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Tan France dismissing Breast Milk

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LizziesTwin · 05/08/2021 06:05

This was on my Instagram feed this morning and has made me so angry. He and his partner rented a womb and bought an egg from a woman and are now knocking breast feeding.

Tan France dismissing Breast Milk
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OhHolyJesus · 07/08/2021 22:30

That's how I found myself on Mumsnet.

Ditto, I think many of us found resources, advice and support that were just not available elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't have found out half of what I know about breastfeeding from a man who just bought a baby!

It's really important actually to have a space, online or otherwise, to talk about breastfeeding, if you want too.

I didn't want to give up but got thrush so badly I couldn't see how I could carry on. My GP couldn't help, the prescription actually made it worse, but grapefruit seed extract that I heard about from an MN poster, worked and I carried on until 13 months. It's something I'm really proud of (and my pride doesn't shame others), it's just something I really wanted to do and it was ultimately MN that helped make that possible.

It was a very bad ad campaign to start with, made worse by including and promoting a man who hasn't the first clue about pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding.

Sometimes I'd actually like to see a man try it (though I wouldn't sacrifice a child's health for a man's validation) just to see how long they can manage to get up every two hours at the beginning and have regularly disturbed sleep for months and months, with mastitis and other infections and still function as a father.

Imagine the cluster feeds!

NiceGerbil · 07/08/2021 22:47

He has, for a few quid presumably.

Wandered into a topic that is-
Really personal to individual women. Causes a lot of upset.
Has a very important global and historical context.
Globally is a massive issue for both mothers and babies. Malnourishment. Death. Not exactly trivial.
It is s topic for WOMEN. A huge important topic encompassing. Capitalism and companies behaving deeply unethically.
The messaging. Barriers. Social views. How that makes so many women feel. The lack of support. The differences in all this around the world.
I mean for fucks sake.

His arrogance is mind boggling.

MilesOfSand · 08/08/2021 03:07

Remembering this article. Tan’s post is just another angle on it, isn’t it, this time it’s socially shaming us into not mentioning that pesky free thing that only women can do.

Couchbettato · 08/08/2021 17:41

@HelloEmbarrassing

If it’s an ad, shouldn’t it be marked as such? Don’t people get into trouble with unlabelled sponsored posts? Pissed me right off too seeing it this morning
Pretty sure it also breaches the international code of marketing of breastfeeding substitutes too.
stairway · 08/08/2021 20:18

The sad thing is he was probably paid more for doing this promotion then his surrogate got for the whole pregnancy, Bobbies would never be interested in why she couldn’t breastfeed.

JulesJules · 08/08/2021 22:26

Yes to all the points PPs have made, this has made me so angry. BF can't be done by men or monetised for their advantage so let's undermine it.

Re: making up formula feeds though, several people have mentioned the availability of 'clean water' - it's not just that, the temperature of the water used to make up feeds is crucial as formula powder is not sterile and may contain cronobacter or salmonella. Water has to be hot enough to kill the bacteria in the formula itself.

MilesOfSand · 08/08/2021 23:45

@stairway

The sad thing is he was probably paid more for doing this promotion then his surrogate got for the whole pregnancy, Bobbies would never be interested in why she couldn’t breastfeed.
Interesting thought.
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