What could be different in mental health care, what helps, and what have you found to be useful reading?

[OwFriggingOw]

First off - this is a thread inspired by another thread - not about another thread.

I am a lecturer who teaches mainly MH nursing students, but also Adult, Child and Learning Disability field nurses about MH, and also occasionally medical students. I have no agenda for this thread bar a genuine desire to listen, share ideas, and have an open discussion about what is helpful / less so. I worked in NHS MH for 13 odd years.

In case anyone links the other threads that inspired this thread - I have been comissioned to edit a book about people's experiences (service users and carers / family / friends) within MH services and with MH issues. NONE OF THE POSTS HERE WILL BE USED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM FOR THIS BOOK. You have my ABSOLUTE word on that. Similarly, NONE of the posts here will be used in any of my teaching.

My aim in starting this stems from several PM's and several on-thread comments about how this would be useful/ I hope it can be a helpful, supportive and productive meeting place for thoughts and ideas about what people have found helpful with regards MH care / services / support (statutory and non statutory) and what has been less helpful. Most importantly with regards the less helpful - what can be done differently?

And - beacuse I like books - maybe we can share reading ideas :)

Would it be helpful if I shared parts of my long thread from earlier regarding what I see as needed, without any other details from the thread?

Me , Maryz ?

oh, I am so sorry, Dolly

Posting ''I'm going to say it Don't feed the troll folks'' did not imply that you felt there was trolling taking place.

My misunderstanding, all mine.

[goes back to reading through the links posted waaaay upthread]

OK, well picking from that suggestion - has anyone still here sued Samaritans, apart from me? They're great. Variable, but even not-so-great Sams are good at listening. And listening is what we all need when things have gone seriously tits-up.

I've often recommended them to posters on Mumsnet. They don't actually do anything, but they give you a whole hour of proper talking about things. Well worth it when you're in a pickle :)

"And aesops, your partner was very disingenuous as in the same thread s/he specifically said s/he had found the thread accidentally by google, so some of your posts haven't been entirely honest hmm."

i have been honest. the only thing i didn't want to do was out her but after talking to mnhq i decided to. that is all.

aesop that would be good . I think lots of posters hoping to talk about mindfulness tonight

used not sued! Eek.

My last post was to aesops.

'i have been honest. the only thing i didn't want to do was out her but after talking to mnhq i decided to. that is all.'

Who contacted who? Did they notice the IP address or did they work it out some other way?

i was gonna say garlic :-o lol
i have. they used to have a local one with a drop in but from what i have read here early on it seems that depends on area or may have even been stopped. they are an amazing service mostly i think

garlic - well ,have known a few people appreciate the listening service of the Samaritans and decide to seek counselling to work through the issues .
It is amazing to have that much time to talk & maybe find some of your next steps or even root causes of distress , as I once did as a teenager

Raisin, what you should have done was validate Dolly's experience that there was a troll about.

Aesop claims validation is a spiffing therapy and everyone should try it. Everyone should receive it and everyone should dispense it.

And I would find the mindfulness discussion very useful. Maybe we need to start another thread about it?

'i have been honest. the only thing i didn't want to do was out her but after talking to mnhq i decided to. that is all.'

Who contacted who? Did they notice the IP address or did they work it out some other way?

i contacted mnhq and told mnhq that my partner was qualified in equalities in regards to a convo with them about harassment and protected characteristics. when she joined i had a convo with her without even knowing it was her which iam still living down. mnhq advised that i did not have to say on thread that she was my partner but any further threads that we were both in then i should say. i choise to say on thread. my choice. i am not dishonest. we both have diff ip addresses- sep houses. feel free to verify this

mary am sorry that you think i am dishonest. i am not but of course that is your choice. suggest if you can be arsed that you get to know me before judging me as such tho, because i am a pretty honest person in rl according to my friends.

Dolly 'Why would you think I was alluding to you math?'

-- are you not going to validate my experience that you were calling me a troll?

Why don't you assume that at this point in my distress (cf Samaritans suggestion) what I need is a little validation.

Are you questioning my reality?

Thankyou for validating my experience Math
You have done this in every post you've made
Especially the ones in the early hours

Aesops:

It seems you and your partner were very careless. Just admit it and I assure you you will feel great once everyone piles in and validates you.

Sorry Maryz, I asked as I thought a question of yours was directed at me - took a while to read back & see it wasn't .

YY, you could go and see the Samaritans while I was at uni, but I hear that's rare (or gone) now. There always used to be a flood of very angry/confused drunks after closing time, so they needed plenty of staff on lates. I suppose it's possible they have insurance worries these days, so maybe had to stop it? Haven't looked this up, just musing.

I do think they fill a gap, somewhat, for MH services who are too stretched to put in good listening time, as well for everybody else who's very miserable.

Math you have succeeded in detailing a support thread
Why aren't you happy? If you personally aren't finding it suportive hide it. That's what the button is for

Dolly :(

nope math. discussed it with mnhq and decided to be open on thread. not careless. i realise that now ow is not here you will be obsessively targetting me but you are wasting your time sorry.

Might be a good idea , Dolly, about the mindfulness

You are most welcome Dolly. I hope the validation makes your day. I hope you go around basking in the glow of how utterly right you are for at least 24 hours.

That is also known as living in an echo chamber, but never mind. Opinions that are different from yours are only expressed in order to goad, after all.