Woman arrested for attempting to get access a horse for sexual act purposes

[OhHolyJesus]

“Arizona Woman Arrested For Using Craiglist To Find A Horse To Have Sex With”

And to be more specific so to save of link clicks:

Waelde’s post in the Missed Connections section, which was published on April 8, stated: “I am 22 years old and I want to play with a male Horse. simple as that. If you have access to a Male horse, and can allow me access to a male horse, then contact me please 😉 I will do something in return.”

www.bolde.com/arizona-woman-craigslist-horse-sex/

All I will say is at 22 you have to wonder what this person has been exposed to in their young life to be interested in such an undertaking.

[IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves]

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Doea anyone else think this is a moral event horizon?

Someone here has just minimised sexual abuse of animals as simply "sex with horses" and has focused on whether we're being sufficiently respectful to the person who wanted to sexually assault an animal.

What the actual hell?

Nothing surprises me with that lot
No crime is greater than calling someone with a penis a man. What they are doing with said penis pales into insignificance. 🙄

[Leafstamp]

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

When male crimes are being recorded as being committed by females, it is our business.

Exactly. Women are getting blamed for crimes committed by men. It is skewing crime statistics, as well as putting women prisoners at risk from male sex offenders being put in women’s prisons.

Just another reminder, there’s a petition on the petitions board about exactly this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard

[Datun]

When male crimes are being recorded as being committed by females, it is our business.

Exactly.

Being told one is not allowed to correctly identify the sex of those far more likely to commit sex offences, is a safeguarding issue.

And those who continue to advocate for it are complicit.

[MarshmallowSwede]

I would like to point out the attempt to gaslight a large group of women.

Ladies this is what gaslighting looks like in real time.

“Well women abuse animals too”.

“Pointing out that this is a trans woman is transphobic”.

“Misgendering someone who wants to have sex with a horse is a crime”.

The mental gymnastics pro trans activists are willing to do is astounding! Basically no matter what, it seems like if a trans woman commits a crime then we are supposed to excuse them.

[Helleofabore]

The mental gymnastics pro trans activists are willing to do is astounding! Basically no matter what, it seems like if a trans woman commits a crime then we are supposed to excuse them.

The scariest part of their posts is the very fact that they cannot see just how they are happy that females are blamed for male crimes, and that they are so willing to accommodate male sex crimes being normalised as female behaviour.

They simply cannot see where their actions will lead or they choose not to because it starts the dissonance that will mean that they will never again be able to unsee what motivates the agenda for this normalisation.

[RadandMad]

They simply cannot see where their actions will lead or they choose not to because it starts the dissonance that will mean that they will never again be able to unsee what motivates the agenda for this normalisation.

@Helleofabore Oh, I think they can see it all right. They just don't care.

[RedDogsBeg]

I think they see exactly where their actions lead Hellofabore, they just don't care, refuse to acknowledge or admit it, being on the infamous right side of history is far more important to them so they happily step over the casualties.

[Helleofabore]

You are probably right Rad and Red. That is why when the hard questions are asked they seem to disappear and never account for their statements.

I do live in hope though that others reading along will see that the questions and comments always go unanswered by those who seek to silence, distract and dismiss using those shaming tactics.

And I always hope to see a new study or some new robust statistics to back up their assertions. I do read them, just like so many other regulars.... maybe that is the problem.

[UnRavellingFast]

@ShadowInVain

Quite apart from anything else I would have thought messing with a horse in that way would be downright dangerous. A kick in the head could be fatal.

And well deserved! Weird as hell and also if she’d ever seen a horse aroused (I have in NORMAL circs on a farm ) she’d know her revolting dreams were doomed!

[PaterPower]

In respect to the Derbyshire Times article, the woman charged with buggery of a dog:

“Judith Button, 58, of Wingfield Road, faces 10 charges of buggery with a dog between 1987 and 2004 and 10 of penetrative sex with a dog between 2004 and 2019.”

lives at the same address as:

“David Twiname, 73, also of Wingfield Road, is charged with 28 offences including five of raping a girl under the age of 16, possessing extreme animal porn and indecent photos of children.”

The article, and others online about the three defendants, states that their cases are linked. It’s not a massive mental leap to postulate that ‘David’ has likely pushed his (15 years younger) partner ‘Judith’ into committing the acts of bestiality for his own gratification and possibly profit.

Doesn’t excuse her for her actions, nor for her not reporting the child rapes or pornography, but I’d put money on there being an element of coercion involved here.

[ChiefClerkDrumknott]

Was it anyone else’s first question when they saw the thread title? Even before reading the OP?

Wasn’t even a question to me 😬

[Ninkanink]

@RadandMad

They simply cannot see where their actions will lead or they choose not to because it starts the dissonance that will mean that they will never again be able to unsee what motivates the agenda for this normalisation.

*@Helleofabore* Oh, I think they can see it all right. They just don't care.

This.

There are many people who want exactly this erosion of boundaries around conduct. It’s not just innocent naive people bumbling along, oops we really didn’t see where this was going to go’.

That horse has bolted (pun wholly intended).

[Rhannion]

@Workinghardeveryday

Wasn’t there an English queen who regularly did this?!

No there wasn’t, but the enemies of Catherine the Great made up propaganda about her involving a horse. It’s not true.

[Rhannion]

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

I believe MN have clarified in the past that we don't need to extend courtesies to convicted child abusers, as rape is a great deal more rude than pronouns. I think we should be able to bracket people who want to rape animals with child rapists, yes?

Yes, definitely not our crime

[DoingItMyself]

Was a few years ago now but one of my neighbours was convicted of shagging her horse. It made the papers.

Further back still, I recall a woman crashed her car to avoid getting home with her husband because he wanted her to have sex with his German Shepherd dog again. He liked to watch. That was in the local press, too.

Oh, and somewhere along the way, a woman was in the news for having sex with a dolphin. That was international, there aren't many dolphins in Greater Manchester.

What possesses these people, I do not know.

[YetAnotherSpartacus]

Further back still, I recall a woman crashed her car to avoid getting home with her husband because he wanted her to have sex with his German Shepherd dog again. He liked to watch. That was in the local press, too.

What possesses these people, I do not know

In this case, can we surmise she was 'possessed' by an abusive man?

[BatmansBat]

@DoingItMyself please, I find it quite awful that you refer to the sexual abuse of animals as “shagging” and “having sex” with. It minimises the issue and suggests consent.

This is a horrific abuse and I hope anyone involved in anything like it will go to jail for a long time.

[PurgatoryOfPotholes]

Just for the purposes of clarification, when a woman crashes her car to avoid participating in a sex act or sexual offence, it demonstrates that she is in an extremely abusive relationship and also the depth of coercion in the relationship.

What a horrible, despicable man.

[DoingItMyself]

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Just for the purposes of clarification, when a woman crashes her car to avoid participating in a sex act or sexual offence, it demonstrates that she is in an extremely abusive relationship and also the depth of coercion in the relationship.

What a horrible, despicable man.

Absolutely. It was horrible and shocking, and I'd never heard of such a thing until I read about it in the paper. It opened my eyes to the level of abuse possible in some relationships. This was long ago, before MN.

@BatmansBat, no, consent is not implied. It's all abuse. My ex's friend kept two sheep, secretly from his wife. They didn't consent, either.

[OhHolyJesus]

[quote BatmansBat]@DoingItMyself please, I find it quite awful that you refer to the sexual abuse of animals as “shagging” and “having sex” with. It minimises the issue and suggests consent.

This is a horrific abuse and I hope anyone involved in anything like it will go to jail for a long time.[/quote]
I agree and even this is strange wording.

Can an orangutang 'prostitute' herself and therefore be a 'prostitute'.

The headline would be better written as "men sexually abuse orangutan in Borneo"

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7829159/the-horrifying-story-of-a-prostitute-orangutan-who-was-chained-to-a-bed-shaved-daily-and-forced-to-perform-sex-acts-on-men-twice-her-size/

The text reads:

"Knowing what was expected, Pony would gyrate her hips when a punter came to the door before being raped by men twice the size of her who paid her owner for the experience.

Stolen from her mum as a baby, the gentle ape’s entire body was shaved every other day, leaving her skin irritated, covered in sores and prone to mosquito bites - and she was taught how to perform sex acts."

[DoingItMyself]

@OhHolyJesus - that's another shocker.

[BatmansBat]

@DoingItMyself your ex’s friend sexually abused sheep?? OMG, that is appalling. Please tell me that you reported this disgusting creep to the police?

[DoingItMyself]

[quote BatmansBat]@DoingItMyself your ex’s friend sexually abused sheep?? OMG, that is appalling. Please tell me that you reported this disgusting creep to the police?[/quote]
Erm... I can't prove that he did... and it was a long time ago. He was indeed a disgusting creep, that was the impression he gave.

[PurgatoryOfPotholes]

It is the police's job to investigate allegations, gather evidence and build a case. You don't need to prove it yourself unless you're a woman reporting a crime against yourself.

This was animal cruelty you let pass.

[BatmansBat]

You didn’t report it? I am sorry but you really, really should have reported this. All suspicions of sexual abuse need to be reported. You don’t need to prove it, it should be investigated based on the report.

Can you report it now? People like that don’t stop. It is a disgusting sexual abuse, maybe some kind of sheep fetish and those people do not stop.