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To think I have autism or ADHD? I can’t cope anymore and want to die

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ThisTipsyQuoter · 14/07/2024 23:20

I’m writing this in tears, I want to just end it all. I am 21 and have just been told today, 6 weeks into a cafe waitressing job that I’m unlikely to survive my probation period with them. Got quite upset and sought comfort from my partner when I got home who instead got frustrated and said he doesn’t see how we’ll manage our plans for the future (kids, saving a house deposit) if I can’t even hold down a basic minimum wage job, and he has a fair point.

I have always been like this, I feel like there is something wrong with me. I try to run away from my problems but I’ve realised the problem is with me. As a child, I had an autism assessment (which found me to be neurotypical) by my pre-school as I had selective mutism. I was perfectly fine, chatty and happy at home with my parents - I came from a stable family. But I’d go into pre-school and was 100% mute. I can’t remember why I was like this or what my thought process was, and that’s highly frustrating. This continued until the age of 7 where I began to whisper to other children, and by the end of Year 6 I was fully verbal and had a lovely group of friends. I was always very much into imaginative play up until the age of 10/11, which I feel I should have grown out of by then.

Starting high school was traumatic for me, I lasted a month. I couldn’t cope. I kept losing my timetable, planner, P.E kit. I couldn’t make sense of the layout of the building or homework. I would become incredibly overwhelmed at lunch time with kids bustling through the corridors. I had some sort of nervous breakdown that terrified my poor mum so much that she withdrew me from school to home educate me as she genuinely thought I was going to kill myself if forced to go, and she was probably right.

Home education was okay for me, my mum found a lovely tutor who did group sessions of 5 or 6 kids who also couldn’t cope with school and we had lessons at the local community centre. I did my GCSE’s with her and smashed them, I was able to be very academic in the right environment. I did an access course at college (this was the height of Covid so there was no social aspect, it was all online) and smashed it, and I have just finished my first year of a bachelor’s degree in an allied health profession. I have smashed all of my assignments, but I haven’t made a single friend or even had a proper conversation with any of my peers. I try but I stumble over my words and I find it genuinely exhausting.

I’m also losing my motivation for my degree. I remember I had a phase of really wanting to work in the NHS/Healthcare, and it became somewhat of an obsession. I watched so many dramas or documentaries about working in one specific profession and did so much research and I thought “this must be my niche!”. But then a few weeks into uni I just didn’t give a shit anymore and I’ve struggled to get back that initial feeling of euphoria. I passed placements in first year by the skin of my teeth, they said they felt I wasn’t engaging and didn’t show enough interest in the subject. I lied to my partner and said I’d had brilliant feedback from placements, because I’m so mortified by the reality. He was so proud of me and I don’t deserve it. I can’t see how I’ll pass next placement, so uni is probably fucked. I’ve had other fleeting obsessions before, in my teen years it was a character from a TV show. I also desperately want a baby, but I think that's a hormonal thing rather than an autism/ADHD thing and I am managing to keep it under control.

Now, onto jobs. My first job was waitressing but this was the height of Covid when it was dead, I was barely there and then quit a few months in because the commute home at night was a bit dodgy and I had a traumatic incident with a drunken customer. I then moved onto a bartender job. This was a small Italian restaurant where they only had one bartender on at a time and I thrived, I had my own little “station” to manage as I pleased without other staff members hovering. I am quite clumsy and dropped trays often but I was so good at the general management of the bar that the owners loved me, and this really built up my confidence.

My positive feedback in that job helped me decide I wanted try working abroad for a while, and I used an agency to land me a hotel front desk job in a country I was fascinated with, and accommodation was included. I got a 2 year visa. They sacked me after 3 months. My probation failure meeting discussed how I was “awkward and robotic” and “struggled to speak to guests”. This mentally destroyed me, I felt so attacked and not like a normal human being. My manager also said that I “confuse the hell out of everybody” and that I “appear to have a lot of hidden anger”. I was so confused, I don’t have a combative personality and I like to think I am kind and caring, so this was heartbreaking.

I flew home and didn’t leave my bed for a few months. I then got a job at a phone shop and that was actually fine for me, sitting at a computer suited me and I worked with 2 blokes who were very relaxed and not overly chatty. We had a laugh from time to time but I was mostly left to my own devices and it was lovely, I also was great at the actual work. I left as I was starting the get the interest in healthcare at this point and wanted some more relevant experience.

This is when I became a support worker for autistic, deaf and/or blind children, and I was wonderful at bonding with the children and understanding their needs, they really took to me. But I didn’t cope on one-to-one outings with the children. I would leave their lunchboxes on the bus, or forget their medication schedules and panic, mix up the details in their care plans etc. I knew that this was absolutely not on and I knew that my clumsiness was actively endangering the children, so I did the responsible thing of resigning. I knew I had to quit when my poor manager had to spend her evening trying to find a child’s backpack that I had left in McDonald’s, as it had essential medication in. I fucking hated myself.

Finally, my most recent job that I started 6 weeks ago is a waitressing role in a cafe. I have just moved in with my partner of a year and moved an hour away. I’ve coped with the move and new town okay, but I’m struggling with the job. I have a weird ability to smash interviews and really impress the interviewer, and then by the end of my first month they are wondering what the fuck happened. I think I can mask whatever is wrong with me for short periods but then it comes out eventually. I smashed the first 2 weeks of this waitressing job and was told I was excelling and that I had the potential to move up to supervisor in a few months, but now I’m really struggling to keep up with my tables and remember who needs to pay, who’s ordered what etc. I had a table with a peanut allergy come in the other week and I didn’t trust myself at all, I had to ask a manager to do it which isn’t a good look. I’m 21 and they have 16 year olds there who manage the job fine. All my managers talk to me like a child and I think they find me quite weird. I was sat waiting for my lift after finishing my shift the other day and one of my managers kept staring at me and she looked utterly baffled but never approached me. It’s like I bewilder people. They discussed in the probation meeting today that they don’t think I’m coping and that I may not be right for the team but they said they won’t decide fully until the end of my probation, but I’m quite clearly done for.

I have been in bits ever since, it’s a basic fucking waitressing job, 16 year olds can and do work this job and are fine. I think I’d work best in a job where I’m left to my own devices to get things done, rather than in a team where I really struggle with understanding the dynamics, politics etc - but I don’t know what jobs would have this structure. Ideally something where I'm left to work on a project independently then report to a manager weekly sounds bliss to me, but those jobs typically require degrees and experience.

I genuinely feel like I have some sort of brain damage sometimes. I’m starting to think I must have ADHD or autism but I’m scared to pursue the diagnosis.
As for seeking a diagnosis, my partner is from an Eastern European country when everybody is expected to just get on with it and not dwell on anything or seek a diagnosis, and I think if I told him I wanted to pursue a diagnosis he’d really struggle to get his head around it. I also think my mum would be in denial and would give me a hard time, my older brother has autism and she always says she’s glad she has a neurotypical daughter to help with his care in the future. I feel so alone, as I sit here tonight I feel like killing myself. I can’t cope with adult life at all. Please somebody reply I desperately need support I’m in floods of tears

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Sleepydoor · 14/07/2024 23:28

Hey there! I'm sorry to hear that you don't feel like you have a lot of support in real life. I don't have a lot of advice except to say that you sound like a very bright, conscientious person. At 21 so many of us were struggling with figuring out what we were doing with our lives, making mistakes, changing careers, changing programs, etc. Please don't be too hard on yourself as you figure things out. Getting a diagnosis means getting support if you need it and I hope you don't let other people's disappointment stop you from taking care of you.

RagzRebooted · 14/07/2024 23:30

I think you're right to suspect ADHD/Autism, my sibling is so similar to you and has had awful struggles with dropping out of various uni degrees and jobs and things over the years. Getting a diagnosis and learning coping mechanisms makes such a difference. You aren't broken, you're just wired a bit differently. You're clearly intelligent and articulate, you will find your niche eventually.
Healthcare/NHS work may well be a stretch at least for now, because of all the interpersonal stuff. Although something like radiography perhaps may suit as it is often smaller teams or working alone and only one patient at a time.
For minimum wage jobs, something like factory work where you have a narrow focus and everyone is too busy with their own task for chit chat may be an easier fit, just for the short term.

Counselling would be helpful, but obviously that's not always easy to access. But I'd start with a visit to the GP to discuss your concerns, especially if you're getting distressed to the point of feeling like you don't want to live. You have a lot of strengths and a lot to give, you just need time and support - if your partner won't be supportive perhaps they aren't right for you. You're very young still and don't have to settle down just yet.

Purpl · 14/07/2024 23:31

oh darling i’m so sorry life is so hard for you at the moment. please don’t give up. you have so much have achieved with your disabilities.
there is help out there. my daughter has said it took years helping to reach her how to list thing and urfa use but she got there in the end.
please get a go appointment urgently tomorrow or do to a walk in centre even a&e if you feel so low tonight.
there’s definitely a place for you in this world and i’m sure you have family and friends dw that love you dearly.
xxx

Menora · 14/07/2024 23:31

I don’t want to not reply to you after I have read your thread. I really feel for you, I think you are right that these are not the right jobs for you, but you should not give up hope of finding a job that would suit you. Please don’t do anything harmful to yourself, you are not a bad person at all. You are 21 and have really done a lot with your life to be honest, more than I had at that age! And I didn’t know what I wanted to do with my life at 21. I also have daughters your age and they don’t know what they want to do yet either, that isn’t unusual.

Can you speak to your GP about how you are feeling, and go from there? I think you need some support from a professional to help you get The help you need xxx

take care

Neolara · 14/07/2024 23:32

For what it's worth, it sounds like in the right environment and doing they right job, you'd be absolutely brilliant. In your own words, you "smashed" things academically and there have been some situations in which you've done really well. Waitressing is probably a pretty terrible option for someone with potential autism and ADHD. You just need to find the right fit.

I know you don't have a diagnosis yet, but it might be worth looking online for some autism communities. You may find people who have experienced similar challenges and have some suggestions for what might help.

Hankunamatata · 14/07/2024 23:33

Firstly it's finding the right job and structure that works for you. There is no way I could work as a waitress or bartender - tried and failed terribly as have poor working memory. Found a niche in argos in stock room. Not too much interactions with work people. Straight forward restocking and picking items.

What allied health care degree did you go for? If it's not the degree for you look at transferring. There's loads of ND people in biomed degrees. Lab based and unless they have changed no placements unless you choose to do a year out. It took me a good few years after degree to adapt to my weaknesses. As said iv poor working memory so I have to write everything down with phone reminders and a to do priority list. I drive my boss in sane with post it notes as reminders. If I'm learning a new technique I have copy of sop plus side notes and take my time - I refuse now to be rushed or interrupted if I'm concentrating. I have a check list of things on the back of the lab door of things to do before I leave lab and head for home. It's what works for you.

You can also reach out to student services at uni. They are usually very good

Chiconbelge · 14/07/2024 23:35

Hi there - please give yourself a bit of a break. You are very young and you’ve already done a lot of things in life and had a lot of different experiences some good and some bad. My son had very similar struggles to you and got his ADHD diagnosis when he was your age and at Uni. He actually got the diagnosis through Uni and I wonder if this would be the right place for you to start? This would also help you to get some more help with the things you find more difficult about your course. My son would tell you that the diagnosis was life changing, he felt so much better afterwards. Your mum sounds very understanding, can you talk to her about all of this?

Mystro202 · 14/07/2024 23:36

Could you go back to the phone shop job or similar? It sounds like you really enjoyed it and it would give you some confidence back.

AngelDelightButNotStrawberry · 14/07/2024 23:38

Oh gosh I’m so sorry you feel like this. If it helps so many of us health professionals are autistic! It’s what makes many of us good at our jobs. Don’t give up.

pastaandpesto · 14/07/2024 23:40

I'm knackered and should be in bed but I just wanted to say that from the way you have written about your experiences I am absolutely and completely positive that you are going to be extremely successful once you have found your niche. Please, please don't give up on yourself. It does sound like you're struggling with some executive function stuff but I'm sure with the right support and strategies you can overcome your difficulties and thrive.

Pushmepullyou · 14/07/2024 23:44

I’ve got adhd and i’ve been sacked for incompetence as a waitress, a zoo keeper and a packer and picker with Bon Marche.

I’ve got my own successful company now in professional services and prior to that was a board director of a fairly large similar company. If I tried waitressing again I have no doubt I’d be sacked within a fortnight.

If your work difficulties are caused by neurodivergence then it’s not necessarily the case that a random minimum wage job is going to be a good fit for you. You need to find something that uses your strengths and relies less on your weakest areas. I am really good at the technical aspects of my job and also it turns out very good at the commercial side so I’ve managed to progress despite being continually late, flakey and sometimes frankly a bit odd (in the context of a corporate environment).

What are you good at? What do you enjoy? What careers would bring those elements to the fore?

ThisTipsyQuoter · 14/07/2024 23:44

I wanted to be an occupational therapist, particularly working with special needs children. My placements (placements are randomly assigned, hence why I wasn't on a paediatric placement) were on a geriatric palliative care ward. Maybe that's why I struggled to engage but I think there's more too it. I don't think I have the communication skills to deal with aspects of the job such as multi-disciplinary meetings.

I have noticed as well I can really bond and connect with people 1 to 1, but then struggle with a group. There's a few women at my current job who are lovely and we will chat, but then if they are in a group I find myself becoming mute as I can't keep up with the jist of the conversation and I stumble my words and become awkward. I thinks that's why I am fine in job interviews, because it's typically a 1-to-1 conversation. Then I get the job, meet the team and become a bumbling idiot, leaving the person who interviewed me highly confused.

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taylorswift1989 · 14/07/2024 23:46

Yeah I would definitely pursue a diagnosis OP and in the meantime, find some online communities for people with ADHD/autism. It sounds like you could use some support.

It's pretty classic ADHD to have loads of jobs. I've had more than 50 jobs! My CV is insane. But I wasn't diagnosed until I was 49.

I think you just have to see it as information gathering at this point - figuring out what you're good at. Sounds like you're much better when you can manage your own workload, for example. You sound creative and intelligent and also very hard on yourself.

Have you ever looked into RSD - rejection sensitivity dysphoria? It's a common trait in people with ADHD. It means you can take rejection really hard. Like, instead of feeling a bit glum for a while, you feel you must be worthless and life isn't worth living. It sounds like that might be part of what's going on for you.

FusionChefGeoff · 14/07/2024 23:48

You have shown great self awareness and I agree that it's the jobs that are wrong - not you

You have started to work out where you excel so definitely start there when looking for your next job.

Not working with the public
Not working in a team
Routine / repetitive may fit too - less likely to forget things if it's consistent process

There are absolutely jobs that fit your skills, experience and character so don't give up.

I also agree that you should try for a diagnosis - or if you can't / don't want to go down that route, why don't you read up on coping strategies / tactics that are recommended for people with autism / AdHD and try them for yourself. See what works.

CatMumSlave · 14/07/2024 23:50

I had assessments for Autism 5 years ago age 35.

Never did I think I'd have it but I couldn't understand why I can't work and be an adult.

Obviously many do work and are very clever but I know I was different.

QuitChewingMyPlectrum · 14/07/2024 23:52

Please pursue a diagnosis. It will at least lead to clarity - if you are diagnosed you can apply for access to work and get a coach to help you along with other adjustments.

You're not alone, message me if I can be of any assistance (ADHD and Autism coach here) I'm also autistic and have ADHD.

MyBrasTooTight · 14/07/2024 23:53

As some pp have said, try not to be too hard on yourself! You sound like a very accomplished person already who knows what they want - you just have to find what works for you and what appeals to your interests/strengths. It can feel so demoralising when you see others doing something that should be ‘easy’ but remember we’re all different and have different skill sets and that’s what makes us unique. I have no doubt you’ll find something that you really excel at - just keep persevering until you find it. Also the idea about pursing a diagnosis or finding a group to join is a great one for helping you come to terms with yourself and realising there’s nothing wrong with the way you are at all. Also it might be useful to learn coping mechanisms and ways to manage. It’s not always easy being neurodivergent in a neurotypical world.

ThisTipsyQuoter · 14/07/2024 23:55

Funnily enough my partner recommended and picker/packer job having done it himself for a few years. He said you get put on a station and have a set job to do on repeat for 8 hours and that's that. Managers are around but there's dozens of you so they aren't breathing down your neck unless you're blatantly skiving. That sounds ideal for me, I wouldn't want to do it permanently but I need something I can cope with as a stop-gap until I find something that suits me for a career.

I don't like jobs where people are breathing down my neck, even if that makes me sound very immature. It puts me off. In this restaurant managers circle the place constantly and will check in every 5 minutes and it throws me off. Then I will go into the kitchen to get some sauce for the table and all the staff are in their having a laugh or doing joke karaoke, just generally messing about, managers included and it drives me nuts.

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ThisTipsyQuoter · 14/07/2024 23:56

*there not their, sorry I'm knackered

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ThisTipsyQuoter · 14/07/2024 23:58

Thank you so much everybody for you replies so far, I love Mumsnet. I've had several threads on here throughout the years when needing support and everybody has always been so bloody lovely.

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taylorswift1989 · 14/07/2024 23:46

Yeah I would definitely pursue a diagnosis OP and in the meantime, find some online communities for people with ADHD/autism. It sounds like you could use some support.

It's pretty classic ADHD to have loads of jobs. I've had more than 50 jobs! My CV is insane. But I wasn't diagnosed until I was 49.

I think you just have to see it as information gathering at this point - figuring out what you're good at. Sounds like you're much better when you can manage your own workload, for example. You sound creative and intelligent and also very hard on yourself.

Have you ever looked into RSD - rejection sensitivity dysphoria? It's a common trait in people with ADHD. It means you can take rejection really hard. Like, instead of feeling a bit glum for a while, you feel you must be worthless and life isn't worth living. It sounds like that might be part of what's going on for you.

I deffo have rejection sensitivity dysphoria. I burst out crying. After my probation meeting today I had to work a few more hours and people kept asking me what was wrong.

In the early stages of dating my partner there was all sorts of issues stemming from this. He meant well and was just trying to help me but he told me I was cooking rice wrong and was burning it and I spiralled thinking I wasn't good enough for him. It was ridiculous

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CherrySocks · 15/07/2024 00:07

Also you are only 21, it takes most people quite a while to find a job/career that suits them.
You come over very well in written messages, maybe you could get a job that uses that skill.

NotDonna · 15/07/2024 00:10

You sound amazing and with great insight. You’ve incredible strengths. Nailing exams & assessments. Being brilliant at interviews.
It’s useful having a diagnosis, not as a label, but as a tool to discover what strategies you can use. A lot more research has been carried out since you were tested for autism and you may be non-stereotypical, which can lead to a missed -diagnosis. Or you could have ADHD or both. You are experiencing difficulties so regardless of any diagnosis, there needs to be work arounds; including finding the right type of career fit. Masking is exhausting! Try to be much kinder to yourself!

taylorswift1989 · 15/07/2024 00:12

It's not ridiculous, OP. It's just how your brain functions. You can learn to manage if (with meds or not) but it won't completely go away.

The good thing about a diagnosis is that you stop blaming yourself and start to understand that you're doing your best with a brain that isn't typical. You can start to be realistic and instead of hating yourself for not being good at something, you can shrug it off and say, my brain can't do that thing. It's not a reflection on your value.

Bunnyannesummers · 15/07/2024 00:16

If you’re currently at a university, get in touch with student support - they can offer counselling and even support with diagnosis in some cases.
they’ll also have a careers service, who might be able to help you find something suitable - both part time and careers wise. If you get a role within the uni theyre usually great with adjustments.
If you did pursue a diagnosis and went on to work in the NHS, they’d make reasonable adjustments to help you work - so your dream of being an OT isn’t so far fetched