Woman arrested for attempting to get access a horse for sexual act purposes

[OhHolyJesus]

“Arizona Woman Arrested For Using Craiglist To Find A Horse To Have Sex With”

And to be more specific so to save of link clicks:

Waelde’s post in the Missed Connections section, which was published on April 8, stated: “I am 22 years old and I want to play with a male Horse. simple as that. If you have access to a Male horse, and can allow me access to a male horse, then contact me please 😉 I will do something in return.”

www.bolde.com/arizona-woman-craigslist-horse-sex/

All I will say is at 22 you have to wonder what this person has been exposed to in their young life to be interested in such an undertaking.

You are being ridiculous. I'm concerned for you.

That's kind of you. Please spare some concern for any animals your old acquaintance might be accessing. I'm sure the police will find illegal material on his devices, likely including imagery of children being sexually abused.

@ScrollingLeaves

This is all extraordinarily upsetting.

It is beyond belief that in our society it is considered ‘the law’ to report a human male’s crime as a woman’s.

It is horrific that animal sexual abuse is this prevalent ……and must indeed often be either a first step towards, or included alongside, other sexual abuse of powerless humans.

Has this animal abuse been linked in with the Animal Sentience bill?

Should we be writing to our MPs about both issues: the mis-sexing of crimes, and animal sexual abuse in light of the new bill being discussed?

Googling, I haven’t been able to come across a U.K. website outlying the law about the sexual abuse of animals. Can anyone link one?

Does Germany truly have animal brothels?
The story of the chimp stolen from her mother and being used sexually is heartbreaking. It also makes one see again and all the more the awfulness of trafficked women and children too and the criminality of anyone else using them. The mentality of the abusers must be similarly foul in all cases.

Denmark and Germany only very recently made bestiality illegal. It is not illegal in Hungary, Finland and Romania.

In the UK bestiality is a crime in its own right and likely to be prosecuted along with other crimes in relation to cruelty, failure to seek treatment etc.

The UK, along with Switzerland, New Zealand and Austria has been awarded a grade A rating on the Animal Protection Index. Both England and Wales and Scotland are looking to introduce legislation in relation to recognising sentience.

The story of the orang-utan is one of the most distressing things I've read in a very, very long time.

The story of the orang-utan is one of the most distressing things I've read in a very, very long time.

I'm sorry, I should have put a trigger warning on, it's an old story, one that doesn't get any less horrific with time, but one relevant to my OP and it serves as an example of how extreme animal abuse of a sexual nature can and does happen.

To share something positive on Pony the orangutan...

"I met Pony shortly after she was rescued. Her resilience is amazing,’ Ms Desilets said.
‘Despite the trauma, she maintained a dignity, and sense of humour.
‘She had the best personality, and learned how to trust very quickly, despite what she’d been through."

(Don't necessarily click this link but I share as this is where the quote comes from).

Pony has a good life now. Good people found her and have kept her safe.

metro.co.uk/2018/11/26/orangutan-was-shaved-made-to-wear-jewellery-and-used-as-a-prostitute-8179714/

OhHolyJesus

Not blaming you in the slightest for posting it. It needs to be told.

That poor orangutan. And she still knew who were men after she was rescued.

Jorriss

I doubt anyone requires the concern of someone who casually dismisses their friend raping a sheep. And then choosing to do nothing about that. Low moral standards indeed. Revolting.

DoingItMyself is either a troll or has no moral compass whatsoever. Disgusting

@KimikosNightmare

Thank you for your answers about the law and bestiality.

DoingItMyself is either a troll or has no moral compass whatsoever. Disgusting

Seeing as they do have some posting history on MN I'm going to assume it's the latter.

@KimikosNightmare

OhHolyJesus

Not blaming you in the slightest for posting it. It needs to be told.

Thank you, and I agree.

We should never be afraid to discuss the actions of these disgusting animal abuser.

I also thank you for your post re recent laws around beastiality in other European countries. That too is shocking, that they are recent.

As a side note, legislation around experiments on animals in the U.K. date back to the early 1800s, you would hope that similar concerns would apply to animal abuse, particularly in developed countries.

Yes.

@Workinghardeveryday

Wasn’t there an English queen who regularly did this?!

No: where did you get that idea from?

Rumours were spread about Catherine the Great of Russia, who was a very successful Russian empress whose rule saw the expansion of Russia. Trump spread rumours to ruin Hillary Clinton's reputation, rivals told lies about Catherine the Great. Nothing new under the sun. Men hate successful, powerful women.

[quote AlfonsoTheMango]@RaindropsOnRosie - The person's sex is male. They may identify as being trans but their sex is male. It is right that sex crimes be recorded in the perpetrator's correct sex and not their gender identification.[/quote]
She doesn't 'identify' as trans, she is trans and female. Do you not understand the difference between 'sex' and 'sex'? How concerning...

Difference between sex and sex?

No I don't understand

@WallaceinAnderland

Her sex is her business. Her sex with horses isn't.

Isn't what?

Her sex with horses isn't her business, and can be discussed by the public as all crimes can. Her sex/gender/whatever transphobes are calling it this week is her business and doesn't need to be discussed or disproved on a thread like this.

I really don't understand why the sexual abuse of an animal has anything to do with the sex of the woman committing it? How odd that transphobes can leach on to such teeny tiny links.

@Chickenyhead

Difference between sex and sex?

No I don't understand

Bless

A man wants to give a horse a bj and it's being recorded as a women's crime.

Pretty straightforward.

Deary me @RaindropsOnRosie

The sex of this pervert is male.

I really don't understand why the sexual abuse of an animal has anything to do with the sex of the woman committing it?

That is fine. Others will have read the thread and will see that we are objecting to this being described as a female sex crime. And that it is also being used as clickbait which very much adds to the male view that this is a female sex act for their entertainment.

Your framing it as being transphobic to discuss this as an issue is a theme you have continued across many threads. However, you never seem to provide anything constructive by way of reasoning. You seem to be just set on aiming that pointy finger of shame.

That is fine too. Because those reading these threads see the lack of actual engagement, the lack of considered thought, critical thinking and discussion and realise that assertions by posters that this is transphobic is rather empty.

I really don't understand why the sexual abuse of an animal has anything to do with the sex of the woman committing it? How odd that transphobes can leach on to such teeny tiny links.

Because it's NOT a woman committing it it is a man, a person of the sex classification male, this crime should not ever be registered as a crime committed by a woman because it wasn't.

How deep into TRA ideology do you have to be to complicit with crimes committed by males as being recorded as being committed by females and to be upset and horrified that people point out the insidious nature of doing so, and furthermore to think that the person committing this crime should be housed in the female prison estate if and when sentenced. Un-fucking-believable.

It's not "sex with horses". Stop. Minimising. Bestiality.

I don’t care what his supposed ‘gender’ is. He is male. In other words, he is a man. His crime is a man’s crime and should be recorded as such. Sex is immutable and does not change.

I really don't understand why the sexual abuse of an animal has anything to do with the sex of the woman committing it? How odd that transphobes can leach on to such teeny tiny links.

It was a man committing it. Not a woman. So it needs to be recorded as a male crime. Obviously.

@Jorriss

I really don't understand why the sexual abuse of an animal has anything to do with the sex of the woman committing it? How odd that transphobes can leach on to such teeny tiny links.

It was a man committing it. Not a woman. So it needs to be recorded as a male crime. Obviously.

Honestly it's amazing that this has needed to be pointed out a couple of times and that people STILL think this is controversial / terrible/ transphobic.

It's fucking surreal.

Honestly it's amazing that this has needed to be pointed out a couple of times and that people STILL think this is controversial / terrible/ transphobic.

Well, to be fair. When you are that invested in pushing the mantra for whatever reason ( belief to support a loved one through to just pure hatred of women disagreeing with you) there is actually no where that you can go. You can ignore the thread, which you can see many people do. Or you can continue to post in a manner that overly simplifies the subject and in the name of righteousness calls out phobia that isn't actually there while actually not ever providing anything of substance to persuade those reading along.

It is a ploy that we see plenty of and it is actually quite a good live demonstration of how weak the foundation of their thinking actually is. There is nothing that they can post in support, just continued tone policing, ill conceived 'gotchas', attempts at distraction, dismissal of inconvenient facts, and the censuring, reprimanding and scolding of women.

And I am talking generally here, not about any particular poster.