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Can I risk being totally honest?

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naswm · 07/07/2008 17:42

Community Mental Health Team appt tomorrow.

if I tell them everything, I have to deal with the possible consequences of that

if I dont tell them the truth, they wont take me seriously

Waited 2.5 weeks for this 'urgent' appoiontment to come through, and now it is here I don't know how to play it

advice please?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh

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TheMadHouse · 07/07/2008 21:32

Also agree not beyond councelling - I think that you need to find the right treatment for you.

I was lucky in getting the head man for my phy treatment

DumbledoresGirl · 07/07/2008 21:34

LOL, well you know what to do tomorrow then naswm! Stare at the floor all the time and mumble!

TheMadHouse · 07/07/2008 21:34

They alway acknowledge that i need help, but also that the boys were not in any danger

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naswm · 07/07/2008 21:35

dont worry about sahying anything wrong!

I just feel beyond help

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pippibluestocking · 07/07/2008 21:40

I work in mental health (crisis services) and I would urge you to be honest since professionals won't be able to effectively help you if they don't know the exact nature and extent of your problems. If you work in the NHS, I guess you may already know that. Re: risks you outline i) Risk of being sectioned - only if you are an active risk to yourself (or others) and can't guarantee your safety (I don't know if your self harm is about a way of surviving rather than suicide but unless it is putting your life at risk, this would not result in you being sectioned) ii) Risk of your child being taken away - highly unlikely unless you (or someone you are allowing) are seriously neglecting or abusing your child emotionally, physically or sexually - if there are some difficulties but your child is not at serious risk, it is far more likely that support will be offered - taking a child away is always the last option and avoided wherever possible iii) risk of losing job / employer knowing - if it is felt that your mental health is putting the public at risk then they would have an obligation to take action, but this would be discussed with you. Self harm is not a reason alone to break confidentiality, it is about ensuring public safety and I would imagine that if that was the case, you would be taking sick leave any way - discuss your fears with the team tomorrow and see what their view is - you're probably find that you're reassured. I am aware of several people who self harm who remain employed in clinical roles where I work and their problems are known about by their employers. iv) Not being believed - I very much doubt that you would not be believed, risk is more likely to be about seeing someone who may not be particularly empathetic. If you find that this is the case, ask to see someone else the next time (write to CMHT manager if need be). Good luck anyway and hope it all goes well.

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naswm · 07/07/2008 21:54

thansk pippi good advice

SH is a way of surving, and not life threatening

DC are safe and well cared for

work is more of a prob - they see NHS manager and dont knwo what to do

Do I tell them about my attempts? and plans? in the past they havbe know about my feelings etc but not been able to help. All I woudl like is to be able to contact someone if/when I am about to do something. Someone to talk to.

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TheMadHouse · 07/07/2008 21:56

They asked me if I thought of how I would kill myself and also how far advanced my planning was and if I had had a test run

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naswm · 07/07/2008 21:57

and did you ytell them?

and do I?

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TheMadHouse · 07/07/2008 22:13

Yes I told them, I also told them that I always came back to the fact that although I wanted to die, that I could not leave my children, which was true for me.

I acknowledged that I had them, done some planning, but never trialled it.

Do you? Well only you can make that decision.

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naswm · 07/07/2008 22:13

scared now

and so alone

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naswm · 07/07/2008 22:16

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TheMadHouse · 07/07/2008 22:18

What are you scared of and with MN you are never alone

You are taking a step forward, it can be frightening, often the thinking is worse than the doing.

When I am scared, I think about the worst that can happen and plan for it

TheMadHouse · 07/07/2008 22:24

Need to go to bed, will try and catch up tomnorrow.

Please take care and post if you need help.

Good luck and hope that you get the help you need and want

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naswm · 08/07/2008 07:27

Thanks x

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WingsofaAngel · 08/07/2008 08:00

Good Luck for today.

We are all right behind you. (I only hope the room is big enough for us all)

You can tell them everything.
Positive vibes xx

zippitippitoes · 08/07/2008 08:32

wishing you well today

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naswm · 08/07/2008 13:46

I wish you ahd all been there

It didnt go well, and the doty social worker and I got off to a very bad start so that within 5 mins he had said 'so why are you here, you know there is nothing we can do for?'

I need to digest it all, I cant push it all down and forget it all

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Amphibimum · 08/07/2008 13:52

oh dear naswm !
find someone else to talk to. make someone listen.
what did they say they cant help with?

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naswm · 08/07/2008 13:54

grr you can tell I am stressed by the typos etc in that post

So there is nothing more to be done

Thanks NHS
Thanks life
Thanks for nothing

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TheMadHouse · 08/07/2008 13:54

You had a social worker there why?

I had two of the mental health team at my crisis meeting.

Also why can they not help you, surley they are not allowed to just ignore you and hope you go away?

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naswm · 08/07/2008 13:57

No one can help

I have tried so much and so many different things and different people

They have admitted there is nothing can do

Take some responsibility for myself was what he said - like I havent been doing that for the past x years.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Amphibimum · 08/07/2008 14:13

but that cant be right
i wish i knew more about you and the nature of your problem, if theres one thing ive learned in life its that there always is a way to sort things out, you just have to find out what it is and how to access it.
please dont give up. stay angry for a bit, better that despair ime

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naswm · 08/07/2008 14:17

It is crap isnt it?

But I had to give it one more try

the nature of my probs, umm, well the main thing is that I have personality disorders and there is nothing to be done for that, no help, no support, just bad luck and get on with it

Too hard not to give up., I have been through so much in teh past few years, and this is one knock too many. He tried the guilt thing on me this morning, you know, about how my children would feel etc, well that certainly helped.

I hate myself
Eveyrone else hates me
I am a waste of space

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zippitippitoes · 08/07/2008 14:20

well not everyone hates you

the nhs is patchy in what it offers and who offers

is there anything you have done or direction you can take that you feel has ever helped

does focussing in oin anything help

i think the worst thing to do is see too huge a mountain

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naswm · 08/07/2008 14:24

the mountain is having to live forever with this bloody 'thing' and all alone

I cannot do that - which is why I have been trying to get help

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