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Living with Bipolar

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TopsyTurvyDays · 24/06/2025 16:52

Named changed and starting a thread just to reach for some understanding I think.

In my 50s, diagnosed a couple of years ago with bipolar when had episode of hympomania. Got back in touch with consultant yesterday as could feel mood lifting (I get more mania than depression). I don’t get euphoria- just angst and misery. Consultant is trying to help me find something more constant I can take to help get enough sleep, as sleeping tablets are addictive and stop working.

I’m just tired and worried and constantly monitoring. Worried I’ll be too much for my friends one day. Worried that I’ve passed on troublesome genes to my kids. Not too worried about my DH as he seems to take it in his stride… looking back I was disguising mild mania with being drunk when we met back in our uni days - so when I fell over the edge, it was all behaviour he’d seen before. We had a worrying couple of days while they ruled out brain tumours etc.

The only people who were mean to me (shouted and screamed) when I slid down the slope into needing an ambulance were my family - siblings and parents. That’s hurt.

I thought I’d imploded my life but actually it’s all gone back to being the same 99%.

I worry for the future. I had an adverse reaction to diazepam and I couldn’t get them to believe me because they thought my behaviour was all the mania. My DH believed me and he got them to believe him.

I worry I won’t be able to drive in the future as we live rurally. But living where we live is part of the reason I held on so long as it’s so peaceful and I love it. Doesn’t work if can’t drive though (lockdown was a taster of what being stuck in house 24/7 was like and it was unbearable for me).

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HayuBingeWatcher · 11/07/2025 18:53

Talking about driving. My psychiatrist said he would prescribe my dose of 200mg. And we wouldn’t need to worry about continuing to work and drive/manage my own journeys. He said anything above this, combined with my other medication would need to be assessed further.

being selfish is a part of my own treatment plan and I had to teach myself to be grateful that I created my own free space and time and I no longer fear being sectioned or falling of the mental crisis wagon as I’m really self conscious of my triggers along with the right medication.

its doable, I just wanted to let you know. My bpd tells me I’m bragging but I know I’m not as I’m typing the words hoping they help someone know there is a more peaceful place when you get the right support, support yourself well and have access to the right medication.
I’m better, I’m a better version of me and I’m constantly working on keeping it that way.

and if you feel like there’s no one to talk to, come back and talk to the internet, I find it a great way to practice not caring what anyone else says or think and it’s also nice having a place to talk about it to.

wow that was a lot :) I’ve been a bit hyper all day today and it’s the end of the week so I’m happily letting it flow.

Superscientist · 11/07/2025 19:53

I get either a 1 or 3 year driving licence. If I have had an episode in the previous year it's a 1 year licence otherwise it's a 3 year licence. Some times the consultants need a prod to fill in the paperwork. I've only had one occasion where I have been asked by my team to stop driving. I was having a hypomanic episode that was heading towards mania. I still had insight and was at the time fit to drive but the way my mood was heading I could have become unfit to drive quite quickly so they asked me to stop as a precaution until my mood stabilised.

In terms of staying well my last consultant gave me his 5 things to do each day to keep the psych away

  1. Be mindful
  2. Be active
  3. Stay connected
  4. Learn
  5. Giving

I don't manage all every day but I do think it helps. When things are feeling like they are going awry I up my mindfulness. I need to do it in ways that keeps my hands busy so tend to do colouring or cross stitch or other crafty things.
I do try to run regularly even if it's just 1-3km. I walk my daughter to school and back which is almost a mile each way.
I've connected with some of the school mums and we now walk back from school together regularly. Once a month we do either a coffee morning or a longer walk.
I've been doing Duolingo every day to learn a bit of french and that gives me a bit of a boost.
I try to help those around and posting on here helps too to use my experiences to help others (hopefully!)

TopsyTurvyDays · 11/07/2025 20:13

Serencwtch · 11/07/2025 17:02

Don't give up hope with the driving. Most people with bipolar can drive if stable on medication.
You might have to renew your license every year at first but it's definitely not an automatic driving ban

Thank you. My license was stopped by error I think when I first informed the DVLA - I assumed based on what GP put on form. When I reapplied & had consultant psychiatrist fill in form instead, I got a 1 year license and now have a 3 year medical license. So I was only not allowed to drive for about 6 weeks I think. But it felt a lot longer as I didn’t know why it has been revoked and didn’t know whether I would get it reinstated. It makes me worried about having another full on episode in the future - but I know that’s me trying to control the uncontrollable, which is a huge part of my damage and is very unhelpful for my wellbeing.

It has been so helpful to have all these responses to me reaching out. Hearing from people who understand, have been so kind annd lovely in your replies and who’ve found a positive way through has really lifted me.

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TopsyTurvyDays · 11/07/2025 20:17

Superscientist · 11/07/2025 19:53

I get either a 1 or 3 year driving licence. If I have had an episode in the previous year it's a 1 year licence otherwise it's a 3 year licence. Some times the consultants need a prod to fill in the paperwork. I've only had one occasion where I have been asked by my team to stop driving. I was having a hypomanic episode that was heading towards mania. I still had insight and was at the time fit to drive but the way my mood was heading I could have become unfit to drive quite quickly so they asked me to stop as a precaution until my mood stabilised.

In terms of staying well my last consultant gave me his 5 things to do each day to keep the psych away

  1. Be mindful
  2. Be active
  3. Stay connected
  4. Learn
  5. Giving

I don't manage all every day but I do think it helps. When things are feeling like they are going awry I up my mindfulness. I need to do it in ways that keeps my hands busy so tend to do colouring or cross stitch or other crafty things.
I do try to run regularly even if it's just 1-3km. I walk my daughter to school and back which is almost a mile each way.
I've connected with some of the school mums and we now walk back from school together regularly. Once a month we do either a coffee morning or a longer walk.
I've been doing Duolingo every day to learn a bit of french and that gives me a bit of a boost.
I try to help those around and posting on here helps too to use my experiences to help others (hopefully!)

Thank you - that’s all really useful, I like those 5 things to do every day. I think I’ve shrunk my life a little too small.

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TopsyTurvyDays · 11/07/2025 20:19

HayuBingeWatcher · 11/07/2025 18:53

Talking about driving. My psychiatrist said he would prescribe my dose of 200mg. And we wouldn’t need to worry about continuing to work and drive/manage my own journeys. He said anything above this, combined with my other medication would need to be assessed further.

being selfish is a part of my own treatment plan and I had to teach myself to be grateful that I created my own free space and time and I no longer fear being sectioned or falling of the mental crisis wagon as I’m really self conscious of my triggers along with the right medication.

its doable, I just wanted to let you know. My bpd tells me I’m bragging but I know I’m not as I’m typing the words hoping they help someone know there is a more peaceful place when you get the right support, support yourself well and have access to the right medication.
I’m better, I’m a better version of me and I’m constantly working on keeping it that way.

and if you feel like there’s no one to talk to, come back and talk to the internet, I find it a great way to practice not caring what anyone else says or think and it’s also nice having a place to talk about it to.

wow that was a lot :) I’ve been a bit hyper all day today and it’s the end of the week so I’m happily letting it flow.

Thank you for your message. I really appreciate it. I’m so glad I reached out.

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Britneyfan · 11/07/2025 21:11

Hi OP, I also have bipolar 1, this is a great thread, let’s try and keep it going! It’s so nice to hear from and interact other people living with bipolar disorder specifically, particularly people who are “higher functioning” with it I guess I would say, and not eg. in and out of prison/on drugs/generally leading super chaotic lives as many people with this illness unfortunately do and which tends to be the stereotype. I think someone else said there are more of us out there lurking in the shadows just getting on with life who you don’t necessarily know about as due to the stigma people often keep their diagnosis very quiet. I find this forum a relatively quiet corner of mumsnet generally, and because not all mental health problems are the same or cause the same issues, just like not all physical issues do, I sometimes find it hard to relate to others on here with different issues.

I am in the slightly unusual/stressful situation of being a doctor (GP) as well as having bipolar 1. Which adds more layers of difficulty in terms of who I tell etc. and also in dealing with the stress and high responsibility and long hours of this sort of job. There is no doubt the diagnosis still carries a certain level of social stigma. I work part time these days, I genuinely think the stress of trying to do the job full time would cause a serious relapse. It’s so great you’re able to stop work - I am super jealous! It’s one less thing to worry about juggling if you’re financially stable so well done for getting yourself in that position. It’s also great that you have a supportive DH who wants to hug you better (even if that alone is unlikely to work 🤣) - again I am super jealous as a divorced single mother without a new partner.

It sounds to me like you’re still coming to terms with your diagnosis. Which is fair enough, it’s a “big” diagnosis made relatively recently (in contrast I was diagnosed 18 years ago right after the birth of my son when I had what was my one and only manic/psychotic episode as I tend more to depression, and ended up under section - I was initially admitted informally “voluntarily” -had no clue what was happening around me by that stage - and tried to escape, nearly made it too 🤣).

I was on lithium for a long time then moved to lamotrigine as my mood stabiliser (I’m also on an antidepressant), as I felt the lithium was making me feel cognitively “slow” which I felt was making it harder to do my job. The lamotrigine was a lot better for me. I also wanted to be on something that I could get pregnant again if I wanted another baby, though this never happened due to the divorce basically. When I was initially admitted they put me on olanzapine but it didn’t bring me down from the mania at all and I went from a size 12. To a size 20 within 3 weeks (and have struggled to lose the weight ever since). I would never let them give me olanzapine again. I also can’t have lithium now due to being diagnosed with a sudden cardiac death syndrome as well which lithium can trigger, after my younger brother suddenly collapsed and died out of the blue.Anyway for you, the quetiapine sounds like a good suggestion, sleep is crucial, the first sign of mania for me was when I stopped sleeping.

In terms of worry about the future I totally get it and have had many of the same thoughts as you about it, I think they are normal and understandable concerns. As well as your worries I have an additional couple of worries about the future (sorry!). That when I am an old woman if I don’t have a lot of family and friends to speak up for me, people won’t notice or care when I’m getting more unwell and busy GPs won’t realise or if they do won’t bend over backwards to get me into a psych ward etc if needed and I will end up neglected and going quietly mad by myself (I still recall visiting an elderly patient with bipolar disorder as a medical student with a GP when shadowing and it was basically this situation). I also worry if I get dementia that I will be “stuck” in the traumatic postnatal era that I experienced in my brain…

In terms of where you live long term, like me, it sounds like you enjoy the peace and quiet of living rurally and I do think that benefits my mental health, so I wouldn’t move right away closer to town, just see how things go over the next few years while they tweak your meds and try to work out what works best for you and see how stable or otherwise you are. It sounds unlikely you’d not be legally allowed to drive for long periods of time given that you haven’t had significant episodes in the past. For me I eventually decided that if and when that becomes an issue I can always move then to somewhere that’s more accessible as a non-driver. Also Uber now exists in many areas! In fact I actually don’t drive myself (never learned then got banned for a year after my manic psychotic episode anyway which put me off trying to learn) and I manage though I’d say my area is semi-rural rather than deep rural.

Regarding who to tell and potentially passing on your genes, I am personally fairly open about my diagnosis except when it comes to work. I’d actually love to be more open at work as I think that’s psychologically healthier and I sort of live in fear of the GMC as I feel if I put a foot wrong and end up under them with a history of bipolar disorder I would definitely get struck off. Perhaps I’m being unfair to the GMC but they are not know for being fair to doctors! Especially these days. It causes me unnecessary stress at work trying to hide it. And I feel like I have to lie if I need a day off due to depression about what’s wrong with me which I hate. Also feel I have to save up all my sick days for being mentally ill, so have to struggle in with any physical illness unless I am literally in hospital. Anyway. I feel we don’t yet live in a world where patients would generally be accepting of having a doctor with bipolar 1, nor do we live in a world where I imagine anyone would hire me as a GP knowing about my diagnosis sadly. So only my appraiser and occupational health are aware generally. I have occasionally told a colleague or two if I really trust them not to blab, as it makes me feel safer if someone I work with is quietly looking out for signs of deterioration in my mental state, to help protect patients if I started to get unwell. Luckily I have always had pretty good insight when I am becoming unwell, including my one and only manic episode, so am able to step back when I need to. I have sometimes reduced my hours at work for a while if I recognise I am going downhill etc. As a single parent with a small child nobody queried this but I worry about how I will explain it now he is hopefully off to uni elsewhere in the autumn!

My friends and family all know about my diagnosis and understand (they also didn’t deal with my deterioration into mania well but I’ve forgiven them as nobody really understood exactly what was happening at the time, and it was all out of concern for me and my son), and my now 18 year old son also knows and has grown up with me being open about it with him. I find it helpful to have my family and friends know so they can also keep an eye out for me going downhill and let me know their worries/insist on my seeing a doctor etc, and yes as a pp said sometimes help remind me about medication etc when I am getting into a new routine.

I think if your kids are old enough to drive I would be honest with them about your diagnosis TBH. It might cause some worry/shock but I think that will be the case whatever age you tell them. Certainly I would worry a lot more about my son going off to uni elsewhere without understanding that he has a genetic predisposition to both unipolar depression and bipolar disorder, and taking care of his sleep needs and taking action at an early stage if he feels his mental health slipping. I have a second degree relative in the generation above me who had bipolar disorder and hung herself in her early 20s. So yes I do worry slightly about having passed my bipolar genes on to my son (especially as when I am depressed, which I am much of the time to some degree or other unfortunately, I am very pessimistic in my thinking), however I feel like I have it more in perspective many years down the line and don’t think about it loads. IF it happens (and it may well not), then who else better to support him than me as I have lots of lived experience. And I feel like I have a lot of good qualities in my genes too, some of which I think actually tend to go along with a bipolar diagnosis such as high intelligence and creativity. That makes me feel a bit better about it anyway, essentially he is my son and that may mean he carries some of my weaknesses but also my strengths.

Sorry this post is ridiculously long lol but you raised a lot of issues and as I am further down the line from diagnosis I wanted to explain how I’ve thought about them over the years.

ByLimeAnt · 12/07/2025 01:49

@Britneyfan it was so good to read your post.

I'm an HCP and I
worry that my registering body will somehow find out at revalidation and suspend or strike me off. Like the GMC, they are not known for their support or any empathy.

I never disclose my condition in a professional context. I did that once and never again, it bit me so hard.

I've been working part time for the last month due to a physical health consortium and have noticed that it had made a huge difference- I've never worked part time in my life and truly is a game change. Back to FT next week and dreading it!

Superscientist · 12/07/2025 09:36

When I was in academia I didn't find much support from supervisors. One, who was also the disability officer, spent 2 years trying to get me thrown off the course. I was diagnosed during my PhD and my mood was quite unstable at the time. The pressure he put me under didn't help, I was always fearful of being judged for minor symptoms and that just caused things to escalate quicker. The hours and general stress didn't help either. Some months I worked 26 out of 28 days and routinely racked up 70+h a week!

I went straight into employment after that in a relatively new company and I felt comfortable to be more open there. Being able to say I'm having a bad week so just need this tiny adjustment to get through made a huge difference. Not expending energy I didn't always have on a mask to appear normal helped too!

I had a really bad episode after having my daughter in 2020. I went from mat leave to sick leave as I was in a mother and baby unit when my mat leave finished. I did a phased return and found I couldn't work more than 2days in a row so I settled on 4 days a week taking off Wednesdays. It really helped my ability to manage my mental health.

I was made redundant in February and found out I was pregnant the same day so I've been out of work since then. I thought it would be awful for my mental health but I've coped surprisingly well. In the last month or so low level depression has started to creep in but I'm now under the perinatal mental health team who are keeping a close eye on me.

I hope you manage to switch back to ft ok @ByLimeAnt is making the switch to pt more long term an option?

mindyourhead78 · 12/07/2025 09:45

Haven't read the full thread but I take the antipsychotic risperidone (sp) which helps me to sleep

Britneyfan · 12/07/2025 17:37

@ByLimeAnt definitely try and change to part time work if you have the option, it definitely helps take some pressure out of the working week.

I know, our professional bodies definitely add to the stress (are you a nurse? I know their professional body is also not known for its kindness lol), and managing being a HCP and responsible for patient care while also balancing your own health and other needs is really difficult with this illness. However they definitely can’t suspend you or strike you off just for having bipolar disorder, it’s not a crime and that would be clear discrimination. So try not to overworry about that (it’s so easy to catastrophise when we are feeling low). It’s just that in my opinion there is a worry that if something else happened for which one was reported and they also had the background of bipolar disorder, there would be a lot of pre-judgement about it, rather than focussing on the actual issue one was reported for. And I worry that it would all be easily blamed on being mentally unstable and therefore unfit to work and look after patients.

I also know there are more of us around than people might think, I have a friend from medical school who is also bipolar and also a GP. And she has another doctor friend with bipolar disorder. We are out there!

It’s really sad that disclosing your condition didn’t go well. Sounds like @Superscientist has had both negatives in the past and positives at her current job from disclosing. It’s exactly what you say @Superscientist that makes me feel sad that I don’t feel able to disclose my diagnosis. I think it would really help me not to have to expend so much energy on hiding my diagnosis and masking and pretending to be “normal” as you say, and also to be able to ask for adjustments which might be fairly minor eg for me I’d love to be able to say that I’m really struggling with depression at the moment and would appreciate having a couple of my clinic slots blocked off today so I can cope (not every day but once in a blue moon when having a bad day). Or an annual leave request being considered at short notice to allow me to manage a particularly bad patch etc. That sort of thing might well then avoid me ending up taking 3 weeks of sick leave down the line due to depression secondary to work stress.

@Superscientist I ended up in an MBU too after having my son. It’s good you’re under the perinatal team and congrats on your pregnancy!

Britneyfan · 12/07/2025 18:03

@TopsyTurvyDays how are you doing today? I meant to say that I have started to struggle enormously with sleep since perimenopause hit a few years back. Magnesium has definitely made a huge difference to me (I was extremely sceptical that it would but tried it and definitely noticed an improvement!) I also sometimes take the daytime type Kalms which is just valerian, at night as I find it helps me feel calmer but also sleepy. I have also sometimes taken melatonin for it, which definitely helps too. And I have some regular pregabalin at the moment for anxiety which I take last thing at night as I think it also helps me sleep. The sedating antihistamines definitely work in terms of getting me to sleep but they leave me feeling groggy and hungover in the morning even with a super low dose, and also give me nightmares! I think you’re absolutely right to prioritise your sleep and not selfish at all, it’s in all your family’s best interests for you to be as well as possible.

TopsyTurvyDays · 12/07/2025 23:37

Britneyfan · 12/07/2025 18:03

@TopsyTurvyDays how are you doing today? I meant to say that I have started to struggle enormously with sleep since perimenopause hit a few years back. Magnesium has definitely made a huge difference to me (I was extremely sceptical that it would but tried it and definitely noticed an improvement!) I also sometimes take the daytime type Kalms which is just valerian, at night as I find it helps me feel calmer but also sleepy. I have also sometimes taken melatonin for it, which definitely helps too. And I have some regular pregabalin at the moment for anxiety which I take last thing at night as I think it also helps me sleep. The sedating antihistamines definitely work in terms of getting me to sleep but they leave me feeling groggy and hungover in the morning even with a super low dose, and also give me nightmares! I think you’re absolutely right to prioritise your sleep and not selfish at all, it’s in all your family’s best interests for you to be as well as possible.

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The hot weather has finally reached us today 🥵.

My sleep is loads better. The antihistamines worked really well. I took them for a full fortnight and that’s done an excellent reset of my sleep. I was nervous of stopping but it’s been fine. So, much better results than the sleeping tablets and more sustainable option too. I feel I have a plan if that stops being enough when sleep disturbance happens - but I’m also trying to be more comfortable with the unknown and not try to plan to the nth degree for an unknown future. My mood is immediately improved with proper sleep.

There was a lot to digest in your post so I read it through a few times to make sure I grasped it all.

I love the idea of keeping the chat going. I have found discussing with everyone here really healing and meaningful. The hidden many - I have found my place again somehow. I feel myself again, which I just hadn’t since diagnosis.

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Britneyfan · 14/07/2025 21:11

Oh that’s great news @TopsyTurvyDays ! I’m so glad you’re feeling a bit more like yourself. And that you feel less alone with this. A good night’s sleep definitely makes all the difference to mood I think!

Let’s definitely try to keep the thread going, but if it does die a death, you or anyone else on this thread are welcome to send a private message to me anytime. We should support each other! It’s definitely not easy having bipolar disorder!

I’ve had a rubbish weekend, not sure if it’s the heat or the fact that I have just increased my sertraline dose but have been feeling low in mood all weekend (usually I don’t notice any immediate change in my mood for a few weeks after changing dose and increasing the dose usually helps!). Have spent most of the time in bed. However I am feeling slightly better this evening which is good. Maybe I was just premenstrual or something. I have a mirena coil these days so have no idea where I am in my menstrual cycle which is annoying when I get these dips as I would worry a lot less about them if I knew for sure I was premenstrual as I always get a dip in my mood then.

Britneyfan · 14/07/2025 21:11

Oh that’s great news @TopsyTurvyDays ! I’m so glad you’re feeling a bit more like yourself. And that you feel less alone with this. A good night’s sleep definitely makes all the difference to mood I think!

Let’s definitely try to keep the thread going, but if it does die a death, you or anyone else on this thread are welcome to send a private message to me anytime. We should support each other! It’s definitely not easy having bipolar disorder!

I’ve had a rubbish weekend, not sure if it’s the heat or the fact that I have just increased my sertraline dose but have been feeling low in mood all weekend (usually I don’t notice any immediate change in my mood for a few weeks after changing dose and increasing the dose usually helps!). Have spent most of the time in bed. However I am feeling slightly better this evening which is good. Maybe I was just premenstrual or something. I have a mirena coil these days so have no idea where I am in my menstrual cycle which is annoying when I get these dips as I would worry a lot less about them if I knew for sure I was premenstrual as I always get a dip in my mood then.

Britneyfan · 14/07/2025 21:13

@zibazee @ByLimeAnt @CleverQuacks @HayuBingeWatcher @hoodiemassive @mindyourhead78 @Sajacas @Serencwtch @Superscientist how are all of you getting on? Please contribute to this support thread to keep it going and let us know how you are if you’d like to!

TopsyTurvyDays · 15/07/2025 10:53

Britneyfan · 14/07/2025 21:11

Oh that’s great news @TopsyTurvyDays ! I’m so glad you’re feeling a bit more like yourself. And that you feel less alone with this. A good night’s sleep definitely makes all the difference to mood I think!

Let’s definitely try to keep the thread going, but if it does die a death, you or anyone else on this thread are welcome to send a private message to me anytime. We should support each other! It’s definitely not easy having bipolar disorder!

I’ve had a rubbish weekend, not sure if it’s the heat or the fact that I have just increased my sertraline dose but have been feeling low in mood all weekend (usually I don’t notice any immediate change in my mood for a few weeks after changing dose and increasing the dose usually helps!). Have spent most of the time in bed. However I am feeling slightly better this evening which is good. Maybe I was just premenstrual or something. I have a mirena coil these days so have no idea where I am in my menstrual cycle which is annoying when I get these dips as I would worry a lot less about them if I knew for sure I was premenstrual as I always get a dip in my mood then.

Could you do it the other way - Would tracking the low moods show a cycle that follows a menstrual cycle type pattern?

I’m sorry your weekend was spent feeling rubbish. Well done on resting. Hope it’s been ok being at work this week. It’s a stressful job even on the straightforward days.

Im on a topsy turvy day so I’m playing with our rescue kittens and leaving everything else till later.

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Superscientist · 15/07/2025 12:28

@Britneyfan I would say this personally was the worst reaction I've had from someone. The most difficult bit was having nowhere to go with it as the person to complain about him to was him! I had a second supervisor and an independent academic I could also speak to who and they were able to temper him somewhat. On the plus side part of my anonymous complaints about him to the equality officer did contribute him to be dropped as disability officer, he was heading towards retirement too so hopefully no-one else has to suffer at his hands. He had form for not being the most supportive of hidden disabilities. He was also former head of department so it was hard knowing who to trust with grumblings about him.
The only other bad experience I had was at the same uni when I started with a depression diagnosis that had impacted my a level grades. My personal tutor said he wasn't very good with "girl issues" and suggested a different member of staff for me to talk too. The other person was great and whilst I strongly disagree with the comment on "girl issues" and a pastoral person being unable to deal with pastoral issues. I did appreciate him acknowledging he wasn't going to be best and sign posting me to someone that could help rather than him doing a bad job!

Superscientist · 15/07/2025 12:35

Thanks @Britneyfan it took a long time to feel able to risk pregnancy again. They are going to try to be more responsive and hopefully be able to manage my mental health in the community this time. I managed until 10 months last time but we were running out of time to get me stable before my maternity leave finished and I would be passed on to the cmht who were known to be hopeless.
I saw the psychiatrist again yesterday. I remember in the meantime a difficult side effect I had on lithium last time. Waking up about an hour after going to sleep feeling like I was drowning and couldn't breathe. I had mentioned to my consultant I was seeing at the time and he was adamant it was a complete coincidence that it only started when I started on lithium and it was just a sleep issue. The consultant yesterday said it sounds like I was slightly toxic from the lithium dose so would be cautious next time about using such high doses.

My mood is a bit low at the moment. Feeling flat and unmotivated. I came back from school drop off this morning and got back into bed for half an hour or so. I feel a bit more refreshed for doing so but struggling with doing anything remotely useful

ByLimeAnt · 18/07/2025 21:41

Hi everyone. Thanks for your kind words @Britneyfan . You are right, it's that anxiety that making a totally standard mistake will be laid at the feet of having bi-polar. So many things like that.

I've got bi-polar so:

People feel they have the right to check I am taking my medication ( yes Barbara, and how is that Fybogel working out for you?).

Say "No. How are you REALLY doing?" head tilted. If I say I am fine it's because a, I'm fine b, I'm not fine but I don't consider you a good enough friend to talk to c, Well I THOUGHT I was fine but now I'm questioning myself.

Saw a smug little post on LinkedIn about someone saying they always ask people that. I nearly commented that she was massively overstepping boundaries but it has my RL name and picture so probably best not.

I can't get up in the night of I can't sleep. This one, well, slightly fair enough. When I'm tipping into mania I don't sleep but do massive amounts of housework, cooking and online shopping so I understand why family get a bit twitchy.

But worst of all? You are never allowed to have a bad day. Manager an arse? Tough. Keep smiling! Because otherwise people will be thinking your crashing again, when your not, you're simply working with someone who can't manage themselves out of a paper bag.

ForestSloth · 26/07/2025 04:01

Sorry to arrive late to the thread - And apologies for this long post...I'm glad to have found fellow sufferers of bipolar disorder. Thank you for starting this thread @TopsyTurvyDays
I was diagnosed with bipolar 1 (actually "severe rapid-cycling manic depressive psychosis") back in1995 a few months after I'd had a traumatic emergency C-section delivery of my 3rd child.

No drugs helped. I was like a zombie on lithium then took a severe reaction to lithium (all the side-effects of an overdose) and had to come off it cold turkey. Carbamazapine was no help with the rapid cycles. I saw an endrocologist to see if there was a link between my menstrual cycle and the rapid cycles but no link was found. I was told I was treatment-resistent although I complied with taking medication. Local doctor in Herts referred me to the Maudesley in London who put me on semi sodium valproate and gave me parting words of hope and encouragement as we moved with my husband's job to Glasgow.

Semi sodium valproate was not the wonder cure I'd been promised and the debilitating cycles continued as we moved from new place to new place as my husband was in the armed forces. The lack of stability was a huge and damaging contributing factor to my moods. My beloved children went to boarding school ( a mixed blessing as I could scarcely look after them and they found the mood swings frightening but we missed each other badly and staggered on in this nightmare for years.)

Another posting, another psychiatrist, who put me on lamotrigine. This may help some people but it was the drug from hell as far as it affected me. Within days of starting this drug I had a severe reaction to it, hearing voices, people communicating to me through the television, thinking I was an angel - full-blown psychosis and hallucinations that lasted 3 days. I was sectioned in a hospital in the Midlands where we'd only just arrived and knew no-one. I was sectioned on and off for 9 months and my driving licence taken off me.
. It dulled my cognitive functions to the extent that I could no longer spell 5 letter words or string 2 sentences together or follow a recipe etc

Eventually back in Scotland a new young psychiatrist insisted that lamotrigine was a good drug and it was just a sign of age that my cognitive abilities were declining. I'm now in my 60s

Now at last a kind psychiatrist put me on aripiprazole - after a few more admissions to hospital,sectioned, hooray no side effects - and have been low in mood and lethargic for several years but functioning and stable and able to enjoy pottering and leading as stressfree life as possible.

But

The last 2 days I've suddenly and for no obvious reason soared out of mild depression and am racing around with long 'to-do' lists, clearing rubbish and cleaning and buying stuff and bossing my husband around. I know I need to sleep. It's essential to catch myself from spiralling up into mania. I took 1 X lorazepam an hour ago. Praying for sleep now.

People do know I have bipolar disorder (I still prefer the term manic depression!). I do some voluntary work and the boss knows (and has witnessed me in full mania).

I send my love to you all. It's a challenge. Kay Redfield Jamison has written a wonderful book 'An Unquiet Mind' about her bipolar journey as a doctor @britneyfan

TopsyTurvyDays · 26/07/2025 12:51

ForestSloth · 26/07/2025 04:01

Sorry to arrive late to the thread - And apologies for this long post...I'm glad to have found fellow sufferers of bipolar disorder. Thank you for starting this thread @TopsyTurvyDays
I was diagnosed with bipolar 1 (actually "severe rapid-cycling manic depressive psychosis") back in1995 a few months after I'd had a traumatic emergency C-section delivery of my 3rd child.

No drugs helped. I was like a zombie on lithium then took a severe reaction to lithium (all the side-effects of an overdose) and had to come off it cold turkey. Carbamazapine was no help with the rapid cycles. I saw an endrocologist to see if there was a link between my menstrual cycle and the rapid cycles but no link was found. I was told I was treatment-resistent although I complied with taking medication. Local doctor in Herts referred me to the Maudesley in London who put me on semi sodium valproate and gave me parting words of hope and encouragement as we moved with my husband's job to Glasgow.

Semi sodium valproate was not the wonder cure I'd been promised and the debilitating cycles continued as we moved from new place to new place as my husband was in the armed forces. The lack of stability was a huge and damaging contributing factor to my moods. My beloved children went to boarding school ( a mixed blessing as I could scarcely look after them and they found the mood swings frightening but we missed each other badly and staggered on in this nightmare for years.)

Another posting, another psychiatrist, who put me on lamotrigine. This may help some people but it was the drug from hell as far as it affected me. Within days of starting this drug I had a severe reaction to it, hearing voices, people communicating to me through the television, thinking I was an angel - full-blown psychosis and hallucinations that lasted 3 days. I was sectioned in a hospital in the Midlands where we'd only just arrived and knew no-one. I was sectioned on and off for 9 months and my driving licence taken off me.
. It dulled my cognitive functions to the extent that I could no longer spell 5 letter words or string 2 sentences together or follow a recipe etc

Eventually back in Scotland a new young psychiatrist insisted that lamotrigine was a good drug and it was just a sign of age that my cognitive abilities were declining. I'm now in my 60s

Now at last a kind psychiatrist put me on aripiprazole - after a few more admissions to hospital,sectioned, hooray no side effects - and have been low in mood and lethargic for several years but functioning and stable and able to enjoy pottering and leading as stressfree life as possible.

But

The last 2 days I've suddenly and for no obvious reason soared out of mild depression and am racing around with long 'to-do' lists, clearing rubbish and cleaning and buying stuff and bossing my husband around. I know I need to sleep. It's essential to catch myself from spiralling up into mania. I took 1 X lorazepam an hour ago. Praying for sleep now.

People do know I have bipolar disorder (I still prefer the term manic depression!). I do some voluntary work and the boss knows (and has witnessed me in full mania).

I send my love to you all. It's a challenge. Kay Redfield Jamison has written a wonderful book 'An Unquiet Mind' about her bipolar journey as a doctor @britneyfan

Hi. What a time you've had. I hope you’ve managed to get some sleep since you posted. Being treatment resistant is a cruelty on top on an already cruel illness. I’m so sorry to hear what a tough time you’ve had.

My Mum’s schizophrenia is classed as treatment resistant but she was put on chlorazapine 20 years ago and while ifs not perfect at keeping the delusions at bay and it does make her so drowsy it’s hard to get up in the morning, it has given my Mum a great quality of life.

I do find it scary that the quality of care you get depends on the person in the role. It’s so individual how we all react to these drugs so it takes a real skill to help get treatment the best it can be.

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ForestSloth · 26/07/2025 14:33

Thank you @TopsyTurvyDays for your kind words. It's good to be heard. Yes it's so hard isn't it? I'm interested that your mother also suffers with serious mental illness. My mother was diagnosed with rapid-cycling manic depression in her 60s after having had a near-fatal heart attack. No previous hint of depression in her life - if anything she'd always been upbeat and (possibly) hypomanic. She refused medication, saying she didn't want to be seen as a 'lunatic'. (This was in the late 1970s)

I worry enormously about the genetic predisposition in our family. My younger son (in his 30s) has been sectioned in the past and he also is labelled as bipolar and is on aripiprazole, which keeps him well stable and able to work. My daughter who is a sensitive soul has said to me from an early age that she will never have children for fear of passing on the genes.

I had very little sleep last night (posting on Mumsnet at 4am!) I think the lorazepam had a delayed effect as I fell asleep on the sofa this morning for a few hours and feel more rested now. I have an emergency appointment on Monday with yet another new psychiatrist; the previous one (best pdoc I've ever had) has moved to a new area.

This is such a helpful thread. Thanks again for starting it and I hope everyone on here is being supported in real life too.

TopsyTurvyDays · 26/07/2025 18:23

ForestSloth · 26/07/2025 14:33

Thank you @TopsyTurvyDays for your kind words. It's good to be heard. Yes it's so hard isn't it? I'm interested that your mother also suffers with serious mental illness. My mother was diagnosed with rapid-cycling manic depression in her 60s after having had a near-fatal heart attack. No previous hint of depression in her life - if anything she'd always been upbeat and (possibly) hypomanic. She refused medication, saying she didn't want to be seen as a 'lunatic'. (This was in the late 1970s)

I worry enormously about the genetic predisposition in our family. My younger son (in his 30s) has been sectioned in the past and he also is labelled as bipolar and is on aripiprazole, which keeps him well stable and able to work. My daughter who is a sensitive soul has said to me from an early age that she will never have children for fear of passing on the genes.

I had very little sleep last night (posting on Mumsnet at 4am!) I think the lorazepam had a delayed effect as I fell asleep on the sofa this morning for a few hours and feel more rested now. I have an emergency appointment on Monday with yet another new psychiatrist; the previous one (best pdoc I've ever had) has moved to a new area.

This is such a helpful thread. Thanks again for starting it and I hope everyone on here is being supported in real life too.

My Mum and I are not the only ones in our family so for us I guess it’s a near certainty that there is a genetic component. I’m not sure I would have had children if I’d known but having children has been one of the most amazing times of my life and there is no going back in time anyhow.

All the best with the new psychiatrist on Monday. I hope you can come up with a good plan to get you back on an even keel. Wishing you lots of sleep tonight as well.

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ByLimeAnt · 31/07/2025 20:08

How did the new psychiatrist go?

ForestSloth · 01/08/2025 07:27

Hello ByLimeAnt thanks for asking about the new psychiatrist. The appointment could not have gone any better: new psychiatrist is a woman (all my previous ones were male). She immediately made me feel comfortable enough to open up honestly about my mood swings and how badly they affect me. She just asked all the right questions. She listened compassionately and gave me paper hankies...
I now have Lorazepam for a couple of weeks, and back on Aripiprazole. She will see me again in 3 weeks, tho said I could phone her secretary if necessary for an earlier appointment. Fortunately the Lorazepam has been working and I am sleeping 5 or 6 hours a night. Not my preferred 8 hours, but enough to catch the mania before it lands me sectioned in hospital :)
I'm still whizzing around but doing useful things like cleaning windows and gardening and life admin that I'd been putting off for years.

TLDR: She was even better than I had hoped for! So grateful

Hope you are doing all right?