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Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Cambridgebunz · 07/11/2023 09:26

Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

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Raffington55 · 17/11/2023 13:25

The trolls story, what a load of rubbish as a reason for putting Edgeway on hold. Blame it all on something else and play the victim as per Liz! Why is she so worried about protecting her 'writers'. I'm sure she ignored all manuscripts in favour of travelling once the launch party was done and the attention dwindled. She didn't care about people she defrauded out of money?? Why the sudden concern for Edgeway writing contributors? What a liar!

NHSarah · 17/11/2023 14:07

Oh Liz. Expose the “trolls.” The women whose husbands you slept with. Whose money you took. Share their comments. All of them. Let your audience decide if they’re trolls or truth tellers.

ObservingToo · 17/11/2023 14:45

You’re bang on right Liz I do have a sad lonely awful life because I’m a victim of domestic violence and you set back my recovery by lying to get money from me and then TROLLING ME when I asked when I’d get the articles I paid in advance for. I’d love to know what you think your done for women because I am a woman who needs help and I’ve seen or had nothing from you but you running salt in my wounds.

if you want police stories I can give you police stories. First I’ve been to the police about your extorting from vulnerable woman. Second, I saw my husband jailed thanks to the support of the police. If you want a case study I can give you an 18 months plus timeline from first call to charging but you blocked me cause I asked when a report from the NCDV would be available. not crime of the century.

Tortiemiaw · 17/11/2023 14:58

Of all the stories, ObservingToo, I find yours the most heartbreaking when we're talking about her money crimes. Utterly despicable woman. How dare she!

Shortbread49 · 17/11/2023 15:22

What a load of s**t what she really means is I set up this publishing company to get attention for myself and now I can’t be bothered so I will blame other people

Verity44 · 17/11/2023 15:27

That video from Liz 🤔 I wonder how long it took to finalise her story and rehearse it so that it would be plausible to the world (her world)? It's straight out of the Liz Fraser playbook - twist the narrative so that you absolve yourself of all responsibility then milk the sympathy for all it's worth. All delivered in her look-at-me-would-I-lie-to-you practised style (perfected over many years).

@ObservingToo It must add so much insult to so much injury to hear these well-rehearsed excuses and see the faux sincerity with which she speaks and expects not to be challenged.

The sad fact is we all saw this coming in June!!! She doesn't have the skill-set for such exacting work as publishing. Once the gloss of launches and interviews are over she doesn't have a clue.

Now .... shall I set up a publishing company to unsilence women? I can think of a few who would contribute 😁

Tortiemiaw · 17/11/2023 16:01

Her nerve is almost admirable. How can she live with herself knowing she has stolen money.

Burgundybrin · 17/11/2023 16:11

I'd be fascinated to know what the 'police involvement' was with the Twitter Edgeway Press accounts. I call bulls**t.

Umbrellaisback · 17/11/2023 17:00

I found the video almost like someone creating a story and then trying to convince themselves that it’s plausible. And the can’t give the money back because I spent it all on setting up the company? It can cost very little to register a company. There is no office. Social media accounts are free. You can set up websites for free or for very little. No paper because no books. No printing or editorial costs because no books. No staff costs because intern is free and no books. No business cards because they were made out of a piece of paper. Seriously, where did it all go? On the bus fare to get free entry (as Press NOT as a publisher) to the London book fair? I’m absolutely shocked by this

Umbrellaisback · 17/11/2023 17:00

As in shocked at the gall not at it happening

Umbrellaisback · 17/11/2023 17:02

Oh and the company might be in her words defunct but the donate button is still active

Physicsrevision · 17/11/2023 17:10

@Tortiemiaw She certainly displays an impressive brass neck. Lying for personal gain is not the norm for feminists or any group.
I would find myself crippled by guilt and the fear of getting caught if I were her.
Maybe the addictive thrill of successfully getting away with it has led to a hard-to-break cycle of deceit?

Raffington55 · 17/11/2023 17:19

Umbrellaisback · 17/11/2023 17:00

I found the video almost like someone creating a story and then trying to convince themselves that it’s plausible. And the can’t give the money back because I spent it all on setting up the company? It can cost very little to register a company. There is no office. Social media accounts are free. You can set up websites for free or for very little. No paper because no books. No printing or editorial costs because no books. No staff costs because intern is free and no books. No business cards because they were made out of a piece of paper. Seriously, where did it all go? On the bus fare to get free entry (as Press NOT as a publisher) to the London book fair? I’m absolutely shocked by this

Is that what she said?!?! I couldn't watch the whole film because it disgusted me so much. She registered that company and that was it. That's ALL she did. Then the postie came by and said "good on you love", and she cried dramatically as she took the registration documents from his hand. End of Edgeway Press. What a fraud this woman is. I think it's time people were put in the picture. Some guy made a massive donation - wasn't that mentioned on here recently? What did she do with his money I wonder? Stay at that expensive hotel in Salzburg (that she claimed hired her - and no evidence of that since). I'm speechless. She's a con artist. They should make a Netflix documentary outing her.

Pumpkinqueenz · 17/11/2023 17:28

If she registered EP as a business entity then she’ll have to submit accounts won’t she? Show the donations received and the outgoings. Don’t think HMRC let you off the hook for trolls.

Hardyards · 17/11/2023 17:33

Me too @Burgundybrin.

Unless she has the Trademark for Edgeway Press, what’s the crime? I’ll ask my neighbour. She’s a police officer. I suspect though, if there is a copyright infringement issue, this would be a civil dispute.

Umbrellaisback · 17/11/2023 17:43

@Raffington55 that is what she said. I can’t give it back because it all went on setting up the company.

Shortbread49 · 17/11/2023 17:54

It will have gone on paper that has remained blank and coffees

Raffington55 · 17/11/2023 17:59

Umbrellaisback · 17/11/2023 17:43

@Raffington55 that is what she said. I can’t give it back because it all went on setting up the company.

Thanks!
What tosh. There's no company to speak of except for the company she has registered at companies house (just look on Google - company number and financial information with filing dates included - how will she dodge that I wonder? Pretend she dying again?)

Tortiemiaw · 17/11/2023 18:05

Interesting how she 'doesn't spend a nano second of time' thinking about these evil trolls and company destroyers and yet...the company has been DESTROYED by them.

Is this now three fake enterprises set up, money exhorted for them and then nothing given back in return with no refunsd? Isn't that sort of...illegal?

AppleBlossomTimeNow · 17/11/2023 18:07

Is she going to return the
Virginia Woolf first edition? No, didn't think so. Or the money a small local business put into sponsoring her & hosting her (failure to) launch event? Or all the donations from people who genuinely give a shit about women being silenced? Blaming trolls for not doing something is the internet age's equivalent of 'the dog ate my homework'. It's such a flimsy excuse. Virginia Woolf would be ashamed at her lack of backbone. Truth is, she never sticks at anything - projects, ideas, people, jobs, homes - she has the wherewithal to drop things when she tires of them. She can call it ADHD if she likes, but the grifting for money isn't ADHD, it's pure greed & dishonesty.

Raffington55 · 17/11/2023 18:10

She has slipped up in the second vid and completely forgotten that she said said in the first vid that Edgeway Press is "on pause". She clearly has zero intention of resurrecting it. She has blamed other people and run off with the money. This woman needs to be exposed now. This is low behaviour. "This was never about me, it was only to help others". I just pray the new likely 20 something bf gets out the moment he gets a whiff of her psychopathy.

GinnyWoolf · 17/11/2023 18:29

What a very strange reel that was. Stating that the folding of her non-existent business was a 'gain' to her in terms of time and money - you would think that if she felt that way, she wouldn't have set it up in the first place. Of course a publishing company takes time and money and effort to build up, which is precisely why she can't be arsed to do it, because she has realised that she would have to do a hell of a lot of work with new authors - reading, editing, submitting, printing, marketing etc. In all my many years in publishing I have never, ever, seen somebody use the excuse of 'trolls' to pull out of the industry. It's not trolls she has a problem with - it's people, ALL people who would expect any sort of time and commitment from her. Pretty transparent, really!

I should add that, I can't view the entire reel but I'm intrigued to hear about the Virginia Woolf first edition if anybody might enlighten me. I've written three books about Woolf myself and I can confidently state that as a publisher, editor and writer, Woolf was the real deal. And she WORKED, by God she worked at it. Night and Day (!)

AutumnLeaves55 · 17/11/2023 18:41

Agree with @Physicsrevision that it's probably in the nature of an addictive cycle now. Such an obvious ending to it! And one which was predicted by several ladies on this thread from the start... just to reiterate, I really hope this thread stays up and anyone ever tempted to give to her finds it on google and understands not to subscribe/give charitable donations to the fund of Liz! Mumsnet has a standard warning on begging threads; she needs one herself!

AppleBlossomTimeNow · 17/11/2023 18:58

@GinnyWoolf some bloke gifted her a Virgina Woolf first edition when she announced the formation of EP. Tattlers & MNetters estimated it was worth around £20k.

Raffington55 · 17/11/2023 19:02

"I have no words for those who set about each day to try and being negativity into the world. They are not worth a single breath or word, and unlike their continued obsession with me and my life, I give them not one nanosecond of my time or thoughts."

Liz, you certainly DO give them more than a nanosecond when you allow them so much importance that you have to close down your business!!!! You contradict yourself there!

"I DO, however, have time and thoughts and words for those who have survived awful things and yet show up each day to be POSITIVE"

By 'those who have survived awful things and yet show up each day to be positive'. are you referring to women such as Mike's ex wife, NM, Verity44 and nopain? All of whom you destroyed without a care in the world? They have survived terrible things, haven't they? And they are lovely women who show up each day to be POSITIVE (your caps). You've had time and thoughts for them, have you?

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