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Ulrika Johnson goes naked for men's mental health
FlatteredFool · 20/06/2021 10:18
Ulrika Johnson wows fans by baring all for mental health campaign www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/ulrika-johnson-wows-fans-baring-20858740
Am is missing something here? How are men's mental health issues benefitted by anyone taking off their clothes? The article has attracted some nasty comments about her body and it seems like this is a set back for women somehow when women objectify themselves for the benefit of men. The charity is encouraging men to do the same
www.strongmen.org.uk/campaigns/bare-yourself/
and I get the logic there, although i still find it odd.
I know I'm not explaining this very well but I hope you get my point.
Naunet · 20/06/2021 12:16
So much wrong with this I don’t know where to start, but I think the thing that has struck me the most, are the comments. So she goes naked to raise awareness of men’s mental health(?!), and men respond by slagging off her body and not giving a damn about the impact that can have on women’s mental health.
SecondCityShark · 20/06/2021 12:58
So much wrong with this I don’t know where to start, but I think the thing that has struck me the most, are the comments. So she goes naked to raise awareness of men’s mental health(?!), and men respond by slagging off her body and not giving a damn about the impact that can have on women’s mental health.
God you're so right. It's like self-flagellation in a way too.
KimikosNightmare · 20/06/2021 13:04
@QuentinBunbury
But also, do you know what, I think she looks fantastic and it's nice to see an older woman do this kind of shot. So often we are invisible
She does not look "fantastic" Her skin looks very damaged by over- exposure to sun or tanning beds.
MargaritaPie · 20/06/2021 13:24
"She does not look "fantastic" Her skin looks very damaged by over- exposure to sun or tanning beds."
I thought so too but didn't want to say unless someone else did. Definitely too much sunbeds her skin has that leatherly-look.
"If you want to benefit men's health then the first thing to do is work out how to get men to go see their GP."
Hear me out on this one, but wouldn't it help if those who laugh and say "haha he must have man-flu" everytime a man says he feels unwell, or "man up" every time a man says he feels depressed stopped doing this? There's a lot of pressure on men to ignore poor physical and mental health to appear "strong and manly".
ChinaMug · 20/06/2021 13:31
@MargaritaPie
Because it's an easy way to attract attention?
Except that everyone is talking about UJ being naked and no one is saying, "Gosh, yes, we need to do something about men's mental health!"
I think highlighting suicide stats and perhaps hearing testimonials from men who have experienced MH and the stigma around it might be more 'useful' than knowing what a 53 year old naked woman looks like pushing a wheelbarrow.
ChinaMug · 20/06/2021 13:33
@MargaritaPie
I thought so too but didn't want to say unless someone else did. Definitely too much sunbeds her skin has that leatherly-look.
"If you want to benefit men's health then the first thing to do is work out how to get men to go see their GP."
Hear me out on this one, but wouldn't it help if those who laugh and say "haha he must have man-flu" everytime a man says he feels unwell, or "man up" every time a man says he feels depressed stopped doing this? There's a lot of pressure on men to ignore poor physical and mental health to appear "strong and manly".
Yes it would help. And no better way to achieve that than by showing a naked woman of course
Novelusername · 20/06/2021 13:38
The point of this thread isn't to critique her body FFS, but it goes to show how the aim of the gesture is not being achieved.
Hear me out on this one, but wouldn't it help if those who laugh and say "haha he must have man-flu" everytime a man says he feels unwell, or "man up" every time a man says he feels depressed stopped doing this? There's a lot of pressure on men to ignore poor physical and mental health to appear "strong and manly".
The problem is though, as far as I have experienced, is that men will moan about a health problem but then not go to the doctor. I actually did my back in yesterday, and it made me remember how my ex would catastrophise about his ailments, seeking constant reassurance from me and putting a drain on my resources, but then he wouldn't do what he actually needed to do, which was to go to the Dr. If and when he did finally go, to be given some sort of medication, he'd then not bother to use it and it would fall on me to remind him. When I got ill with a painful long-term condition, I was simply told to 'get over it' by him, because it caused him inconvenience. I believe my experiences are quite typical. I'm so glad to be rid of him, like an emotional vampire draining all the life from me, and other boyfriends have been similar. So yes, men need to be encouraged to go to the Dr in health campaigns, but this shouldn't involve ever more emotional labour for women. It's a macho attitude for sure, the glorified idea that men can go on drinking, smoking and not exercising or eating healthily and taking care of their wellbeing forever and all will be well, but that is not women's job to tackle.
RitaTheGreeter · 20/06/2021 13:50
@Nonmaquillee
Sad that her only currency is her naked body.
I think if you'd read her book and understood what a screwed up childhood she'd had, her behaviour would be much more understandable. Her mother left when she was a child and she was exposed to pornography and overt sexual behaviour by her father. She has also suffered a horrific sexual assault. All in all, I think she's a very vulnerable woman.
PurpleHoodie · 20/06/2021 13:54
Get more famous men to get naked to raise awareness for all the men-focused charities and issues. NOT famous women.
They already do it with the Full Monty X-Factor Idol show thing*
Get male members of the public involved if they must.
*What is it called? It is actually very clever.
The message needs to be "Men encouraging other Men" though.
NOT "Women: be responsible for your man's health".
Moonwhite · 20/06/2021 15:13
How is one woman deciding to do something a "setback" for all of us? What a charming mindset. Especially as it was almost definitely the brain child of men.
Also lovely to see the vomit emojis at a 50 something woman's body in the womens rights subforum. Would you rather get to gawp at an 18 year old's tits instead? (And then of course judge her afterwards because she set us all back.)
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