Page 11 | Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

Cambridgebunz · 2023-11-07T09:26:36+00:00

Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary. What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"? Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

Raffington55 · 16/11/2023 13:18

Oh! This is enlightening! That article went up in the DM two days ago, not this morning. Great comment about it on Tattle:

Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

OffendedScot · 16/11/2023 13:36

Written by her?

OffendedScot · 16/11/2023 13:40

I would definitely get solicitors involved.

Barelybarefoot · 16/11/2023 13:42

Ah! Karma was a Daily Mail interview to trash her ex. The Daily Mail is hardly a newspaper to be associated with.

Rachealfar · 16/11/2023 14:51

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12747455/amp/Author-Liz-Fraser-reveals-shes-love-abusive-relationship.html

it’s still up. Taken straight from X. I wonder if she even knows it was written? Surely the Daily Mail doesn’t write straight from social media?! The headline! Let’s home the relationship lasts longer than the max two weeks she’s known him!

Author who wrote about alcoholic ex says she's found love again

Broadcaster Liz Fraser penned her book about a chaotic relationship with the alcoholic father of her youngest child in 2021, saying their arguments left her with 'severe PTSD'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12747455/amp/Author-Liz-Fraser-reveals-shes-love-abusive-relationship.html

Heatherfell · 16/11/2023 14:53

Who controls the moderating? It’s definitely not taking comments.

Raffington55 · 16/11/2023 15:17

I doubt she will like that grinning pic of herself at all.

Growingupinthe80s · 16/11/2023 16:05

Verity44 · 16/11/2023 10:15

@GreekDogRescue

Yes, I feel for Mike too. This type of irresponsible journalism peddles the infantile notion that the world is populated by "goodies" and "baddies". Real life is complex, complicated and nuanced. It suits Liz to be portrayed as the poor victim. The journalist has clearly not read the book or the many reviews slating . it. Liz admits in the book that she lashed out too.

Mike is now in a relationship with a professional woman who, I am sure, would have nothing to do with a man who harmed her or her children. I don't know her but I am guessing that she is wise and mature and understands that Mike was at rock bottom when he was with Liz. He is making daily amends through his 12 step programme and I am sure this is why he is not engaging with her antics. I am also sure that she finds this infuriating, hence the public defamation at every opportunity.

Dear Daily Mail - are you happy to be perpetuating this public slagging off of a young child's father? And that this will be in the public domain for the rest of her life? Her mother clearly doesn't care.

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Raffington55 · 16/11/2023 17:54

I see Liz is trying to impress her new man with photos of her serious 'talks' delivered at Cambridge. Referencing her red high heels in one of them, just to make sure we all look. What's the betting she soon trots out the Billie-Jean King/This Morning sofa leg shots she's so proud of, for the 36,000th time?

LynetteScavo · 16/11/2023 19:33

I don't think Liz had anything to do with that Daily Mail article. Joanna Tweedy seems to have got the entire content from Liz's Insta page. She probably got the idea for the article from reading these MN threads .

Mike consented to the book Coming Clean, and what has been published will be dragged up for however long...he wouldn't have a leg to stand on if he tried to silence what he consented to be published, so there is no point in considering lawyers.

Tortiemiaw · 16/11/2023 20:18

Her obsession with being an expert on DV is really irritating. As we have heard on these threads, women have been through absolute hell with no escape as she always seemed to have, no ready funds or handy photographers taking pretty pictures of her 'trauma'.

I'm not denying she may have had a bit of a rough time but she's like a precious first-time pregnant mother -no-one has EVER BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH HELL AS HER. And, I'm afraid, and I hate to say this, she was part of it happening

It sickens me more each day

Raffington55 · 16/11/2023 21:26

Tortiemiaw · 16/11/2023 20:18

Her obsession with being an expert on DV is really irritating. As we have heard on these threads, women have been through absolute hell with no escape as she always seemed to have, no ready funds or handy photographers taking pretty pictures of her 'trauma'.

I'm not denying she may have had a bit of a rough time but she's like a precious first-time pregnant mother -no-one has EVER BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH HELL AS HER. And, I'm afraid, and I hate to say this, she was part of it happening

It sickens me more each day

She will have taken all those DV photos of herself. It's like when she claimed she had a breakdown when her ex husband asked her to leave and she lost weight, shut herself in a cupboard (or something similar) and started cutting herself TAKING PICTURES AND POSTING THEM TO SOCIAL MEDIA. Yes, folks. After all, mustn't forget there's always an audience to manipulate!

quantumkat · 16/11/2023 21:48

Did she really do that? Shut herself in a cupboard and self harm whilst filming? Wow! And this woman is a parenting expert?

Also, what is the significance of The Brandenburg Gate? I've seen it mentioned a few times in relation to this person.

Raffington55 · 16/11/2023 22:06

quantumkat · 16/11/2023 21:48

Did she really do that? Shut herself in a cupboard and self harm whilst filming? Wow! And this woman is a parenting expert?

Also, what is the significance of The Brandenburg Gate? I've seen it mentioned a few times in relation to this person.

No, she took pics of her emaciated body with very recently inflicted cutting marks. It will be somewhere on her insta feed back in c2015. She didn't film herself self harming.

RhinoRhino · 17/11/2023 08:37

Diamondstars · 15/11/2023 08:25

It's easy to pass judgment when you're not in a specific situation, so it would be beneficial for women to gain a better understanding of why some women stay in relationships or restart relationships with men who physically assault them. Emotional abuse is more subjective, but when you're physically assaulted to the point of bruising and fear, there's no mistaking it as abuse.

I want to emphasise that I'm not blaming victims in any way here. Personally, if anyone were to hit or bite me, I would consider the relationship over, whether it's a friend or a partner. However, Ive never been in this situation so my reality might be the opposite to this. It’s important to recognise that everyone's reality and decisions can be different when faced with such situations.

In Liz Fraser's case, after the assaults shown in the photos she posted yesterday, she left her home in Venice and relocated to Oxford. She bought a new home and invited Mike not only to continue the relationship but also to live with her without any couple counselling and unfortunately, the abuse continued.

I don't believe this is an unusual scenario, which is why we may need to focus on education to understand what drives some women to "love" and want to restart a relationship with a man who has previously abused them and has not undergone therapy for change. I might have missed it but nothing Liz has written explains the psychology behind this or steps to take to accept when a relationship is done.

Both Mike and Liz are in new, happy relationships but in the meantime they’ve endured 4 years of sheer hell that to the outside eye could have been avoided by a clean break in Venice. I’m my eye, success for Liz from her situation would be helping people learn from her mistakes. At this point, who was to blame is irrelevant. What is relevant is why two very unhappy and mismatched people decided to stay in an obviously toxic relationship. Liz has 100s of photos she could have stuck on her walls as reminders not to invite him back into her life.

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Raffington55 · 17/11/2023 10:34

Everything that makes me utterly nauseous about LF's posts:

Constantly referring to towns and cities and monuments, among other things, as 'she' 🤢🤮

The extremely cringey "we've/you've got this" 🤢🤮

Melszone · 17/11/2023 11:00

@Verity44 i tried to comment yesterday. It’s still “in review.”

Melszone · 17/11/2023 11:04

@quantumkat The Brandenburg Gate. Early in her marriage, maybe two children in, she met an old classmate there for a catch up. Ended up having s.x with him and allegedly fell pregnant. child 3 not the result of this. The originator of this story was a neighbour in Cambridge.

Melszone · 17/11/2023 11:12

While dancing for four hours this week and entertaining said new lover, plus changing the world for women 🙄, where’s her daughter been? She was with her dad most of last week and weekend and she seems only to have been with Liz for one evening this week.

Considering it was too high risk for her to spend any time at all with her dad just months ago and Liz continues to outline his alleged atrocities, is she spending time elsewhere?

It would be useful for parents to understand how children are reintegrated with parents who have not been allowed to see them and the psychological support available to children in these situations.

CloudBayOz · 17/11/2023 11:16

If she’s dancing every night@Melszone it suggests the new lover might be a salsa dancer. The salsa group is a Uni of Oxford recsoc. Mature student, lecturer or similar age to her son? 😮‍💨

Raffington55 · 17/11/2023 11:34

Melszone · 17/11/2023 11:04

@quantumkat The Brandenburg Gate. Early in her marriage, maybe two children in, she met an old classmate there for a catch up. Ended up having s.x with him and allegedly fell pregnant. child 3 not the result of this. The originator of this story was a neighbour in Cambridge.

Good God

Pumpkinqueenz · 17/11/2023 11:47

I think we need to be very careful and only post factual and already in the public domain. Hearsay is what will have our threads deleted. Just my opinion.

CultureAlienationBoredomandDespair · 17/11/2023 12:34

There’s been an update on Edgeway Press, it’s on hiatus because of trolls 🙄

Pumpkinqueenz · 17/11/2023 12:43

Am very glad I didn’t fall for the donation line for EP as I did with substack. Imagine the people who submitted a manuscript and it’s come to nothing. Surely anyone who is successful has come across trolling or similar at some point. You don’t allow that to define you or your brand. You can’t use it as an excuse for a failed project.

AppleBlossomTimeNow · 17/11/2023 12:50

RIP Edgeway Press. Because trolls. What a waste of everyone's time (and possibly money). Obvs the situation with alleged trolls couldn't be explained to potential authors who could then make their own minds up or publish under a pseudonym. Ridiculous woman.