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"putting the SPRING back in our step - village support for depression and anxiety"

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LEMmingaround · 03/03/2014 21:29

Heres the new thread guys. What is this, thread 9?

This is a thread that is situated in a virtual village of support for those suffering from mental health issues, or just those struggling with what life throws at them.

Please feel free to join in.

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SnowyMouse · 04/05/2014 19:58

I'm also 5' nothing. I think that if it's so easy, then why do so many people put on weight with psychiatric drugs?

Swoopdewoop · 04/05/2014 20:34

I've never found it easy. I'm a stone heavier than you are and it does get me down, affects my r/ship as well. I've tried different diets but have decided I just need to exercise more but motivation is hard to come by. Also, sometimes I think fuck it, I'm not 21 any more, but the culture today makes it so hard to accept yourself.

NanaNina · 04/05/2014 20:36

Oh snowy I'm so sorry you are feeling so crap - I don't know very much about your particular mental illness but I know you get depression and that makes the voices harder to block out. Has anyone mentioned ECT for the depression? I was quite shocked when I was last an IP in 2010 to discover that there were several patients (in the older people's ward) having ECT and I mentioned this to the trainee GP who was on the ward (he was very approachable - unlike the conslt psych) and he said that it was a last resort but had proved to be very effective for drug resistant depression and depression with psychotic episode.

I actually saw it work wonders (as it were) as when I was admitted there was a lady wondering around obviously in a state of confusion and she kept asking if I knew here and other bizarre things, and the staff were having to feed her. Within about 3 days she was more or less normal and she said she suffered with reactive depression. I wasn't sure about this because I didn't know then that psychotic episode can occur in depression. However this lady had no memory at all of being in a state of being out of touch with reality so I was careful what I said. She had apparently had 8 ECTs, and had been on the ward for several weeks before I was admitted.

The trainee GP told me that his father (also a GP) had a psychiatric history and had had ECT and that if he became mentally ill and was resistant to drugs he wouldn't hesitate about having ECT. There is as you might already know a potential problem with memory, but the consensus seems to be that you are unable to remember events immediately before the ECTs.

Hi swoop are you feeling any better, and I certainly second what you say about AD meds and Anti-psychotic meds (in particular) cause weight gain and not because of increased appetite but the medics won't really agree. Most of us on this thread are 5ft 1/2" and overweight, and on meds for mental illness, and I think this is more than co-incidence (apologies to the scientists Lem for one) as I do realise that my "sample" is very small!!

I'm just starting to feel a bit more human after a really horrid day. Had another long cry when DP came back from his walk with the ramblers and that shifted a bit of tension. Am just hoping that today isn't the beginning of a load of crap days, but that remains to be seen - does anyone else just have crap days without any triggers? Sorry if that's a daft question as I know we all have ups and downs with our MH.

NanaNina · 04/05/2014 20:37

Cross posted there Snowy about us 5ft nothings, MH meds and being overweight.

SnowyMouse · 04/05/2014 20:42

I have schizoaffective disorder, so depression and psychosis. I can't have ECT, but I've also seen it be really effective for people. Smile I hope you get an up soon, NN, I think that some of my bad days just happen..

Swoopdewoop · 04/05/2014 21:00

Through reading this thread I realise how fortunate I am with my illness. It doesn't even feel like an illness to me, more a personality disorder, though as I'm writing this I realise that's a recognised term in mental health, isn't it? Forgive me, I'm new to this (treatment since october last year) and I'm still finding my feet. Psychosis is something I've been learning about over the past year or two via a friend of mine. I know it can be devastating and snowy I really admire you because although it may not feel like it, you seem to be coping really well.

Thanks NN I'm feeling better than I was though I'm not exactly the dynamite person I'd like to be. Smile I'm a chronic under-achiever and it would probably help me to find out why. So many annoying over-lapping symptoms. I didn't realise we were all 5ft nothings on this thread, that's weird. And to answer your question, yes, I think it's possible just to have a crap day. It doesn't necessarily mean you're about to go down the rabbit hole.

(((hugs to you both)))

Appletini · 04/05/2014 21:31

Sorry I haven't read all the posts.

Have just had a complete meltdown over - wait for it - cat poo. Total crying mess. Not coping. Feel so overwhelmed right now.

SnowyMouse · 04/05/2014 21:49

(((( Appletini )))). Take some deep breaths?

Appletini · 04/05/2014 21:56

Thank you. DH has calmed things. I just feel so bloody useless.

LEMmingaround · 04/05/2014 22:14

oh apple, its pants isn't it - i remember getting into a hysterical mess over loading the dishwasher Confused

Bloody bloody bloody depression/anxiety :(

I am still fretting, what sort of freak am i, i have been told i don't have cancer, but now im thinking, what if they missed something........ :(

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Appletini · 04/05/2014 22:15

LEM do you have any idea what might help put your mind at rest?

Bloody depression and anxiety. So sick of feeling overwhelmed and useless.

LEMmingaround · 04/05/2014 22:40

Just time I think apple.

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Appletini · 04/05/2014 22:47

I hope you can find some peace from it very soon.

Victrix · 05/05/2014 11:21

How is everyone this morning?

Apparently I woke DP in the middle of the night by running in place in bed- citalopram is interesting so far Confused

SnowyMouse · 05/05/2014 12:48

I'm tired, Victrix How is everyone?

Appletini · 05/05/2014 18:07

Much better - have managed to clean the house a bit so feel less overwhelmed. How is everyone else?

SnowyMouse · 05/05/2014 20:20

Good Victrix Smile I'm watching calendar girls, it's a good distraction.

Victrix · 05/05/2014 20:44

I have exactly 0 appetite today.

LEMmingaround · 05/05/2014 20:45

Feeling shit - my anxiety is through the roof again, this is because i know DP will be at work tomorrow. I am freaked out by my breast, but have finally accepted that it isn't anything sinister, i just can't stop poking it. I am a 43 year old mother, with a PhD and im scared of being on my own :(

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Victrix · 06/05/2014 09:30

Is there any way I could swap a limb for some sleep?

Feel properly sick with tiredness as well, know I should eat something but can't face it.

gingerroots · 06/05/2014 11:28

Hi
I wondered if anyone had any suggestions of things to try to help at the moment?was going to start a thread but didn't want it to stand out if that makes sense?
I have suffered post natal depression on /off for 6 years, lost my sister to cancer 6 months ago,struggling to juggle work/home life.am increasingly teary/feeling unable to cope/arguing with Dh/struggling with children.i take 20mg citalopram tried 40 but side effects too bad,done a course of cbt & counselling in the past. I am off work today & have a docs appt tomorrow.i was thinking bereavement counselling might help. I just need to do something but not sure what.i just heard about mindfulness on the radio has anyone found this useful.sorry for length of post thanks in advance....

NanaNina · 06/05/2014 12:28

Oh Lem do you think your meds need tweaking, or probably the way you feel is the aftermath of the raised health anxiety lately? Haven't heard you say before that you get anxious about being alone in the house - is this a new thing?

Hi gingeroots Oh lord you have soooo much on your plate at the moment, it's small wonder you are feeling so crap. I lost my closest friend 20 years ago and 6 months after her death I conked out in a severe depression, and the psychiatrist told me that it was classic to get a depressive illness after this length of time, following a death.

When you say you have suffered PND on and off, do you mean going months/years without problems and then a recurrence, or on/off in the sense of some days ok and others not. I have the latter type of intermittent depression. Can I ask how long you have been on citalopram and at a low dose - also how long did you stay on 40mg before giving up because of the side effects. Sorry to fire questions at you but it's just that I've heard so many people on this thread say they needed the 40mg to make any real difference, but the trouble with mental health meds, it's all "hit and miss" isn't it and what suits one person, doesn't suit another.

I think bereavement counselling is a very good idea and I made the huge mistake of not having any after the death of my friend, though have had some in the more recent past which has been helpful. Also why can't you ask the GP to sign you off sick from work for a couple of weeks (don't know what your job is) but I can't see how you can cope with work in your present state - something has to give doesn't it. I think mindfulness is the "flavour of the month" at the moment though I haven't really looked into it. I have been seeing a therapist on the NHS and she loaned me a book on Mindfulness "How to find Peace in a Frantic World" - you can get it on Amazon and there is a CD in the book. Your world sounds very frantic ginger and so it might be helpful. Have you been referred to a psychiatrist - if not, why not ask your GP to refer you - I say this because they are able to add meds to ones you already take and this can bring about an improvement sometimes, whereas GPs don't have that specific knowledge of mental health.

Come back and talk if you want to and don't apologise - this is a very supportive thread and many posters like you are young mothers and trying to juggle so many things. I am a 70 yr old grandmother and obviously retired and when my bad days come, I can't cope with the cats, so I am in awe of how you young mothers cope, but then you have no option do you.

SnowyMouse · 06/05/2014 12:35

(((( all )))) I hope you find some distraction, LEM. Could you take a nap, Victrix? Gosh, you have a lot of stressors, ginger Sad I haven't tried mindfulness, but I know it helps some people, as does bereavement counselling. Hi NN!

LEMmingaround · 06/05/2014 12:40

Nana im doing surprisingly well today. Still v anxious but been to the town and bought a clematis which am about to plant. My friend has mri and ultrasound today. Have promised to do a tip run with her tomorrow. Usually my favours are in return for amazing coffee (she is Italian) but this week I am going to pitch up with chamomile tea - a new find for me. Cutting out caffeine is helping. I am forcing myself busy and actual finding it easier being alone.

Ginger please post here any time. I hope you manage to find some peace.

Love to everyone on this thread xxx sorry still self focused. Bloody black dog!

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SnowyMouse · 06/05/2014 13:16

I'm waiting for my GP to ring me back Hmm