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One major reason for poor mental health is some people want to see you suffer, surrender and die?

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Dailymenu · 02/07/2022 06:49

Anyone have insight on this that they'd be willing to comment on? Despite being resilient and doing everything- and beyond - of what is required of me in every aspect of my life, I feel I'm still not making headway. I'm a good mother, hard worker and keep myself to myself and even that is not valued. I have been to hell and back.

Advice on the thread title and the sub context is appreciated.

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Dailymenu · 02/07/2022 08:59

Blowthemandown · 02/07/2022 08:56

So where you said you are doing double the work without a pay rise, could you talk to work about this? I got my job re-graded to reflect the change in responsibilities. It wasn’t quick and I had to persevere but has been worth it. You would need to write down your reasons and practise how to approach the conversation maybe.

I'm looking into this.

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Dailymenu · 02/07/2022 08:59

Adversity · 02/07/2022 08:57

A persons personal financial circumstance doesn’t have any real bearing on suitability for a role. As much as being a single parent brings another layer of complexity and often hardship it’s not a protected characteristic.

You have not been promoted, you have been harassed by your neighbour, have financial issues and support parents financially at a great distance.

What you have is a very difficult life with many things pulling at you and no support. Your actual post headline indicates a level of stress that is unmanageable and I would suggest you seek help. The headline in your post indicates you think you are being persecuted which to me indicates you are beyond regular levels of stress.

Thank you. I know x

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SaltySalad · 02/07/2022 09:19

I think you sound very down and unsupported which is a tough place to be.

I am also 💯 certain that millions feel just like you do.

Many people not only feel undervalued but are undervalued at work. In Western society money is God and humans are expendable.

And being a lone parent can be very tough. It’s hard being the one solely responsible for providing and raising children. Breaks are few and far between.

If you are a lone parent and feeling undervalued at work I can completely understand why you might be struggling with feelings of despondency.

I think also that a lot of people simply don’t understand the expectation in some cultures to provide for elders. To not provide is unthinkable.

And, having been a migrant, I also understand the feelings of not belonging or being accepted. I’m sorry if I have misinterpreted that but I often see in here posters making very blithe statements clearly ignorant about the challenges faced by migrants. The endless “where are you from?” type questions to remind you that you will never be one of them.

Do you have friends from or connections to your culture of origin? I think it’s really important.

And, I’m sorry if it sounds a bit crazy, but do you do anything creative? It’s good for the soul.

I don’t know what is going on in your life but I hope that no one is trying to make you suffer. In here, however, yea there are plenty of posters who delight in kicking someone when they’re down.

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 02/07/2022 09:31

Hello @Dailymenu we're sorry you're feeling this way. Please take a look at our Mental Health webguide for information on support and advice services. We're moving this over to the Mental Health board now.

Dailymenu · 02/07/2022 09:43

SaltySalad · 02/07/2022 09:19

I think you sound very down and unsupported which is a tough place to be.

I am also 💯 certain that millions feel just like you do.

Many people not only feel undervalued but are undervalued at work. In Western society money is God and humans are expendable.

And being a lone parent can be very tough. It’s hard being the one solely responsible for providing and raising children. Breaks are few and far between.

If you are a lone parent and feeling undervalued at work I can completely understand why you might be struggling with feelings of despondency.

I think also that a lot of people simply don’t understand the expectation in some cultures to provide for elders. To not provide is unthinkable.

And, having been a migrant, I also understand the feelings of not belonging or being accepted. I’m sorry if I have misinterpreted that but I often see in here posters making very blithe statements clearly ignorant about the challenges faced by migrants. The endless “where are you from?” type questions to remind you that you will never be one of them.

Do you have friends from or connections to your culture of origin? I think it’s really important.

And, I’m sorry if it sounds a bit crazy, but do you do anything creative? It’s good for the soul.

I don’t know what is going on in your life but I hope that no one is trying to make you suffer. In here, however, yea there are plenty of posters who delight in kicking someone when they’re down.

I am crying. Thank you. I am brave I am strong. You have hit the nail on the head x

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Squareflair · 02/07/2022 09:44

Dailymenu · 02/07/2022 08:52

Left of field because I'm a 'forinner'? I'm not such a dick that I don't realise any of this. Thank you for your advice x

Nope, nothing to do with being foreign I think the fact you have extrapolated that from that comment highlights the point. It sounds like you would benefit from some support for your mental health otherwise this perpetual victim mentality will poison every area of your life.

SmileyPiuPiu · 02/07/2022 09:49

Dailymenu · 02/07/2022 08:27

Because I am a single parent and single income household? Surely that's not hard to deduce?

Let's fuck over the most vulnerable in society and blame them for it .... who are you that you do understand this simple concept

I genuinely think it is bizarre that a company would choose promotions based on who receives benefits. I think there must be other factors. Have you asked for feed back from the interviews? If they have told you it is due to benefits then seek advice from ACAS.

In the meantime have you approached your doctor about your feelings? Their may be a support group that can assist?

Howmanysleepsnow · 02/07/2022 09:59

A “classic narc” (assuming you mean someone with narcissistic personality disorder) would put the blame for anything that went wrong/ didn’t go how they wanted on someone else and never consider they could be at fault or that outcomes could be in part due to their actions. They’d see themselves as central to everyone else’s story and others as bit players.
I don’t see how @Hoppinggreen fits this description from that one post. I also hate to see a diagnosable condition used as an insult. No doubt people with narcissistic PD find life very difficult as a result as they will constantly feel others are against them and this will affect their ability to move forward.

OP, in regards to your post I think it’s more likely your employer makes decisions based on what’s best for them / the business rather than with intent to make you suffer. As well as skills and ability they’ll look at things like attitude, communication and ability to fit into the team. Could you revisit your interview skills and how you come across at work looking at these areas maybe as you say you have the necessary ability and knowledge for promotion? Maybe another applicant was a better fit? Getting a job isn’t just about being able to do the job, it’s about demonstrating at interview you’re a better fit for the job. It sounds like they had a better applicant last time. Maybe next time you’ll be more successful at interview.
Dont take it personally. Other peoples reasons for doing things aren’t generally about you, they’re about them and what they need/ want.
Good luck with everything.

Hoppinggreen · 02/07/2022 10:46

Howmanysleepsnow · 02/07/2022 09:59

A “classic narc” (assuming you mean someone with narcissistic personality disorder) would put the blame for anything that went wrong/ didn’t go how they wanted on someone else and never consider they could be at fault or that outcomes could be in part due to their actions. They’d see themselves as central to everyone else’s story and others as bit players.
I don’t see how @Hoppinggreen fits this description from that one post. I also hate to see a diagnosable condition used as an insult. No doubt people with narcissistic PD find life very difficult as a result as they will constantly feel others are against them and this will affect their ability to move forward.

OP, in regards to your post I think it’s more likely your employer makes decisions based on what’s best for them / the business rather than with intent to make you suffer. As well as skills and ability they’ll look at things like attitude, communication and ability to fit into the team. Could you revisit your interview skills and how you come across at work looking at these areas maybe as you say you have the necessary ability and knowledge for promotion? Maybe another applicant was a better fit? Getting a job isn’t just about being able to do the job, it’s about demonstrating at interview you’re a better fit for the job. It sounds like they had a better applicant last time. Maybe next time you’ll be more successful at interview.
Dont take it personally. Other peoples reasons for doing things aren’t generally about you, they’re about them and what they need/ want.
Good luck with everything.

Think there might have been some projection going on

Joe2022 · 02/07/2022 17:56

Ohthatsexciting · 02/07/2022 08:32

Good heavens op - you sound thoroughly unpleasant!

and if you’re in a job that promotes peoples on the basis that they don’t recieve UC or CM (although you must have told them for them to know) - well, that is very peculiar indeed

So it seems whatever thread you are in you just argue with everyone ! You really are a piece of work.

Ohthatsexciting · 02/07/2022 18:51

You’re a funny one @Joe2022

MarshaMelrose · 02/07/2022 19:00

I am brave I am strong.

Actually, @Dailymenu , I think that people with MH issues do tend to be brave and strong. How else, feeling as awful as we do, do we get out of bed every day and face a new day? It would be so much easier just to surrender and not try.

But on the whole I think these issues come from inside ourselves rather than from other people. They're from our own insecurities and our own impossible standards that we inevitable fail against. That's why, when we try to get better, we need to just focus and concentrate on looking after ourselves.

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