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Hate the term real women have curves

115 replies

Beanscene · 30/06/2023 15:40

I know this has probably been done to death, but I honestly hate the term 'real women have curves' , only 'dogs like bones' etc etc etc.....i hear and see it everywhere!!!! Another way to body shame women and to make women feel the only relevant thing about them is their body. You'd think this would have died down but I feel its become worse

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LunaMay · 06/07/2023 09:21

CrumpetsBeotch · 04/07/2023 23:04

I've only ever heard it used by overweight women that are more fat than curvy tbh.

How lovely to body shame on a post complaining about body shaming.

SheIIy · 06/07/2023 09:26

With models, it varies because I know a woman who's tall, too. She is naturally slim, like me. If you're 6', you're going to be slim with little effort.

If you're a 5'7 woman who's modelling, it's a different ballgame because things spread out differently, it won't be so easy

Regardless, nobody deserves to be insulted for their body. It also means teenage girls are having to deal with those insults, not just the bad irresponsible models

LuciferRising · 06/07/2023 09:29

SheIIy · 06/07/2023 09:14

Instagram models and celebrities are not skinny. Nobody calls them bones or not real women.

Fashion models are skinny. They're the ones insulted, told they only exist by starving themselves and only gay men like them. They are the ones told their existence causes anorexia in others.

If Taylor swift is skinny, then maybe that says something about society because she is average weight and build.

Taylor Swift certainly is what normal should be. She isn't skinny. People need to stop using skinny when they mean healthy weight. Skinny means underweight. She may not be average in Western society though, but she should be.

Blacmirror · 06/07/2023 09:31

Taylor Swift used to have an eating disorder and has openly talked about previously being too thin (and achieving this is unhealthy ways). Agree that now she looks amazing and looks to be within a healthy weight though- can't be easy to battle and recover from an ED whilst being in the public eye.

egowise · 06/07/2023 09:36

KPops22 · 05/07/2023 08:55

There's a lot of hate for other women on this thread - so disappointing to read.

Yep

SheIIy · 06/07/2023 10:29

@LuciferRising yep, that's exactly it

KPops22 · 06/07/2023 10:34

LuciferRising · 06/07/2023 09:29

Taylor Swift certainly is what normal should be. She isn't skinny. People need to stop using skinny when they mean healthy weight. Skinny means underweight. She may not be average in Western society though, but she should be.

You cannot use a young woman as an example of what "Normal should be". She is a young woman with no children - many of us were like that when we were young. I was 6 stone 10lbs when I was at University! Now in my 60s I am not. People change in size as they age, are ill, are happy, are sad, diet, eat etc. Life happens. Normal ?

LuciferRising · 06/07/2023 11:02

KPops22 · 06/07/2023 10:34

You cannot use a young woman as an example of what "Normal should be". She is a young woman with no children - many of us were like that when we were young. I was 6 stone 10lbs when I was at University! Now in my 60s I am not. People change in size as they age, are ill, are happy, are sad, diet, eat etc. Life happens. Normal ?

I can't be arsed to caveat everything I say on MN anymore tbh. Most people will extrapolate and understand about change with age etc. Besides, there is a fair few stone between a low healthy weight and a high healthy weight.

SheIIy · 06/07/2023 11:41

@KPops22 the point is that she's not 'skinny' in the picture.

Of course, healthy varies. I probably look underweight but I am a healthy weight. Same said for others who weigh more but are still healthy.

timetablesquare · 06/07/2023 12:52

SheIIy · 06/07/2023 09:26

With models, it varies because I know a woman who's tall, too. She is naturally slim, like me. If you're 6', you're going to be slim with little effort.

If you're a 5'7 woman who's modelling, it's a different ballgame because things spread out differently, it won't be so easy

Regardless, nobody deserves to be insulted for their body. It also means teenage girls are having to deal with those insults, not just the bad irresponsible models

Oh lol, I think we're talking about completely different things. 😅 Not sure if you know about 00s high fashion modelling but it's going beyond naturally skinny.. Very obviously, models are naturally skinny. But everyone is starving and competing to get to Isabella Caro etc level. The 5'7" to 6" spreading out thing sounds a bit ridiculous to me tbh.

timetablesquare · 06/07/2023 12:53

@SheIIy nothing to do with "bad irresponsible models" either, everyone HAD to do it and we were encouraged by our agencies to throw up, eat wool, and lots of stupid shit. The modelling scene has changed a lot in the past decade, thank god.

SheIIy · 06/07/2023 13:08

timetablesquare · 06/07/2023 12:53

@SheIIy nothing to do with "bad irresponsible models" either, everyone HAD to do it and we were encouraged by our agencies to throw up, eat wool, and lots of stupid shit. The modelling scene has changed a lot in the past decade, thank god.

Actually it does. Because people blame thin naturally people for existing, hence op making this thread.

If nobody blamed models including naturally thin people, then the body shaming wouldn't be happening

sevenbyseven · 06/07/2023 14:16

This thread seems to have moved on from its original purpose to discussing women's bodies, breast size and weight. Not sure what most of this has to do with feminism?

Real women come in all shapes and sizes, none more "real woman" than any other. Men's bodies seem to attract much less discussion of shape, type, discussion of skinny vs slim vs thin vs normal etc etc.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 06/10/2023 17:36

deydododatdodontdeydo · 04/07/2023 19:07

I see it all the time, posted by women "with curves" mostly, and by the occassional "appreciative" man.
I keep quiet though, I'm like an ironing board and feel like if I said something it would be awkward.

Genuinely, I'd love to be an ironing board.

I have a big bust and i bloody hate them.
I even wear a hoodie, when I'm too hot, just so I can hide them a bit more.

I'd happily do swapsies.

Flyinggeesei234 · 12/10/2023 17:16

For regular examples see comments under M&S or other clothing social media ads. Either ‘how about showing what the dress would look like on a real woman?’ if the model is slim, or ‘thanks for showing the dress on a real woman’ if the model is more curvaceous.

It’s appalling, and I don’t understand how people generally can not see how rude it is.

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