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Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Cambridgebunz · 07/11/2023 09:26

Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

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Raffington55 · 19/11/2023 12:08

Pumpkinqueenz · 19/11/2023 11:45

Oh my, Lisa if you want to follow me please do. I like to make my own mind up about people and several stompy stories from LF won’t stop me. What did Lisa say that riled her up so much to the point she is still going in about it today. If you’d only just blocked her and quietly got on with your day none of us would be the any the wiser.

Liz's three vid's about trolls (triggered by Lisa!) - she really does protest too much, doesn't she?! The "I will just go about as I do, doing good" though - how hilarious!!!!

I don't think callously breaking up many marriages, abandoning ALL your children (Scout seems to have fallen by the wayside now there's a man on the scene) and stealing money from people can really be classed as 'going about doing good'.

Raffington55 · 19/11/2023 12:13

vids rather

Shortbread49 · 19/11/2023 13:37

Where is all the work on domestic abuse has it been published anywhere other than on social media or her book as my childhood was impacted by it and I am
looking for useful sources of information ?

GinnyWoolf · 19/11/2023 13:50

There's a hell of a lot of projection going on in that latest reel. Talking about people who are obsessed and obsessive, have bad mental health, set out to hurt others. Hmm.

Tortiemiaw · 19/11/2023 14:01

Shortbread49 · 19/11/2023 13:37

Where is all the work on domestic abuse has it been published anywhere other than on social media or her book as my childhood was impacted by it and I am
looking for useful sources of information ?

Ah now, you see, she CAN'T do any more work on it because TROLLS have stopped her - or something. If however, you donate to her Substandardstack or MyTube or whatever it is you may get the odd newsletter about how well she's doing.
OH! I also believe there's also a book all about dealing with ...stuff

Notsolong · 19/11/2023 14:02

Just share Lisa’s trolling so everyone can understand what she’s saying that’s so awful.

OffendedScot · 19/11/2023 14:06

if I had a Daily Mail journalist following my instagram I’d be staying quiet for a few days. DM loves a marriage treachery headline 😏 whether it’s not true or not!

Joonio · 19/11/2023 14:11

Then what would we read?

Umbrellaisback · 19/11/2023 14:45

It’s the constant gaslighting that I find so hard to deal with. And very triggering

actuallyhappy · 19/11/2023 14:53

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quantumkat · 19/11/2023 14:56

Just catching up with this thread and unfortunately I'm blocked by Lizzie on insta. She's directing people here? What's this about a DM journalist too?

SundayNight · 19/11/2023 15:19

Classic gaslighting from Liz Fraser. My goodness.

OffendedScot · 19/11/2023 15:27

[email protected] wrote a story about LF finding new love info and photos lifted LF IG. Google Liz Fraser + Daily Mail and up it comes. Same journo wrote a similar story a few years back so must follow

Tortiemiaw · 19/11/2023 15:32

And on IG at the moment she's spitting with rage (under a 'I GENUINELY DON'T CARE. IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME AT ALL' guise,) and asking everyone to block a 'particularly vicious troll' who, according to the 'vicious troll's' own insta story, appears to have simply asked for money back.
It's all a bit over the top tbf

trytopullyoursocksup · 19/11/2023 16:23

She just needs to get a proper job. There are so many bullshit merchant "life coaches" about at the moment making out that it is possible and / or desirable to make a living wanging on about ADHD or some other buzzword topic. People going into corporations doing wanky unauthenticated training on something trendy and getting ££££. It helps if you are leggy and posh of course. It's not real work, it's not like treating patients or researching something important or becoming a lawyer who can represent people for equal opportunities or anything like that. It's just a way of not having to show up every day at a proper job. The problem is, it's really unrewarding for the same reasons. Work is actually good for you, that is, if it's good work that's good for you. LF has lots of talents and lots of energy so of course all this floating about posting thinspo thirst shots is going to be very unfulfilling. That's why she's angry

Raffington55 · 19/11/2023 16:30

If there are 'multiple trolls' that have caused her to close Edgeway Press, why is she so ENRAGED by just ONE (Lisa D!)? It rather wrecks the "loads of trolls have ruined my business" theory. If these trolls are so active, she'd be used to them by now, not singling one person out. She shoots herself in the foot constantly. How did she get into CAMBRIDGE? She doesn't seem that bright much of the time?

GinnyWoolf · 19/11/2023 17:57

I can't see Tattle any longer but I dread to think what's going on in there on this subject. Maybe LF should direct people there instead.

Raffington55 · 19/11/2023 18:14

More chance encounters that can't be talked of right now and COULD ONE DAY BRING POSITIVE EFFECTS FOR OTHERS. COULD.....ONE DAY!!!

"...and I also made a totally unexpected and rather amazing connection this weekend that could have a very positive effect on my work, and thus on the lives of others".

Will crowdfunding be required? Damn right it will! Liz needs more holidays in 2024.

Perfectlystill · 19/11/2023 18:30

The Lisa post is on TL, or at least one of them is. It's a pic of Liz with text overlaid saying 'Yo Liz! I'm not trying to destroy all the GOOD THINGS you claim to do. I simply want you to return the money you've stolen from people, many of whom are victims of DV'

JemimaTab · 19/11/2023 18:57

I think the reason Liz is so furious is that this Lisa woman is asking about the money. It’s a sore point, clearly, and she doesn’t want people to latch on to it, so it’s easier to throw a fit about “trolls”.
It’s a fair question though. Where DID the money that she raised for Edgeway Press go? She has absolutely nothing to show for it. And surely, at least morally, she’s accountable to those people who donated to her. What about the small businesses that “sponsored” her, like that coffee shop? Are they out of pocket because they hosted events hoping for publicity later on?
These people do deserve an answer. Because if you donate money towards setting up a publishing house, and that publishing house simply never happens, but in the meantime you’ve watched the recipient of your cash take multiple luxury trips (almost every weekend) to assorted European destinations … well, you might have some questions.

Mumtobesept2023 · 19/11/2023 19:28

See also Headcase

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Barelybarefoot · 19/11/2023 20:35

She trips up here because she asserts that the trolls hides behind anonymity. Lisa D doesn't. Her profile is open. Liz's supporters have the freedom to contact her and call her out. However, they don’t and they won’t.

Ade and Grant and the others crave Liz's approval because she pays attention to them. She does so for her benefit, not theirs, which is all the more coercive. If you examine the profiles of these predominantly lonely, single men, you'll notice that they follow numerous vulnerable or scantily clad women. Birds of a feather flock together.

thelisad · 19/11/2023 20:48

Actually one person has replied to me to call me out.

Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
NHSarah · 19/11/2023 20:54

The edgeway press money is an aside. The greatest crime is the Flying Solo Substack and the virtual begging bowl that was heavily promoted this time last year, is money taken from vulnerable, often still homeless women because of domestic violence like @ObservingToo.

Jo Tweedy at the Daily Mail, this is a great story lead for you.

These women paid for a service that hasn’t been delivered. In more than a year not a single domestic abuse support article has been published on Flying Solo. A few salt-in-the-wounds Liz-on-holiday and Liz-having-a-good-time and Liz-the-angel-helping-women-with-no-evidence blogs have gone up, but not the service paid for. No help, support or signposting.

In simple terms, if you pay for a meal you expect to be served a meal. Likewise, if you buy a flight, you expect to fly. I’m not sure how the Sale of Goods Act comes into play here. I know @ObservingToo is working with Citizens Advice on this. Jo Tweedy at the Daily Mail, another great story lead for you.

Men seemed to be more susceptible to the begging bowl. Proud to announce their donation on Twitter. Briefly, Liz dedicated her daily luxury-for-many The Missing Bean Coffee to them. I think the grift for this money was the cost of living crisis and being unable to heat her house. She was able to buy champagne and post pictures of this, however.

Jo Tweedy at the Daily Mail, I suspect Liz will be working on having this thread taken down as I type. I bet tomorrow it will be gone, so I’m screen grabbing this for you just in case.

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