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PND Stigma

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Tryn2hrd · 01/03/2006 13:49

Just wanted to know if anyone finds PND realy difficult to admit to themselves and family. I have only been diagnosed for 2 mths and just told some family which didnt go as well as i hoped. Do you find that people react badly to you when they know you have this? I find myself having to explain its not about the baby because i'm lucky that I bonded its just everything else that makes me upset (including everyone else) I have isolated myself and its taken so much to try and tell people that I have this but noone has offered any help or rang to ask how i'm doing. They make you feel as if you are catching and that you are a bad mum. Does anyone have any tips on how to tell people what i'm going through without actually telling them IYKWM Its so hard to ask for help and its what i really need sometimes. sorry I'm a bit low today just tryn to come to grips with this all and figure out what the hell is going on.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/03/2006 00:14

expat you should chat to my partner - he would really wind you up.

I am very lucky in that he is a wonderful man but he just does not get depression.

He comes out with golden nuggets like :
"WEll lets make a list of all the things you have to do and then tick them off as you do the and then you won't be stressed"

"Depressed is a state of mind"

"if you think positive it will all go away"

"you just need to think what is upsetting me , what can I do to solve it"

He really does wnat to try and understnad, he has been to the doctor with me who has spoken to him and has done some of his own research but he just doesn't get it.

twinsetandpearls · 02/03/2006 00:16

But he does have his lovely moments, we were sat on the sofa last night and his eyes were a bit watery so I asked what was wrong and he said

"I was just thinking how proud I am of you"

mistressmiggins · 02/03/2006 20:36

expat - what I meant was, I wish I could tell people to just deal with it
my husband at the time told me I was "wallowing in self pity since dr said you had PND"
my parents pretended to understand but didnt

it is hard but you know what got me through it?
knowing lots of other women had similar experiences and I only realised that through MN

if you've never been depressed, you just dont get it

expatinscotland · 02/03/2006 20:37

so true, MM.

fransmom · 02/03/2006 23:09

it's hard for me to admit pnd, Sad i keep thinking people will take my little girl from me i'm sorry i just nedd someone to talk to.dfiance tries but i not sure he really understands

expatinscotland · 02/03/2006 23:11

you're in the right place. i was so afraid someone would take my little girl from me. and i loved her so very much. i risked everything for just the chance of her. i left behind my life as i knew it - my family, my friends, my country. just for the chance.

PND felt like a cruel slap in the face.

fransmom · 02/03/2006 23:15

it does feel like that doesn't it? i'm not from where i live now and it just feels so isolating esp when i was on mat leave, hardly anybody down here to talk2.Sad glad i found mn, i sometimes tell ladies whjo go through till, i work in supermkt, about mn. i not having very good day, sounds like you not either ((((hugs))))))) expat. now i understand your name x

expatinscotland · 02/03/2006 23:36

cheers, fran. it's better now. dh has taken dd2 a wee drive. it's clangin' out there tonight, too. about one below.

fransmom · 05/03/2006 21:09

that's ok bab Smile you not from midlands by any chance are you?! i haven't heard that word for ages!! Grin

fransmom · 07/03/2006 16:10

how are you today? Smile

PiccadillyCircus · 07/03/2006 16:17

The only person who knows about my depression is DH. My parents don't know, neither do his. I don't want to tell my mum as I suspects she suffers from undiagnosed depression and I'm not sure hearing about me would make her feel any better.

saltire · 10/03/2006 17:48

When i had Ds2, who is now 6, i was diagnosed with PND just three days after he was born. I couldn't touch him, i was terrified of him, i cried constantly, if i shut my eyes then i saw dark shapes coming to take the baby away and believe me i disliked him so much i would have let them take him away. I couldn't sleep, couldn't eat and the effort to get showered and dressed was unreal. My Dh was fantastic - i credit him with me being here today. My mum was with us at the time, but didn't really understand. She went after two weeks with the parting words
"your dh will need to go back to work at some point you know". My MIL didn't know until about 3 years ago when she was going through the menopause and was very depressed. However she took it upon herself to inform her whole family, who came out with remarks like
"Well, she always did seem a bit weird"
I saw a consultant psychiatrist and a CPN weekly for a year, and was on ADs for longer. A lot of the time i spent with the CPN was spent talking about other issues which i had let boil away inside me as well for years. She really did help, and never once said to me to have "positive mental attitude"
Not very many other people know how bad i was, simply because of their reactions. I lived in MQ'S in the south of England, and hardly knew anyone, then i got really friendly with another Scottish girl who had depression. It sounds strange, but we really helped each other, we got each other out of the house, and making adult conversation. My life long friends though, the ones i have known for over twenty years were unbelievable when i told them i had PND, at the time only 2 had kids, one of them was, and still is the best friend anyone could wish for, but they have all admitted to me at seperate times that they didn't know what to do, or how to deal with how i was feeling, although even a phone call to say
"Hi, i know you're having a bad time but can i help" would have done.
I have moved back to Scotland now, and have made some other friends and many of them know i had PND, and are great. I still have moments - a week here, a month there, where i cry for no reason at all, or feel as though my world is crashing in around me. I put on this brave face though during those moments.
My Dh is away for four months, he's been away three weeks, and i was at the doctor today asking for AD's becasue i'm having a bad time again.
There is a tendency in this country to stigmatise mental illness of any kind, and as others on here have pointed out, people expect you to be full of happiness becasue you have had a child. I sometimes wonder if perhaps more celebrites came out and said
"Yes i had PND, I'm not ashamed, don't judge people who had it", then it may make some people aware of it, and make some women get the help they need.
I would never judge smeone who admitted to me that they had PND, i would offer as much help as i could, if they admitted it of course.

I have just realised how long this is and I'm sorry, its the first time i have said so much about my PND!

fransmom · 13/03/2006 22:56

how are you expat? not heard of you for a while. hope you ok Smile

expatinscotland · 13/03/2006 23:01

i've been around. doing better! thanks! ah, Lustral Wink.

fransmom · 13/03/2006 23:06

?lustral

expatinscotland · 13/03/2006 23:12

an anti-depressant.

fransmom · 13/03/2006 23:34

ah. is it working for you?

expatinscotland · 13/03/2006 23:39

now it is :)

VeniVidiVickiQV · 13/03/2006 23:41

I believe thats what im on Wink

colditz · 13/03/2006 23:52

People's igorance about Pnd can be summed up when they say "But he's such a good baby!"

Yes, I know, but I still want to hang myself! And knowing he is a good baby, and that stupider people than me are coping with screamier babies than him, makes me feel worse, actually.

I had PND with ds, and sadly can feel it steaming in for round two with this baby. It's like a foregone conclusion. My Gp has put me on Fluoxetine now, so hoping it won't come back, or not too badly.

fransmom · 14/03/2006 15:12

it doesn't matter if they're good or not, nobody ever asks how you are, it's always how's the baby? another one that gets me is who looks after the baby when you're at work? none of your business! Angry felt really low the other night and went to dp for hug but he just told me (though not in as same words) pull your socks up!

to colditz, a few of my friends were on fluoxetine and they said it was pretty good for them, so hopefully it will suit you better than the other one you tried Smile ((((hugs))))

plus (((((((hugs))))))) for everyone feeling low today X

jabberwocky · 14/03/2006 15:17

I didn't want to tell people at first, but then I got so angry that no one talks about it and that I might have gotten help sooner if someone had, that I started being quite, quite open with people. At first I think it was shocking for them, but then many women said, I wish I had talked to someone when I had it, etc.

fransmom · 14/03/2006 15:22

i didn't want to tell any1 either, it's hard to open up to people isn't it? perhaps it seems easier on here because you're anonymous (it took ages to spell that!Grin.

there was a thread somewhere about st.john's wort, not sure if any1 tried that or not. it's sposed to be quite good if you remember to take it Blush tho you can't really take it if you on pill

jabberwocky · 14/03/2006 15:35

omega 3's seemed to help me, but I am also still on AD's.

Mummyvicky · 14/03/2006 16:00

Hi Tryn2hrd,
I suffered with severe PND after having my daughter (2nd child) I wanted to die every day and really thought that everyone would be better off without me. I felt so ashamed for 3 months no one but DH and my GP knew. When we felt we HAD to explain to family MILs reaction was "cheer up and it will go" this had me fuming and just added to the problem. Friends were fantastic, and didn't get fed up with me not phoning them or going to playgroup etc.
It lasted a year and Im absolutely great now with a 3rd child. So this is just to tell you that you will get through it, and you will be happy again. Hard to believe but it's true.My advice is to "ride the storm" and it will go,so take care of yourself (hugs) :)
MV xx