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Is Meghan, Duchess of Sussex really a feminist?

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polkadotdalmation · 20/05/2023 08:58

I'm asking here because this is the feminist section and it's nothing to do with her title or husbands royalty.
She accepted a feminism award from a feminist icon (Gloria steinberg) for her feminist work.

I'm not interested in her stand against racism or any of her other projects, and don't want to muddy the waters with these questions.

So is she a feminist icon?

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Hadasah · 28/06/2023 09:38

Roussette · 27/06/2023 14:01

What a horrible post, nothing like doing another woman down because of the nonsense you read in the gutter press .
You don't know her so how you can speak with such venom, I have no idea

That is not accurate. I'm not tearing her down. Fighting for a cause is not the same as selecting any cause you come across for future "use." True feminists typically have a cause and stick with it throughout their lives, which indicates that they have a clear goal. She doesn't; instead, she simply distorts and use every topic to suit her purposes "in the name of feminism and women's rights." As Eleanor Roosevelt and Gloria Steinem fought for women's equality; Mary Wollstonecraft and Emmeline Pankhurst supported women's voting rights. She makes an effort to interact with genuine activists, but this does not qualify her as a genuine feminist activist.

Can you name one particular topic where she genuinely has an impact (apart from the advertisement she did when she was a child)? She's almost reached the point in her half-life where the outcomes ought to have appeared. I used to sympathise with her.

Who cares about awards anymore? Is this really the point of feminism? You should take sincere action.

Merriam Webster's dictionary, an egomaniac is someone who is excessively preoccupied with their own needs, wants, or interests. It's just a word with a lot of meaning; it's not venom.

Charlize43 · 29/06/2023 22:51

Haywirecity · 30/05/2023 17:36

Feminism is supposed to support free speech of women, not close it down. If your form of feminism actually forbids me from being critical of women such as Liz Truss, Angela Raynor, Jo Swinson, Nicola Sturgeon, Michelle O'Neill, the Princess of Wales, the Duchess of Sussex, my mother, then that is not a form of feminism that I recognise or indeed want to recognise.

Shouty Swinson? I think she closed herself down singlehandedly.

AnAngelAtMyTableWithMe · 03/07/2023 15:11

True feminists typically have a cause and stick with it throughout their lives, which indicates that they have a clear goal.

Are you for real? This is your criticism? She's not doing it right because she doesn't focus on a single issue? ridiculous.

freetheunicorn1 · 16/07/2023 00:34

FloofCloud · 20/05/2023 09:04

Not to me, she's married to elevate herself

Did she marry to elevate herself? Or did the misogynist media just manipulate that?

42wordsfordrizzle · 18/07/2023 22:25

I think she has said she's a feminist, so she is one, but I don't think she's done anything notable to support feminism or women - she's just famous, for now.

I think it cheapens the award when it's given to someone just to get publicity, particularly when it's someone who is famous by dint of their family rather than anything they've achieved themselves.

If she was still that actress off Suits I suspect she wouldn't be receiving awards for feminism and challenging racism.

BeckyWithTheAverageHair · 18/07/2023 22:32

I think she has said she's a feminist, so she is one, but I don't think she's done anything notable to support feminism or women - she's just famous, for now.

That's not strictly true. Her Grenfell cookbook and Smartworks capsule wardrobe were good initiatives. Even her much-derided banana writing led to the charity in question receiving more donations than they ever had before.

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JustaChristian · 05/08/2023 21:29

married into that institution and a feminist? no. a social ladder climber through marriage

Brumbrumbrumbrummie · 06/08/2023 01:20

BeckyWithTheAverageHair · 18/07/2023 22:32

I think she has said she's a feminist, so she is one, but I don't think she's done anything notable to support feminism or women - she's just famous, for now.

That's not strictly true. Her Grenfell cookbook and Smartworks capsule wardrobe were good initiatives. Even her much-derided banana writing led to the charity in question receiving more donations than they ever had before.

OP seems to have disappeared, funny that...

Exactly this

no one is perfect, and you can’t possibly champion all of the causes you care about all of the time.
she’s chosen (in my view) great projects to support, and amplified local voices. That’s what I try to do, it’s all any of us can do.

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