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Ulrika Johnson goes naked for men's mental health
FlatteredFool · 20/06/2021 10:18
Ulrika Johnson wows fans by baring all for mental health campaign www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/ulrika-johnson-wows-fans-baring-20858740
Am is missing something here? How are men's mental health issues benefitted by anyone taking off their clothes? The article has attracted some nasty comments about her body and it seems like this is a set back for women somehow when women objectify themselves for the benefit of men. The charity is encouraging men to do the same
www.strongmen.org.uk/campaigns/bare-yourself/
and I get the logic there, although i still find it odd.
I know I'm not explaining this very well but I hope you get my point.
Needmoresleep · 20/06/2021 15:38
I am older that UJ, and in my first job, worked with her mother. Ulrika, aged 15, came into the office one day and I can honestly say she was the most beautiful female I have ever seen. She was stunning, something quickly noted by my male colleagues. (All in an appropriate way - she was, after all, 15.)
I think it is well documented that UJ had a complex childhood. I also think there is an issue for women (and men) who have unknowingly, or knowingly, relied on their looks as they age. The fact that she seems to be aging naturally rather than fight time through surgery, is good. That said I am uneasy about her seeming need to attract attention. I hope she is OK.
NiceGerbil · 20/06/2021 19:57
Women taking their clothes off for anything and everything is not unusual
Publicity for her
I'm sure she cares about the issue though she could have done it for anything
I think it's different doing it at her age. It's unusual. She knew she would get an awful lot of judgement and insults I'm sure
I'm really not liking the amount of judgement about her body on her tbh
KimikosNightmare · 20/06/2021 20:02
@Bluntness100
Bottom line, she got naked and the charity ended up all over the media. You’re even discussing it a d posting links to it on here.
So arguably it worked.
What was the charity? Seriously that passed me by.
KimikosNightmare · 20/06/2021 20:07
@NiceGerbil
Publicity for her
I'm sure she cares about the issue though she could have done it for anything
I think it's different doing it at her age. It's unusual. She knew she would get an awful lot of judgement and insults I'm sure
I'm really not liking the amount of judgement about her body on her tbh
Her body is not particularly healthy. It is not a good signal to send out that it is healthy or normal for someone of her ethnicity to have such a deep tan.
It's a stupid idea. It might have some justification if the charity related to a physical issue which she suffered from e.g a disfiguring skin disease but there is no justification for her appearing naked.
NiceGerbil · 20/06/2021 20:16
So only healthy women should be pictured? Women should only take their clothes off if their physical appearance meets a certain standard? Men and women should only be presented with images of undressed women if they match certain criteria?
Nope. Not for me either.
I'd rather that women taking their clothes off for any and every reason, and it being seen by many as an empowering thing for her to do, needs to stop.
I think judging a woman on her body, on fwr especially, is shitty. And reflects how ingrained it is for everyone to look at an image of a woman and assess it.
NiceGerbil · 20/06/2021 20:35
Why though?
Because everyone is steeped constantly in images of women's bodies, judgement on them, those weird magazines with omg she's got a wrinkly armpit etc.
In a way that is simply not the same.
Women are constantly judged on everything from their body to their clothes to their hair to their facial expression when they're just going about their lives.
It's toxic.
SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 20/06/2021 21:32
Oh goodness. I'm really 
that on the feminist board people are actually criticising Ulrika's body. That really isn't what feminism about, surely. 
To me, as others have said, Ulrika is very vulnerable. She had a mother who doesn't seem to have nurtured her much, and for whatever reason perhaps has placed too much store on the 'validation' she had for being a beautiful woman.
It really won't help, either the cause, or gaining any validation, as the arseholes have been out criticising her. I don't know if she has an agent/publicist, but this was really bad advice if it was on their recomendation.
NiceGerbil · 20/06/2021 21:43
Maybe it would be more productive to talk about
Why women taking their clothes off for anything and everything is a 'thing'
Why female appearance is critiqued and judged to the nth degree by both men and women when men's isn't (I mean we all know I assume but women primarily being sex objects is s real problem)
Why even on this thread there's an implication that if her body met a certain standard this would be not such s problem. Which is what some posts imply whether they realise it or not. I get an ageist vibe as well.
The automatic urge to notice and judge women is so deep it's automatic for pretty much everyone.
I also think that a thread about individual which has many comments about her body (and finding it lacking), on FWR is unexpected and as I've mentioned I don't like it. Looking at the dynamics around it all is important.
In the end she's a person with whatever thoughts and feelings who has been in the public eye for years and has been continually criticised by the press etc. Horrible jokes about her. Whatever her reasons, she's doing no different to loads of other women.
Grellbunt · 21/06/2021 09:23
@NiceGerbil
Nope. Not for me either.
I'd rather that women taking their clothes off for any and every reason, and it being seen by many as an empowering thing for her to do, needs to stop.
I think judging a woman on her body, on fwr especially, is shitty. And reflects how ingrained it is for everyone to look at an image of a woman and assess it.
Hear hear
StileAmtico · 21/06/2021 09:50
I'd rather that women taking their clothes off for any and every reason, and it being seen by many as an empowering thing for her to do, needs to stop.
This. When women reduce themselves to the sum of their body parts they set progress back for the rest of us to be more than just a body too. Carol Vordeman is an very clever woman but is all over the sodding Daily Mail of all places showing off her fillered face, enhanced breasts and bum encased in skin tight clothing like that is all she is about. And Liz Hurley seems to spend the majority of her life being photographed in bikinis. It's so dispiriting and depressing.
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