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To think I have autism or ADHD? I can’t cope anymore and want to die

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ThisTipsyQuoter · 14/07/2024 23:20

I’m writing this in tears, I want to just end it all. I am 21 and have just been told today, 6 weeks into a cafe waitressing job that I’m unlikely to survive my probation period with them. Got quite upset and sought comfort from my partner when I got home who instead got frustrated and said he doesn’t see how we’ll manage our plans for the future (kids, saving a house deposit) if I can’t even hold down a basic minimum wage job, and he has a fair point.

I have always been like this, I feel like there is something wrong with me. I try to run away from my problems but I’ve realised the problem is with me. As a child, I had an autism assessment (which found me to be neurotypical) by my pre-school as I had selective mutism. I was perfectly fine, chatty and happy at home with my parents - I came from a stable family. But I’d go into pre-school and was 100% mute. I can’t remember why I was like this or what my thought process was, and that’s highly frustrating. This continued until the age of 7 where I began to whisper to other children, and by the end of Year 6 I was fully verbal and had a lovely group of friends. I was always very much into imaginative play up until the age of 10/11, which I feel I should have grown out of by then.

Starting high school was traumatic for me, I lasted a month. I couldn’t cope. I kept losing my timetable, planner, P.E kit. I couldn’t make sense of the layout of the building or homework. I would become incredibly overwhelmed at lunch time with kids bustling through the corridors. I had some sort of nervous breakdown that terrified my poor mum so much that she withdrew me from school to home educate me as she genuinely thought I was going to kill myself if forced to go, and she was probably right.

Home education was okay for me, my mum found a lovely tutor who did group sessions of 5 or 6 kids who also couldn’t cope with school and we had lessons at the local community centre. I did my GCSE’s with her and smashed them, I was able to be very academic in the right environment. I did an access course at college (this was the height of Covid so there was no social aspect, it was all online) and smashed it, and I have just finished my first year of a bachelor’s degree in an allied health profession. I have smashed all of my assignments, but I haven’t made a single friend or even had a proper conversation with any of my peers. I try but I stumble over my words and I find it genuinely exhausting.

I’m also losing my motivation for my degree. I remember I had a phase of really wanting to work in the NHS/Healthcare, and it became somewhat of an obsession. I watched so many dramas or documentaries about working in one specific profession and did so much research and I thought “this must be my niche!”. But then a few weeks into uni I just didn’t give a shit anymore and I’ve struggled to get back that initial feeling of euphoria. I passed placements in first year by the skin of my teeth, they said they felt I wasn’t engaging and didn’t show enough interest in the subject. I lied to my partner and said I’d had brilliant feedback from placements, because I’m so mortified by the reality. He was so proud of me and I don’t deserve it. I can’t see how I’ll pass next placement, so uni is probably fucked. I’ve had other fleeting obsessions before, in my teen years it was a character from a TV show. I also desperately want a baby, but I think that's a hormonal thing rather than an autism/ADHD thing and I am managing to keep it under control.

Now, onto jobs. My first job was waitressing but this was the height of Covid when it was dead, I was barely there and then quit a few months in because the commute home at night was a bit dodgy and I had a traumatic incident with a drunken customer. I then moved onto a bartender job. This was a small Italian restaurant where they only had one bartender on at a time and I thrived, I had my own little “station” to manage as I pleased without other staff members hovering. I am quite clumsy and dropped trays often but I was so good at the general management of the bar that the owners loved me, and this really built up my confidence.

My positive feedback in that job helped me decide I wanted try working abroad for a while, and I used an agency to land me a hotel front desk job in a country I was fascinated with, and accommodation was included. I got a 2 year visa. They sacked me after 3 months. My probation failure meeting discussed how I was “awkward and robotic” and “struggled to speak to guests”. This mentally destroyed me, I felt so attacked and not like a normal human being. My manager also said that I “confuse the hell out of everybody” and that I “appear to have a lot of hidden anger”. I was so confused, I don’t have a combative personality and I like to think I am kind and caring, so this was heartbreaking.

I flew home and didn’t leave my bed for a few months. I then got a job at a phone shop and that was actually fine for me, sitting at a computer suited me and I worked with 2 blokes who were very relaxed and not overly chatty. We had a laugh from time to time but I was mostly left to my own devices and it was lovely, I also was great at the actual work. I left as I was starting the get the interest in healthcare at this point and wanted some more relevant experience.

This is when I became a support worker for autistic, deaf and/or blind children, and I was wonderful at bonding with the children and understanding their needs, they really took to me. But I didn’t cope on one-to-one outings with the children. I would leave their lunchboxes on the bus, or forget their medication schedules and panic, mix up the details in their care plans etc. I knew that this was absolutely not on and I knew that my clumsiness was actively endangering the children, so I did the responsible thing of resigning. I knew I had to quit when my poor manager had to spend her evening trying to find a child’s backpack that I had left in McDonald’s, as it had essential medication in. I fucking hated myself.

Finally, my most recent job that I started 6 weeks ago is a waitressing role in a cafe. I have just moved in with my partner of a year and moved an hour away. I’ve coped with the move and new town okay, but I’m struggling with the job. I have a weird ability to smash interviews and really impress the interviewer, and then by the end of my first month they are wondering what the fuck happened. I think I can mask whatever is wrong with me for short periods but then it comes out eventually. I smashed the first 2 weeks of this waitressing job and was told I was excelling and that I had the potential to move up to supervisor in a few months, but now I’m really struggling to keep up with my tables and remember who needs to pay, who’s ordered what etc. I had a table with a peanut allergy come in the other week and I didn’t trust myself at all, I had to ask a manager to do it which isn’t a good look. I’m 21 and they have 16 year olds there who manage the job fine. All my managers talk to me like a child and I think they find me quite weird. I was sat waiting for my lift after finishing my shift the other day and one of my managers kept staring at me and she looked utterly baffled but never approached me. It’s like I bewilder people. They discussed in the probation meeting today that they don’t think I’m coping and that I may not be right for the team but they said they won’t decide fully until the end of my probation, but I’m quite clearly done for.

I have been in bits ever since, it’s a basic fucking waitressing job, 16 year olds can and do work this job and are fine. I think I’d work best in a job where I’m left to my own devices to get things done, rather than in a team where I really struggle with understanding the dynamics, politics etc - but I don’t know what jobs would have this structure. Ideally something where I'm left to work on a project independently then report to a manager weekly sounds bliss to me, but those jobs typically require degrees and experience.

I genuinely feel like I have some sort of brain damage sometimes. I’m starting to think I must have ADHD or autism but I’m scared to pursue the diagnosis.
As for seeking a diagnosis, my partner is from an Eastern European country when everybody is expected to just get on with it and not dwell on anything or seek a diagnosis, and I think if I told him I wanted to pursue a diagnosis he’d really struggle to get his head around it. I also think my mum would be in denial and would give me a hard time, my older brother has autism and she always says she’s glad she has a neurotypical daughter to help with his care in the future. I feel so alone, as I sit here tonight I feel like killing myself. I can’t cope with adult life at all. Please somebody reply I desperately need support I’m in floods of tears

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Fluffytoebeanz · 15/07/2024 09:08

You sound very like my DD14. She has ADHD and dyspraxia. And is very clumsy. She is not ASD. Go and start to get a diagnosis, meds have been life changing for her and I think would help you. We joke that waitressing would be a terrible job for her but there are so many other things she's good at

TheSerenePinkOrca · 15/07/2024 09:15

@ThisTipsyQuoter It could be dyspraxia?

That would cover a HUGE amount of things you've said - dropping stuff all the time, struggling with orientation around buildings, struggling with speech and coming across as robotic when talking, and even struggling with emotional issues.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/developmental-coordination-disorder-dyspraxia-in-adults/

nhs.uk

Dyspraxia in adults

Find out more about dyspraxia, which is a common disorder that affects movement and co-ordination. Read about the symptoms, causes and treatments for dyspraxia, and find out when to get medical help.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/developmental-coordination-disorder-dyspraxia-in-adults

SwordToFlamethrower · 15/07/2024 09:17

Ignore anyone saying you don't need to be assessed or diagnosed. They are ablist and talking nonsense.

Having just been through a long assessment and diagnosis of adhd and asd myself recently, I can tell you it is a validating, positively life changing experience. You can also then ask for reasonable adjustments in education and employment to make navigating life easier for you.

Please do go for it. Use the "right to chose" option when you see your gp.

Bobloblaw84 · 15/07/2024 09:40

Tl;dr

Cafe work/hospo is one of the hardest fucking jobs. I sucked at it. It doesn’t mean you will suck at everything.

Your partner is a dick and is damaging your self esteem.

Milly16 · 15/07/2024 09:49

You're so young - some people take a bit longer than others to figure out how to work in groups etc. I got sacked a lot from temp type jobs in my early 20s and am now successful in a respected profession (where I mostly work on my own). I agree with yhe others that you will find your niche and be successful in time.

ThisTipsyQuoter · 15/07/2024 18:06

I still feel so anxious today. I have to go into work tomorrow and I feel ill at the thought.

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ThisTipsyQuoter · 15/07/2024 18:09

I feel like I lean more towards ADHD as I don’t get the worry with routine that is typical with autism. I enjoy a chance of scenery and routine, always enjoy the fresh start with moving house and I’m always excited to start a new job rather than nervous (until it goes to tit then I start dreading coming in).

but can ADHD be behind the social difficulties? Not understanding the workplace politics, stumbling words and repeating the same conversation with people? Isn’t that classic ASD? I never connect with anyone

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ThisTipsyQuoter · 15/07/2024 18:11

Thank you everyone once again who’s been offering support and advice. It really helped stop me spiralling last night. I woke up feeling better, did see that nasty comment left by one poster before it was deleted and that set me back quite a lot but I’m plodding along.

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ThisTipsyQuoter · 15/07/2024 18:17

I can understand people’s concerns about my partner but he isn’t a bad person. He’s held and comforted me through many a panic attack and is always around to build me up when I start making self-deprecating comments. He never shouts or intimidates me.

I can understand why he got a bit frustrated last night. We are saving up to buy our home and the plan was to have the deposit in 2 years (we’re buying our HA property through right to buy with the huge discount saving enough in 2 years is a realistic goal) and it’s obviously going to be delayed if I keep losing jobs. We’ve also agreed we want a baby relatively soon hence why we want to buy the house ASAP, so we can then start TTC. It’s a joint goal for us so it’s not just a case of him putting me under pressure.

As for him not understanding neurodiversity, that is due to the country he is from not acknowledging or diagnosing it. I think he’d struggle to get his head around it initially but we love and care for each other very much and I think he’d come round if he could be convinced that a diagnosis would benefit me

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ileftmypotatointheovenallnight · 15/07/2024 19:34

It's possible to have both. I was dx with inattentive ADHD aged 39.

When I got medicated for ADHD it was great, but I just felt like there was something else. The more focused I got the more CONFUSING I found social situations. The INCONSISTENCY in the way some people say things in a quiet tone when it's actually the most important piece of information, or they EXPECT you to get a hint without directly asking you to do something. It's exhausting trying to read what they mean. I started to feel like I missed the handbook and I needed to go back to study skills around sales, communication, negotiation, as I just don't get the 'games people play', or at least what I now understand is simply that my brain processes more slowly. The difficulty is that time moves quicker - you only become the person that you need you to be with time, and by the time you become that person, the situation needs you to be someone else! But just build a solid foundation so you can weather peaks and troughs of life.

I also found that I was more sensitive to noise, I never realised how turned around I get when a routine changes too. Every online test I do for ASD comes out at just above the threshold so I think I am probably High Functioning Autistic. It's worth a look at Leanne Maskell and her book A-Z of ADHD. She has ADHD and says she's sure she is autistic but never diagnosed.

It's interesting about dyspraxia. I love movement where I get into a flow state - bike riding, swimming, skating, yoga etc. It requires no mental effort and is very repetitive. More recently I have been doing strength training with weights and this is SO beneficial. It literally changed my ability to operate with precision in a way I can't explain. I also highly recommend it for mental wellbeing - that's the main reason I do it. This is the only thing that comes close to ADHD meds for me.

Spatial awareness is a 'use it or lose it' skill for me that I have to keep practising.

Another thing that helps is eating enough protein and regular meal times. I also pretty much quit alcohol and sugar.

ADHD meds help witj emotional regulation and getting started but they are not a magic bullet.

There is a good book called Smart But Scattered Guide to Success for Adults which explains the main executive function skills in depth and has tips.

Sorry that was long and a brain dump!

SwordToFlamethrower · 15/07/2024 20:26

ThisTipsyQuoter · 15/07/2024 18:09

I feel like I lean more towards ADHD as I don’t get the worry with routine that is typical with autism. I enjoy a chance of scenery and routine, always enjoy the fresh start with moving house and I’m always excited to start a new job rather than nervous (until it goes to tit then I start dreading coming in).

but can ADHD be behind the social difficulties? Not understanding the workplace politics, stumbling words and repeating the same conversation with people? Isn’t that classic ASD? I never connect with anyone

Yeah that's why you're probably both.

They often sit in conflict with each other, rather than complementing each other.

ASAP go to your gp, it will be so worth it! Remember to ask for Axia and ADHD360 using the right to choose pathway!

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 16/07/2024 20:51

Babes, reading this I thought, I could have written this.

I was diagnosed last week at the young age of 46, with combined adhd and when I realised last year that I’ve been loving with it most of my life, so much made sense and it’s a relief to know that I couldn’t help it. I still can’t help it.
Masking is exhausting which becomes emotionally overwhelming. That can be mistaken for depression.

My advice would be, find an organisation like ADHD 360. I used them and had a good experience; I’ve since been told they don’t have great reviews so I’m not going to say you must go with them. There are other organisations that are helping support the nhs by providing clinicians and doctors who can assess and prescribe.

Do it now darling while you’re young.
Dont be scared. Good luck x

hk1993x · 17/07/2024 10:22

If its any consultation hun, I was a stay at home mum for almost 10 years. I went to college and got my HNC and now I'm in a place where it is so bleak I can't see a way out. I gave up uni in january with the opportunity to to back in September, but I can't see it happening. I just wanted to say, no matter how hard you work, what qualifications you get etc, your health comes first. Concentrate on getting yourself well and try again, your still young. I'm working to try get myself well again and can think about how I want my future to be, please don't be too hard on yourself and your partner should be in support of you getting well enough to accomplish what you want to in life 💚 sending big hugs xx

lolit · 19/07/2024 02:04

Op, you probably have both autism and ADHD. These are classic symptoms you are describing and I recognise myself in them.

Customer service jobs are basically impossible for people like us, but there are other kind of jobs you can do. I still remember working at Costa and having the supervisor look at me like I'm the biggest moron she's ever seen because I was bad at cleaning, but now I work as an online course instructor and I'm good at it specifically because I'm just given the course materials and left alone to teach the course with no one breathing down my neck.

Take a breather and try to think of other jobs you can do that are more suited to you and pursue a diagnosis. And don't be afraid to ask jobs for reasonable adjustments. Some workplaces can be very understanding and reasonable.

Rumpelstiltskin1 · 02/09/2024 11:18

If you pursue a diagnosis you may feel more confident to have those chats with people in your OT job. You can say to your team, "Listen, you might find me a bit quiet in meetings - I'm just listening." Or you can advocate that you prefer more structured ways to contribute, i. e. Being sent out the agenda first and being asked to email back about certain points they would like feedback on. You can always change jobs/retrain once you have your qualification. I absolutely feel the pressure you are putting on yourself to conform to these invisible neurotypical rules. It's not fair! And I bet that without that pressure, and in a job that suits you, you will flourish! Interesting what you said about your European partner not being into these types of diagnoses. I wonder if these countries are more direct with their communication in the first place, therefore ND people don't have such a complex social web to fathom out. I always say though that autism/Adhd is not a label, it's a profile. And I think society benefits from understanding that there are different thinking and communication styles in our midst. The next challenge as a society will be to adapt structures and expectations to support these!

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