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Amber Heard&Johnny Depp verdict

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Miscfeminista · 31/05/2022 14:28

Continuation of previous thread

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552076-amber-heardjohnny-depp-trial?page=36&reply=117586863

Speculations on verdict, news related to it, insights into specifics of legal matters, opinions and impressions…let’s keep it going and see how verdict finds us >>>>>>>>>>

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ChuckBerrysBoots · 05/06/2022 20:10

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:03

And that idiot has a blue tick!!!!

I’ve no idea who she is so I’m not really sure what you think her opinion adds to the discussion? It’s not like Heard is asking people to post this stuff on her behalf.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:17

Chuck

I'm sorry but anyone with a blue tick that drags race into their argument for AH needs calling out. They're using the card, as Amber would say, to curry favour.

Obviously it's not working and do I believer her PR company are behind a lot of those. Yes. Just like earlier in the thread JDs team have been accused of the same.

Just adding some balance.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:20

Just like this blue ticked cow. Perpetually posting shit.

Except she also represented Harvey Weinstein.......

Amber Heard&Johnny Depp verdict
TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:21

She also effectively shut down two survivors in that post blaming JD

I don't think she's an advocate for women.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:21

She also effectively shut down two survivors in that post blaming JD

I don't think she's an advocate for women.

ChuckBerrysBoots · 05/06/2022 20:28

Honestly don’t see the relevance of people most of us have never heard of vomiting their opinions all over Twitter, it’s weird.

FrippEnos · 05/06/2022 20:30

ChuckBerrysBoots · 05/06/2022 20:10

I’ve no idea who she is so I’m not really sure what you think her opinion adds to the discussion? It’s not like Heard is asking people to post this stuff on her behalf.

Except that when it is in favour of JD it is Deppheads, or bots.

We either us the same levels for both sides or the hypocrisy should be called out.

IrisVersicolor · 05/06/2022 20:32

Sunshinegirl82 · 05/06/2022 18:17

@IrisVersicolor
Oh, I though this paragraph in your post that quoted mine, was asking the question to me?

"But to take it at face value, are you really arguing that Hicksville man was telling the truth and Pennington was lying her face off? If so can you provide any evidence or even a rationale for this."

I asked the question originally of @carolineshaw

I’d forgotten I referred it to you when you jumped into the discussion.

Neither of you could answer (beyond your platitudes about the jury).

ChuckBerrysBoots · 05/06/2022 20:34

I’d be saying the same about pro-Depp comments from no-marks on Twitter as well to be fair! But finding myself putting too much store in the opinions of people on Twitter was one of the reasons I deleted it about a year ago.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:35

C*huck
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I'd rather vomit my opinion over Twitter with free speech and let others do the same, even if it gets ugly than rely on biased MSM any day.

TheEnemy123 · 05/06/2022 20:39

Alb0 · 05/06/2022 16:45

There is also in my mind, a big difference between a nagging and abusive wife who has a mouth like a sailor and is loud and abusive on a recording, to a larger, stronger man (women are more vulnerable) doing the same but add in smashing up rooms and headbutting. At the bare minimum. I think lies or not, Depp still comes out looking far worse because of the sheer strength and threat he as a man poses. His bite can be worse than his bark. Whereas with Heard, her bark is worse than her bite. She never had the power he does.

So you're basically admitting that you think men should be treated differently and always looked at as potential abusers? Makes sense, hence why some on here seem to be unable to process the verdicts.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:39

Anyway Chuck you've conveniently said you ignore Twitter but I posted Weinstein's handmaidens opinion on JD and what she said to those two survivors.

Also she's backing another liar and abuser. I doubt she's had a labotomy or change of heart in the meantime.

Thoughts?

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:47

"Whereas with Heard, her bark is worse than her bite"

Except she bit him really hard. AH is a liar.

I don't doubt he did things but I firmly believe it was reactive. She was the aggressor and the instigator. She also has previous.

I've listened to a 5 hour recording and I swear to god that man has the patience of a saint. I have been in an abusive relationship and I was reactive. I reacted far far FAR faster than him and I was half the size of my abuser. That piss taking, cackling she does, honest to god....

And no victim does that. React yes but that's not reacting that's taunting.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:50

Oh and that audio was after she filed the TRO then turned up at his hotel room.

IrisVersicolor · 05/06/2022 20:51

I understand that to some people a real life barrister may seem as exciting as I dunno a Hollywood star, but forgive me if I’m underwhelmed. He’s just a bloke with a webcam like any other.

It has been said repeatedly on here, and some posters seem incapable of taking this on board, that reactive violence is common in abusive relationships.

One snippet of audio of Heard admitting to hitting Depp signifies precisely nothing out of context.

For the sake of argument - if a man hits a woman 10 times and she hits him once but that once is caught on audio - how representative of the relationship is it?

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:53

Depp was the reactive one.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:54

"I understand that to some people a real life barrister may seem as exciting as I dunno a Hollywood star"

I know. I'll put him alongside all the other lawyers who know there stuff, including those in the case. Hollywood stars they are not but they know a damn sight more about the process than us

ChuckBerrysBoots · 05/06/2022 20:55

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:39

Anyway Chuck you've conveniently said you ignore Twitter but I posted Weinstein's handmaidens opinion on JD and what she said to those two survivors.

Also she's backing another liar and abuser. I doubt she's had a labotomy or change of heart in the meantime.

Thoughts?

I don’t have any thoughts because I don’t see that anything she would have to say is relevant to the case, any more than anything I have to say would be - she’s not Depp, Heard or either of their legal reps, she wasn’t a witness or a juror. I just find posting random people’s opinions from Twitter as some kind of “gotcha” for or against Heard (or Depp for that matter) is odd, that’s all.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:58

"I don’t have any thoughts because I don’t see that anything she would have to say is relevant to the case, any more than anything I have to say would be - she’s not Depp, Heard or either of their legal reps, she wasn’t a witness or a juror. I just find posting random people’s opinions from Twitter as some kind of “gotcha” for or against Heard (or Depp for that matter) is odd, that’s all"

How convenient. There were jurors there though but apparently they were wrong.

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 21:00

Anyway I've seen many posts commenting on depp bots but all of a sudden no one wants to admit pro AH supporters, although evidenced, are just if not more shit.

Excuse, excuse, excuse or I'm not watching that, or that person is irrelevant.

Hmmmmmm

IrisVersicolor · 05/06/2022 21:05

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 20:53

Depp was the reactive one.

Oh really? What was he reacting to when he smashed up place after place, when he threw a bottle with Ellen Barkin, when he allegedly assaulted a movie location manager?

Where is the evidence from mutual friends such as Raquel Pennington that they feared for his safety with Amber?

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 21:09

Barkin. He didn't throw the bottle at her and in her testimony changed it to "tossed"

Next question...

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 21:11

Rachel Pennington.

A freeloader leech who had the life of Riley and was hoping for a penthouse out of the divorce settlement. Didn't happen. Fell out with Heard. Didn't testify in Virginia. Relied on a 2019 video statement

Next question....

IrisVersicolor · 05/06/2022 21:14

And no victim does that. React yes but that's not reacting that's taunting

Taunting, goading, winding up is not uncommon in abusive relationships.

Wind the aggressor up, get punched, feel like shit, confirm low self esteem and self loathing. Rinse and repeat.

But you know that right because you know all about abusive relationships.

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