liz. #womenhelpingwomen #lizfraserhelpingherself

It's interesting, isn't it, that she never actually show any 'proof' of this 'good work' or offers any evidence for how women have actually been helped by her.
That poor girl in your road Mrs, absolutely horrendous.

There's a really informative and terrifying Twitter account I follow called 'Counting Dead Women' which shows the scale of Male violence. She would do well to take note and maybe start educating her followers on the reality of DV instead of just wittering on about people who are 'saying bad things about me. Poor me'

Absolutely. It’s very likely the attack was by someone the poor woman knows. A police update is suggesting it’s an isolated event.
I’m sure there are patterns of behaviour in domestic abuse. Standard red flags to be aware of. Im sure she could be pointing followers to lists and advice on the NCDV and other websites. There is no explanation on her to author these or even know them. Just to share them.
I read about beige flag’s recently. While we’re getting close to over analysing each other’s quirks, the message is not getting across from Liz about potential danger signs. She could use her own experience as a case study and pepper in NCDV findings, comments from her followers, etc. far better use of her time than video rants she later takes down 😉

https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/beige-flags-dating

I work with all sorts of vulnerable people, a few being victims of DV. The Freedom programme is an amazing resource she could talk about - if only she could stop talking about herself!!

But...... a photo of her legs is much more important

in the hours that horrific attack happened literally moments from her home she’s found time to tell us how fabulous her life is, how happy she is, how she loves her skinny legs. Oh and how she helps other women recover from trauma by being inspirational. But this isn’t even worth a mention. Maybe only some women (herself?) and selected traumas then

She doesn't seem to genuinely want to help women. She likes to SAY that she's helping women. In the same way, she doesn't actually want the hard graft of being a publisher, but she liked SAYING that she was a publisher of edgy women's fiction because it sounds good.

She is very Jack monroe, always doing things ‘behind the scenes’, ‘can’t say what yet’ etc, with ‘yet’ never turning into ‘can say now’. Of course her ‘fans’ wouldn’t be the target audience for the stuff she claims to write/campaign about, so why would they question her?

she does nothing but go to cafes and the gym. A complete ‘lady’ of leisure living in a fantasy world.

what happened to all the reports she was doing for the Italian mag?

What an incredible resource! Thanks for sharing@Tortiemiaw👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

The Freedom Programme seems to be recommended by all credible DA/DV organisations, including the National Centre for Domestic Violence!!!

I signed up this morning and I wish I had known about it 15, 16 years ago. I also shared the link with @ObservingToo. I'll share my thoughts with this group once I've completed it; I believe it's a 12-weeks.

But seriously, Liz Fraser, shame on you for not sharing the Freedom Programme. And shame on NCDV for allowing this vanity show to continue.

@ anyone at NCDV, has Liz Fraser received any training? Is she aware of this? Education on the Freedom Programme should definitely be part of any NCDV Ambassador's toolkit.

I really do wonder if NCDV is fit for purpose or if its apparent lack of substance is the result of the "Liz Fraser effect." I follow on Facebook and it does post useful content.

Fortunately, all thanks to this incredibly supportive group of Cleaning Ladies staying committed to each other, we now know about the Freedom Project and can share it within our own DV support networks. 💛

To the other women in the group who have experienced domestic violence maybe have a look at the Freedom Programme if you haven't already.

In a nutshell;

• It addresses abusive and controlling behaviour in relationships, based on research showing that, in most cases, domestic abuse involves men against women.
• Each week examines various aspects of behaviour, analysing abusers' words and actions *to understand their motives and common control tactics.
• Sessions are friendly yet structured, encouraging participation.
• The group explores abusive behaviour characteristics and empowers women to protect themselves and their children*.

Liz refuses even to raise the subject of the impact of domestic violence and abuse on children in the home.

The programme refers to extensive research showing that DV in the home often exposes children to traumatic and harmful experiences, affecting their well-being and development.

It says that children who witness domestic abuse are at a higher risk of becoming abusers or entering abusive relationships in adulthood.

The programme looks at creating a safer, more nurturing environment and preventing the perpetuation of the cycle of violence is considered essential when addressing these issues.

So, further evidence that LF doesn’t know best.

*I wonder how LF stacks up. Badly if this is anything to go by, https://ncadv.org/signs-of-abuse#:~:text=Red%20flags%20and%20warning%20signs,Unpredictability

https://www.ncdv.org.uk/agencies/freedom-programme/#:~:text=The%20Freedom%20Programme%20is%20a,with%20perpetrators%20of%20domestic%20violence.

Yes, the freedom programme is amazing. I learned to deliver it back in 2005 when it was very first started by an amazing lady called Pat Craven - a tiny Liverpudlian who'd, basically, had enough of abusive men!
It's grown so much since then and is a go to for women who are in or have been in abusive relationships. There are also courses for men who want to 'recover,' is the only word I can think of from being abusive.

I'd be amazed if a huge organisation like the NCDV isn't aware of, and in fact, tells and possibly trains their staff and ambassadors about it very early on.

Very poor management if they don't

Sorry - just seen the NCDV are aware of it!!
Their ambassador would do a lot of good promoting it.

#Hellotrolls? Liz, do better. You’re not a 10-year-old in the playground. The NCDV has entrusted you with the role of being a domestic abuse ambassador, with the task of helping it fulfil its mission of helping women to identify the early signs of domestic abuse, make decisions for a better life and work towards making domestic abuse socially unacceptable. Right now, you are actively working against the positive work the NCDV has done.

Feel free to screen grab this post and spread it across the internet emblazoned with #troll. I’m open to engaging with you on any platform, even at the school gate.

Engage with the people you claim to be helping. @thelisad Lisa asked you a straightforward question and you responded by abusing her and continue to do so. You have her contact details. She was not faceless.

Remember, hubris leads to nemesis. Pride before a fall, you get the jist.

In the spirit of feminism, we don't judge another woman on her looks, but when you implied the #trolls are lesser physically than you Liz, my husband reminded me of that awkward moment last summer when you, let's say, misjudged my husband and what and who he considers to be attractive.

Yup. Awkward.

If we compare apples with apples, it's quite likely that when I'm your age, I might not be as skinny as you are, but right now, I have the piping hot husband, figure and friendship group you covet. Oh I’ve noticed you looking at me. I don't even have to starve myself or push myself to extremes in the gym. As you know Liz, looking at mine, there is so much more to life than skinny, long strong legs. You either have it or you don't. Right back at you, #Troliz 🧌

If she just promoted this, she really would be making a difference to women’s lives. In one place, it’s everything I’ve been looking for, for years. You’d think the NCDV would recommended it to Liz, especially considering she’s the most damaged woman by abuse, ever!

@Marstonroadmrsreturns
Did she really imply that her 'trolls' are physically less than her? 🤣 What a knobhead. How on Earth does that matter?

I mean, of course she's totally correct. I am physically less than her in that I can't run 15k without stopping or dying of a heart attack, despite the fact that I'm younger.

But when I said that I'm fat compared to Lizzie, I just meant that I'm not emaciated. I'm a healthy size 10-12 with a bum and boobs (and a gorgeous husband who I just have to look at and I melt. Tall, dark, sparkly blue eyes. 🥰 He's amazing). I've managed to hang on to him by never treating him like shit and shagging around on him. 🤗

But there is one vital area that I'm not lesser than you Liz. MORALITY! I've never intentionally hurt anyone, never really let my friends down, I've never knowingly shagged a married man; let alone the husband of a friend. I've never lied purely to harm the reputation of another. I've never left, nor would I ever leave, my four beautiful children. I'd never cheat on DP and if he left me I'd never keep his children from him just to be cruel. I've also never taken advantage of vulnerable people, stolen from them and then swanned off around Europe with the proceeds.

But Liz, you and I both know that your moral misdemeanours are too many and various to list here.

So no, I'm definitely not the lesser person.

PS. I see my dentist and hygienist regularly. Please do the same. If knocking other women's appearances is what we do now.