"putting the SPRING back in our step - village support for depression and anxiety"

[LEMmingaround]

Heres the new thread guys. What is this, thread 9?

This is a thread that is situated in a virtual village of support for those suffering from mental health issues, or just those struggling with what life throws at them.

Please feel free to join in.

yes it does seem to be doesn't it? Reassuringly fluoxetine is one of the most researched treatments too... But def something to talk through with GP when I next manage to see her she is booked up weeks ahead these days.

Glad you are sounding better snowy that's good news. SPC hmm this was no Buddhist temple, but an ordinary type house but extended to make room for the room where the classes are held. And please don't kiss my HM - he is despicable and not worthy of any love or kisses!!! He woke this morning but seems to be getting drowsy I hope.

Where is Lem ........???

CIQ yes it's small wonder you are exhausted - I often think your life is so busy and marvel at how you young mothers cope with mental health problems and small children. I salute you!

I've just been reading about the cuts in funding for mental health services (Amelia Gentleman in the Guardian last Sat) Apparently occupancy levels for acute adult psychiatric beds are often running at 100% - there are complaints from staff about the radical and repeated re-structuring that has been going on over the past 2 years and I recall from my working life that re-organisations always meant fewer resources. Gentleman says "it has been obvious for several months that mental health services within the NHS are under huge strain. They were always underfunded - accounting for 28% of the disease burden but receiving just 13% of the NHS budget, but concern about the new cuts has prompted leading mental health charities to warn that lives will be at risk."

A psychologist despairs that there is an 8 month waiting list for this service. CMHT personnel have case loads of 30 - 40 patients.

I put the blame for this right at the door of this tory govt and charities warn "that the cocktail effect of the recession and welfare reform has increased demand for mental health services." I don't usually talk politics on this thread but I really do despair of this uncaring govt who are intent on cutting the budgets of all public services whilst expecting improved services at the same time. Their welfare "reform" programme (in my view) means strenuous attempts to cut the benefits of as many claimants as possible (the private companies ATOS etc have targets to meet) in terms of cutting benefits, be that from people desperate to find a job, the sick and disabled and of course people with mental health problems.

OK rant over.................wonder if you care to comment MPsych

I know exactly how you feel about the treacle CiQ. I would love to take to my bed for a few days, but the DC always kick me out at 7! (Once they're fed up with watching movies on the ipad You are braver than me nn I tried meditation a couple of times and just ended up thinking about things I don't want to think about so I gave it up.

I am ridiculously excited at the moment, MIL has agreed to come and babysit next week so I can go out and have dinner with a friend I will have a whole 10 minute walk to the station by myself, then a 15 minute train trip (and then however long it takes me to find her!) as time all to myself. I can't wait! And it makes up for the evening out I missed the other weekend. And I don't have to worry about getting home by 10. It has at least taken my mind off the meeting with the doctors about DS tomorrow (still don't know if DH is intending to come or not) which I was beginning to panic about. I actually don't know if I can sit in a room with two doctors by myself so I really hope DH comes. I'm really worried I might say something wrong or panic or something.

hope everyone is doing ok.

Hi, thanks for info about leaden paralysis, very interesting. It's not what I have now though I did used to get it when younger. Still knackered and got a semi nocturnal three year old, his sleep was good for a while but he has a cough and awake every two hours. ..
Have taken week off work, feel terrible about it but relived too.
Just went for very short walk, trying to see this as positive, feel knackered and numb and want to be alone all the time.

Leech, hope night out goes well

I'm really worried for a friend. She's actively suicidal, but she's being discharged from services in the next few weeks. I know they have been discharging a lot of people recently due to service changes, but this seems wrong. I'm probably 'better' than she is right now.

FFS, DH has just given DD a plate of nuts to eat, despite the paediatrician telling us to avoid nuts for the foreseeable future. Her face is now all red and blistered.

snowy that seems really crap. Is there anyone you can register your concerns with about her (her doctor or yours or someone)?

Know how you feel with the semi nocturnal children net I let my DS have a nap today and I know I'm going to pay tonight, but he was soooo horrible I couldn't cope with him this morning

Oh Leech I felt guilty when I read your post for having so much time to myself (I'm aged 70...but not quite in my rocking chair yet!) and there you are almost counting the minutes that you will have to yourself. How old are your children? Hope I've remembered something from your back story about a son with some speech problems (?) and an unsupportive DH....is that right, sorry if it isn't. I hope the Drs apt is not as bad as you fear. I think when we are dreading something, it's never as bad as we expected - better to "arrive than travel"

net I so get what you mean about wanting to be by yourself, or at least not have anyone around you (like children) who have needs that you have to attend to. I can't even be bothered with the cats when my crap days come. As I keep saying I feel SO much for you young mums struggling with mental health problems and young children.

Snowy yes that article I mentioned was talking about patients being discharged before they were ready because there were others considered more urgent that needed beds. It's beyond shocking really that this is the state of affairs, especially as the govt promised that mental health would have the same priority as physical health ........yeah right.

I can't, I'm encouraging her to voice it to people, it just seems so wrong that she'll only have GP support when things are as they are. Thanks TUL

No way does mental health have equal importance to physical...we can but hope for changes.

NN I don't think that's confined to mental health though. A few years ago now, my great uncle was woken up being wheeled out of intensive care in the middle of the night, not one spoke to him or anything, just the movement woke him. He said he thought he had died and was watching his body being wheeled out the room. Turns out that someone else needed his place in intensive care, not that he didn't need it, he should have been there, but someone else needed it more urgently than him.

2 & 4

warning brain dump

dsis "can I show you some my favourite wedding dresses I tried on mum"
dm "yes if you like"
(dsis shows pics)
dm "I can't believe you are thinking of those dresses. They distress me to my very core. How much are they?...."

she didn't like my wedding dress either tho wasn't so vocal.

ds has had sore eyes since eyeful of sand 2 weeks ago - what do I do?
dd had bang on head last fri at school, headache since. I looked up headache after bang, she looked over my shoulder and read about dizziness and drowsiness. Left me a note later to say she'd been feeling dizzy and drowsy (what does drowsy mean mummy?) all afternoon at school. This evening she says she's seeing colours. I asked how long have you had that for, she said since Friday. What do I do?

I drove home from dm's this eve with kids in back, dd having this conversation, feeling rubbish from being with dm, not knowing what to do with kids, feeling rubbish from counselling earlier, it took all my self control not to drive at 100mph down the motorway. Got home dd says "mum were you cross on the way home you seemed really grumpy" she can pick up on my emotions and the vibe without me even saying anything. Like I could with my mum. I'm breaking her. I'm breaking. It's so hard, keeping doing this. Why do I still get so side-swiped? Furious for my dsis.

(((hugs))) snowy, tul, nethuns
nana you are completely right about mental health services. It is criminal what is going on.

Hi all.

I'm back.

and I'm losing a fighting battle with my bed.

Still need to do uni essay
house is a shit tip
dtd1 is being v difficult and refusing to eat.
I have a new friend. It's supposed to be fwb. Nsa. But I'm struggling a bit with it. Kind of.
had a job interview yesterday and was disastrous.
Stayed in bed all day today. I wasn't even asleep. I didn't even read. Just laid with my eyes closed for 6hrs (well I did sleep a bit).

I've just lost track of which way is up.

Oh that sounds a lot to have to deal with CiQ. I'd be getting your ds checked out though, just to check there's no infection or anything. Have you really thoroughly rinsed his eyes out.? It's probably scratches that he can still feel. DS got and thrown in his eyes last summer and I had to pin him down to wash it out :( I think for knocks on the head it can start to hurt up to 48 hours after. I would probably call the health helpline to ask what they advise. Is that an option? Can you send your sister a message telling her the dresses were lovely and to ignore your mum?

DH is angry with me because the DC went to bed 45 minutes late. Got nothing to do with him saying I should try and keep them occupied so we can all have dinner together...and he gets home much later than usual on Tuesdays as he goes to a hobby. So we ate...you guessed...45 minutes later than usual. I told him I would do the washing up (we bathed DC etc before tidying up) and he said no he would do it because I wouldn't have finished it in time before he wanted to go to bed (blatantly not true) and that anything I say is just hot air.

He is also annoyed that I asked MIL to babysit next week. He sees no reason why he wouldn't be able to stay up until 11 (so then why was he so angry with me that we were just finishing putting the things away at 9?) and there was no need to ask her. That's just what he said last time I wanted to go out and then changed his mind at the last minute so I had to cancel. It would stress him to much to have to put the DC to bed himself and that would mean he wouldn't sleep and of course he won't forbid me to go out. Because he wants me to be happy. But if I do go then it will show him clearly where my priorities lie and if would be nice to know that he has some support from his wife. He is doing his best to sort out his sleeping problem and he has given up opportunities to go out socially so the least I can do is the same.At least I had a peaceful evening I suppose. He's not talking to me and now the raging insomniac DH is snoring and has been for the past hour or so... I am feeling sarcastic and not very sympathetic, I know.

Sorry, rant over. I hope everyone has a peaceful night.

thanks tul
I took ds to doc last week and with a special eye drop and light she couldn't see any scratches.
Have checked nhs website and I don't think I need to take any further action with dd, and dh agrees, but am now wondering why she is faking symptoms...
I did text my dsis but I have had nothing back from her

I'd stick to your guns re: MIL babysitting so you make sure you can go out and there's no cancelling this time. You are Completely entitled to a night out, the support thing is nonsense, do you go out often (I doubt it) then you are taking One opportunity to go out. I think your feelings of sarcasm and unsympathetic are absolutely spot on and correct for this situation.

hi ed sorry things are tough. (ps what does fwb mean). There is nothing wrong with taking to your bed every now and then. Embrace the rest and feel better for it.

I went out in September and I was late home. We'd agreed 10, but as I left he said if we were still eating the main course it would be ok for me to stay until it was finished. We finished main at 10, I go to check my phone to find 30 mins of increasingly irate where are you, I'm tired messages. Rush home (get home by 1025) and he is not happy that I was later than agreed. Next time I was supposed to go out (friend leaving dinner as she was moving) he completely freaked and I had to last minute cancel. Xmas he didn't want me to go as he would have no one to watch strictly with and there was another I didn't even bother suggesting.

How old is your DD? I there something she is trying to avoid? School/concert/sport.

Good luck with the essay ed

tul stick to your guns and get out this time!

dd is 9. I think she would rather stay at home with me than go to school - she finds it rather stressful. Que me thinking I haven't been a good enough mother.

Sorry I think I may have said this to you before when we were ?both under different names, tul, but do have a look at the Emotional Abuse support thread on Relationships. It helped me get over my depression, right enough

Hello all & ((( hugs to all )))

Thanku to everyone wishing me well previously

It's been a hard few days everything seems to get me down & I've been really quite & kept myself to myself. I think it's the lack of diazepam. So I think I need to call up my cpn & ask for more but I'm too scarred to make the call. The self confidence has completely gone :( also I've been really sleepy like drowsy & have not wanted to get out of bed.

TUL I've been in an abusive relationship & can only speak from my own experience. Things never change they just get worse so get out while u can! It took me a few attempts to leave & come to terms with reality. I must admit it didn't do any favours for my self confidence as I was always sucked back into the relationship.

ed sorry tong earthlings are rocky again... Bed rest is good especially if ur feeling the way u r. Good luck with the essay.

ciq hope both ur DD & DS recover soon. Headache for a few days after a bump sound normal to me. I think children just go through phases of not wanting to go to school so don't blame urself for that. Hope it keeping well aside from all this.

< Waves at others > snowy shimmering lem nana nethuns and all

Hope everyone is having an ok day

Hi, I'm posting here for the first time.

I had a mental breakdown last November and had been feeling better, but today I seem to be having my bimonthly regression.

I keep having distressing intrusive thoughts and urges and "unwell" thoughts. I feel so fragile at the moment and my mood is up and down like a brides nightie. Also I have also I have the shakes and have developed a twitch when I try to relax.

Just in need of a pat on the shoulder and a "there there" really

Welcome back ed, sorry you are going through such a rough time can you take things one small step at a time?

I'm still shaking, feeling sick and have a splitting headache...because I went to the doctors yesterday. DH didn't come :( They are suggesting we hold DS back from starting school (dear god no, I've been counting down the days til he starts

Don't panic, TUL. They only want to help. Yes you will need to clean and tidy, the people who come tend to be Born Organised types. (I need to do similar as the Adult Autism Team are coming to talk through the results of my assessment next week.)

Sorry to have to say this, but could DS' problems be something to do with the state of your relationship?

Would DH be cross at toys in his wardrobe? (Good solution, though! Under beds is good too.)

(((TUL ))) i agree with shimmering don't panic they will be coming to see what help/support they can offer. I use to panic every time SS used to visit but now i know it's only to try & help. Do tidy up though as shimmering said they do tend to be those really organised type!
How are things with u & DH? It can't be helping the situation & is possibly making more on edge & would explain the shaking.

Welcome fuckitall & hugs hope u got through the night ok!

I still haven't made a call to my cpn yet :(