Is Meghan, Duchess of Sussex really a feminist?

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I'm asking here because this is the feminist section and it's nothing to do with her title or husbands royalty.
She accepted a feminism award from a feminist icon (Gloria steinberg) for her feminist work.

I'm not interested in her stand against racism or any of her other projects, and don't want to muddy the waters with these questions.

So is she a feminist icon?

i think Meghan is a feminist. I’m a feminist. But I don’t believe OP cares wether Meghan is a feminist or not. OP has been heavily invested in criticising Meghan for many many things. I have formed this opinion because OP is constantly criticising Meghan on the Royal Family forums: I think this is not very feminist of OP - that’s only my opinion.

(good night all, it’s night where I am and it’s time to watch a movie - a British ghost movie. The British do these better than anyone imo.)

So what is the list of campaigns women have to be involved in, in order for you to accept them as a feminist? Di you understand your scrutiny of what a woman does or does not do in this regard is in itself, misogyny? Women do not have to tackle all the evils of the world in order to call themselves a feminist. That's an unfair burden to place on any woman.

Well what’s the point if awarding a woman an award for feminism if it’s pointless. It was a public given award and therefore about scrutiny.

It isn't given to women based on the fact they cover all campaigns and all issues though. I mean the fact she got an award doesn't mean she has to have tackled every feminist issue to receive it because that would be impossible for any woman and nothing to do with feminism. If your position is that its pointless because she hasn't tackled the feminist issues important to you I would suggest that is unbelievably unreasonable. She has campaigned about feminist issues since before she met Harry and all the women and girls she helped through that work are no less important than any of the women and girls impacted by any other issue or situation.

Umm, she got the award because Glorua Steinhem wanted to give her a leg up. At least that's what Gloria said - paraphrasing of course. Which is not , of course, to say she's not a feminist. She spoke out about women's issues before her marriage. No awards given to her then, though because she wasn't married to the queen's grandson. There are tons of women who say the same as her and do more, who'd never even get a look-in for an award from Steinem.
I'd say she's a feminist like the vast majority of women. But she didnt get the award for being a feminist, she got the award for marrying well.

You’re reading too much into it.
I don’t think she’s any more or less feminist than any other woman with her credentials. I’m not sure if she’s done anything to promote women though.

I don't think I am, I actually think you are. She has done so much work helping and 'promoting' women, before and since her marriage. There's a lot of information out there if you care to look.

Sorry, I meant that you are reading too much into my comments.
I don’t think she’s any more or less feminist then others of her ilk as I said before. The fact I know more about what she wears and her feelings, rather than any projects she’s been involved with says it better.
I’m certainly not interested in her enough to bother to find out information. That would be her job to put out there if the idea is promotion of womens causes.

I’m sure she’s not a fan of sexism and misogyny but then who is.

The fact I know more about what she wears and her feelings, rather than any projects she’s been involved with says it better.
I’m certainly not interested in her enough to bother to find out information. That would be her job to put out there if the idea is promotion of womens causes.

I'm afraid that probably has more to do with what media you normally read and what you've been exposed to. I knew of her work with menstrual issues in India for example. If you don't bother to find out you can't really make a comment on whether she deserves an award or not.

She has done so much work helping and 'promoting' women, before and since her marriage.

If she did so much before she married the grandson of a queen, why didn't she receive an award then? Why does she only deserve it now?

I don't Know! maybe she did! what the heck does that prove?

Nah. Come on. You've made an effort to read about her. You'd know if she'd received an award.
She introduced herself to Gloria Steinhem and arranged for them to do work for the Democratic Party together. Gloria then considered her a mate and said she'd help her in any way she could and gave her the award. If you read the bios of the 4 winners, there's no comparison in work done and achieved.
I quite like causes that Meghan has supported and donated to. I like that they do charity work and try to pay back. I really support that. But you've only got to stick your nose a bit into the charity award circle schtick to smell manure. It doesn't take away from Meghans work for women and girls, but let's not kid ourselves that she'd have got that award if she hadn't married PH.

Is this feminism? Devaluing a woman's contributions and efforts because of who she is married to?

But that’s exactly it. I read a variety of material and broadcast material. Mostly what comes up is opinion pieces and in depth analysis of what she is wearing. Yet she has every opportunity to be known for something else. Princess Di walked through land mines and held the hands of HIV patients.
If Meghan wanted to be known for her work with period poverty rather than her preference for neutral colours , she could do something way more substantive then something I need to “ find out “ about. The Daily Standard claims “ never seen before footage” of her on the trip. Yet she is one of the most followed women in the world. How hard can it be to get actual publicity for this cause?

And actually ( sorry I’m cross about this) how reductive to make it about Indian women like it’s a problem only associated with poorer others. Why not admit that even in the richest countries every woman has had a period moment of stuffing something in her pants or having to tie something round their waist to hide a bit of staining or planning something like playing the football World Cup in white shorts or a wedding in a white dress with a trip to the doctors.

It’s pretty basic that periods are a horribly problematic part of being a woman. She’s had them. She knows what it is and how it’s just as unacceptable her side of town. Why put it on the Indian women to make the case?

Is it feminism awarding someone because of whom they're married to?

I would politely suggest you do some research into why India needs it highlighted before you launch into an attack on a campaign she supported, but did not start, that is spearheaded by Indian women. Its an Indian organisation. Go look it up. They are who you are attacking.

If Meghan wanted to be known for her work with period poverty rather than her preference for neutral colours

Do you realise you're on the feminism board?? Honestly some of your comments are embarrassing. If you're reading trashy media that focusses on her clothes, that is your problem. She can't control what they focus on. Diana had far ore articles written about her clothes than her campaigns.

She is an egomaniac who will do whatever it takes to promote herself. She would have acted similarly for men's advocation if she had been a man. Even H is only a tool for her opulent and prestigios existence because she does this so naturally and with such ease.

What a horrible post, nothing like doing another woman down because of the nonsense you read in the gutter press .
You don't know her so how you can speak with such venom, I have no idea

You don’t know her either and I cannot comprehend how you can continue to defend and excuse her often questionable behaviour with such certainty. Accusing other people of being “venomous” because they say something you don’t like is pretty unpleasant in itself actually.

I didn't start it. I don't write like that about anyone except perhaps a mass murderer or someone evil

If you don't think she's been bullied, pulled down, targeted endlessly, and there isn't a multi million dollar hate industry around her, I feel for you.

Yes she's wrong at times, yes she's done stupid things but calling her the names in that post is horrible. IN MY OPINION which I am entitled to express on a discussion forum

Of course you’re entitled to your opinion, we all are. Telling people they’re “venomous” and using language describing how you “feel for them” because essentially they’re not thinking just like you about a celebrity and her foolish behaviour, makes you exactly the same as every other poster on here who uses strong descriptors when discussing Meghan or others. I cannot fathom how you don’t see that you’re no better than anyone else on here.

We are all equal.

However I found the post horrible, calling her an egomaniac, and using Harry as 'a tool', WTAF..

I didn't call the poster venomous, read back what I said which was questioning how someone can speak with venom about a woman they don't know, there's a difference

I won't be responding to you again as you didn't even write what I took issue with ! And your post is sounding very personal to me, not interested in prolonging this

When did Roussette say she was better than anyone? It isn't about 'not thinking the same', it's about going beyond the point of critical observation and into just plain hatred. Over what? None of this is proportionate to what her detractors perceive she has done. Its a completely over the top reaction to describe her the way some people here have, and on a feminism board to say she uses her husband as a tool, without any evidence at all of this, deserves calling out. I'm not sure why you're honing in on @Roussette here but its unnecessary and unwarranted.