Hate the term real women have curves

[Beanscene]

I know this has probably been done to death, but I honestly hate the term 'real women have curves' , only 'dogs like bones' etc etc etc.....i hear and see it everywhere!!!! Another way to body shame women and to make women feel the only relevant thing about them is their body. You'd think this would have died down but I feel its become worse

I'm slim and very short. I do have an hourglass figure and am actually curvy. But, when I've tried to sell myself as being fit and strong despite being slim and short (MN look down on under 5 footers too - been called not an adult) people just throw teeny tiny back at me because I don't fit the mold.

I have had this my whole life. I am naturally very slim, I take after my Dad.
One time, I wore a summer dress to pick up my children from school. A mum I had never spoken to, came over, looked me up and down and asked me if I had lost weight. She then said I was too skinny. I thought I looked nice but I felt awful after that.
Another time, I was having a scan and the sonographer kept on about my weight and made a big thing about using a child size scanning probe.
I eat well and my BMI is in the normal range.
There have been many more times I have been 'skinny shamed'. I would never comment on a strangers weight.

I've been every weight under the sun... I've never found that magical number on the scales that stopped my body being ripped apart 😂😂 I got a you look like a boy, no one wants to touch someone who looks like a child 😬 too bubble butt and that I'm spilling out over the sides 😂😂

I hate it too op. I'm 8.5 stone and a size 8 but I'm very much 'real' and I have curves too! It's stupid.

I thought 'real women have curves' was coined as a backlash against the heroin chic of the 1990s where all the models were thin and waif was the look promoted as desirable. Could be 'real women also have curves'.

But 'only dogs like bones' is just horrible.

We should all love ourselves but obviously being underweight and overweight is healthy.

Studies have been done on attractiveness and hip to waist ratio is high for the male gaze just as height is for the female gaze.

It’s a primitive response to body shape as well as societal expectation.

As a genuinely curvy women I hate it when ‘curvey’ are used to describe any woman who is plus sized. I am overweight but I am curvy too - the ‘curve ranges’ should have been for people like me. Instead they’re now just another way to say plus sized and are anything but.

And yet, nobody wants to be fat. Go figure.

It's usually applied by/to obese women who are usually I think trying to convince themselves. There's a few adverts at the moment aiming to show very obese women as healthy /desirable body shape. There's curvy and then there's obese.

You can be curvy and plus sized!

im plus sized and pear shaped my hip/waist ratio is 5 inches! Wear 2 different sizes , so u can be fat and curvy and slim and curvy etc

I think it was coined in response to the diet culture of 90s/00s ….
it’s annoying but it’s important to acknowledge privilege if you are skinny the world is catered to your every need really you don’t face street harassment, medical discrimination in the same level and sometimes ppl want to tell themselves that make themselves feel better 🤷‍♀️

I saw a famous woman described as "like an ironing board" and "not feminine" on another site this week. It's a site that generally doesn't criticise women's bodies, but it made me wonder if that applies more to larger women.

Curvy women aren't the only "real women", and slender doesn't mean unfeminine. I never hear equivalent terms used for men.

That’s what overweight women say to make themselves feel a little bit better and as a snakey way of insulting slimmer women.

There was a thread/article on fb about billie elish the other day and I read the comments and nearly every comment was about her body/looks..... Nothing about how talented she is.... A good singer etc....I am glad am not a young woman anymore it must be awful

Skinny women also have curves. It's a ratio, not a weight.

There's a lot of hate for other women on this thread - so disappointing to read.

Althou I have to say... Not that am looking 🤣.... Am married... But my curvier friends do definitely have better luck if out on the pull.. and much more attention from

From men in general. They
can be approached x5 times in a night and I don't tend to exist 🤣

Part of that is the current trend now for what is seen as attractive. I spent my whole life wanting no hips and yet here I am now happy I have a butt and hips.

Same, and I’m an overweight woman with big breasts. It always just sounds like jealousy honestly.

The less said about the creepy men the better. Yes, we know men like big tits. You don’t need to turn that into a movement.

Agreed.

There is an unpleasant subtext to this attention, which is the “fat fun loving” trope, and the idea that girls with big breasts are all slutty. Plus the “you’re fat, you must be desperate”.

Both sides of this (the leering over busty women and the shaming of flat chested women) are grim.

Agree @Beanscene my daughter is 5’ 7” and size 6. She does have body issues due to the ‘real woman’ etc adverts, sayings. I was the same until I got menopause and have put 3 stone. It’s also mentioned on here on the love island thread for example.

I thought this too - particularly when many of the female models looked more like pre-pubescent boys.

I think there has been more of an acceptance that bigger/heavier/whatever word women can wear more revealing clothes than they have in the past. Many of the younger fashion lines have curve and plus lines and show young women in their ads. It's not about boobs though but butts currently - partly from the music industry and partly that a large % of the world's women are more curvy than what we may be used to in the UK. It is attractive to many men and women but I don't see it as you say. I believe currently it's more about the freedom to wear what you want and not to have to starve yourself unlike my mother to be an acceptable size.

How is this more acceptable to say than eg saying" plus sized female models look like fat older men"?

It's not acceptable. A woman is a woman, not a man or boy. Whatever size she is. Some sizes are healthier than others, no doubt. But this pp I'm quoting is part of the problem that op is referring to